What is Kobe's legacy if he beats Miami's big 3 in the finals?

If we are using hypotheticals here...I will say this...

IF Kobe plays like MJ did from ages 32 to 34, then I think he would have a case as the GOAT. That's a BIG IF...but just saying...

[QUOTE=jlauber]If we are using hypotheticals here...I will say this...

IF Kobe plays like MJ did from ages 32 to 34, then I think he would have a case as the GOAT. That's a BIG IF...but just saying...[/QUOTE]

Seriously attainable. It looked like he was on his way to his best year ppg wise since 2006-07 until the injuries started adding up last season. People could use this as proof of him beginning to break, especially the knees. The finger was a freak occurence like his pinky in my view, and rolling an already tender ankle helped absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]good...stay fcuking out of the Kobe & Laker related threads....[/QUOTE]
Who are you?

When have you made a post that I have ever read?

Exactly.

Dont quote me anymore.

[QUOTE=jlauber]If we are using hypotheticals here...I will say this...

IF Kobe plays like MJ did from ages 32 to 34, then I think he would have a case as the GOAT. That's a BIG IF...but just saying...[/QUOTE]
We've already seen Kobe at his best. And he never measured up. LeBron's the only hope left.

[QUOTE=ginobli2311]gasol was the best player in that series in my opinion.[/QUOTE]


I think Kobe may have thought this too. In his post-game interview, the interviewer was asking about his finals MVP, and Kobe commented about how he couldn't hit water from a boat or something, and then mentioned specifically "the Spaniard" as being instrumental in the series. I got the sense that Kobe thought Pau should of won the series MVP.

[QUOTE=gilalizard]I think Kobe may have thought this too. In his post-game interview, the interviewer was asking about his finals MVP, and Kobe commented about how he couldn't hit water from a boat or something, and then mentioned specifically "the Spaniard" as being instrumental in the series. I got the sense that Kobe thought Pau should of won the series MVP.[/QUOTE]

If Gasol had shown up on the road and averaged a convincing 20-24 ppg to go with his rebounds I think you're talking serious case. However, heading back to Los Angeles for Game 6, Kobe was sporting a 30.2 ppg average. His 26/11 and 23/15 in the final two games combined with the fact Gasol never did hit 20 ppg for the series while shooting 48% himself (on shots much close to the rim) including 6-16 in Game 7 despite the same FGA as the regular season just isn't enough to take it from Bryant: 29/8/4? Jordan's had a lesser Finals than that shooting the same percentage and nobody questions it. It's just simply because its Kobe, really. People were even saying this in 2009 when he put up 32/5/7.

It's silly.

Pretty funny to see the Kobe haters talking about Gasol winning MVP considering how awful he was, especially on the road. What idiots. Hell, through 6 games many people were saying that Kobe should get MVP regardless if the Lakers win.

[QUOTE=mayo'sgrizz]Originally Posted by ginobli2311
i'll bite:

1. jordan
2. russell
3. magic
4. kareem
5. wilt
6. duncan
7. shaq
8. bird
9. hakeem
10. kobe


lol top 10.................stupidest shit ive ever heard. the **** else does this guy hav to do like holy shittt. he does it all and has his whole career. hes played with better competition yr in and out led and carried his team in good times and bad. knows more bout basketball than any player in nba history as phil jackson put it even jordan. like wtfff all yall tht do NOT hav him in top 3 are seriously dumb as sheeeeittt. wow ill rank those top 10 u hav for ya tho bud. jesus.....SMH
1 jordan (for now)
2 kobe
3 magic
4 kareem
5 bird
6 russell
7 shaq
8 hakeem
9 duncan
10 wilt[/QUOTE]

This might be the worst top ten I have ever seen.

Kobe above Kareem, Russell, Wilt is retarded. Wilt at 10 is sheer stupidity. :facepalm

[QUOTE=jlauber]I agree. He MAY very well surpass Magic, Shaq and Kareem, but I just don't see his case as this point. If he were to retire tomorrow, would his career still be considered better than several of those folks on that list?[/QUOTE]

I don't even see him passing Kareem. Even if he accomplishes more than Kareem, Kareem, for the majority of his career was simply a better player than Kobe ever was, unless Kobe somehow ups his level of play by 15-20% these last few seasons and brings home a couple more rings.

[QUOTE=jlauber]If we are using hypotheticals here...I will say this...

IF Kobe plays like MJ did from ages 32 to 34, then I think he would have a case as the GOAT. That's a BIG IF...but just saying...[/QUOTE]

He hasn't been able to reach that level of play yet, and he's already past his prime.

And honestly, he needs to exceed MJ's peak if he wants to be ahead of him, which like you said is a big if.

[QUOTE=Jacks3]Pretty funny to see the Kobe haters talking about Gasol winning MVP considering how awful he was, especially on the road. What idiots. Hell, through 6 games many people were saying that Kobe should get MVP regardless if the Lakers win.[/QUOTE]

Watching the games for some reason made me think Gasol deserved the MVP. However going back and watching the games without all the excitement and then looking at the stats, it's pretty clear Kobe did in fact deserve that finals mvp, and it wasn't even that close.

[QUOTE=All Net]I think most would agree Kobe is in that 9-10 range at the moment. Would beating Lebron and Wade in the finals jump him up to maybe the top 5 if he manages to beat these two superstars while winning his 6th championship and winning his 3rd finals MVP along with completing a Lakers 3-peat. A lot are expecting L.A to beat Miami due to the size factor but does Kobe leading Lakers to another 3-peat jump him even higher?[/QUOTE]


Its going down

Top 5

[QUOTE=Heavincent]Top 5[/QUOTE]

I say 6!

Perfect icing on the cake, to retire on top