ISH All-time Top 25 Guards Project: #2 Kobe Bryant vs Magic Johnson.

[QUOTE=eliteballer]:oldlol: Your delusional.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=eliteballer]:oldlol: Your delusional.[/QUOTE]

Yes, the "your" pretty much says it all. :facepalm

Michael never lost a series with home court and won 2 titles without it. Not to mention he's 6-0 when making the Finals. But Magic is clearly superior to him. :facepalm

[QUOTE=D.J.]Michael never lost a series with home court and won 2 titles without it. Not to mention he's 6-0 when making the Finals. But Magic is clearly superior to him. :facepalm[/QUOTE]


and Magic never led his team to 5 Losing seasons....

5 outta 9 Finals with 12 Winning seasons> 6 outta 6 Finals with 5 Losing seasons...



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Suppose I need to count all this up and make the final one....

No clue what is after that. I assume GOAT is still around and not posting for some reason. Guess ill wait for him to do the forward one.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]and Magic never led his team to 5 Losing seasons....

5 outta 9 Finals with 12 Winning seasons> 6 outta 6 Finals with 5 Losing seasons...



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And Magic wasn't putting up 23/6/5 at 39 and 20/6/4 at 40 and taking a garbage Wizards team to a near .500 record. Next.

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]and Magic never led his team to 5 Losing seasons....

5 outta 9 Finals with 12 Winning seasons> 6 outta 6 Finals with 5 Losing seasons...



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The only seasons where MJ failed to make the playoffs was when he was with the Wizards. So yeah lets penalize a guy who shouldn't even have been playing at the time. I am assuming your definition of losing is under .500? I don't know why it matters if you make the playoffs though.

Everyone vote for kobe so we can have a jordan vs kobe debate in the next round! :oldlol:

No, seriously though, anyone who thinks kobe was/is a better player than earvin 'magic' johnson needs to get their head examined. :hammerhead:

Kobe might be more 'skilled' (whatever that means) but magic is the greatest playmaker the nba has ever seen. No one in history has raised his teammates level of play to the extent magic did for 12 straight years.

Magic was a also a much better leader and teammate (kobe has improved in this regard in the last 3 1/2 yrs), better in the clutch (yes that's right), a better rebounder and could play all 5 positions. He is the greatest laker of all time.

Kobe is great, but not that great.

[QUOTE=D.J.]And Magic wasn't putting up 23/6/5 at 39 and 20/6/4 at 40 and taking a garbage Wizards team to a near .500 record. Next.[/QUOTE]


and Magic still didn't have 3 Losing seasons .....

Magic was by far a better winner and leader then Jordan....don't even say he wasn't.... you would sound stupid




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[QUOTE=oolalaa]Everyone vote for kobe so we can have a jordan vs kobe debate in the next round! :oldlol:

No, seriously though, anyone who thinks kobe was/is a better player than earvin 'magic' johnson needs to get their head examined. :hammerhead:

Kobe might be more 'skilled' (whatever that means) but magic is the greatest playmaker the nba has ever seen. No one in history has raised his teammates level of play to the extent magic did for 12 straight years.

Magic was a also a much better leader and teammate (kobe has improved in this regard in the last 3 1/2 yrs), better in the clutch (yes that's right), a better rebounder and could play all 5 positions. He is the greatest laker of all time.

Kobe is great, but not that great.[/QUOTE]


So Magic Johnson and Jerry West need their head examined then???


and all those reasons that you listed Magic as bieng better then Kobe....should defintely put him on the #1 spot then...right?

Magic Johnson is my vote.

Kobe Bryant better than Magic Johnson is a joke.

Magic Johnson

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Whilst I agree that Magic ranks over Kobe, those declaring it to be "a joke" to have Kobe near him either don't watch the game with any degree of objectivity, or don't watch the game, period.

[QUOTE=JordanTime]Magic Johnson is my vote.

Kobe Bryant better than Magic Johnson is a joke.

Magic Johnson

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yeah it's magic. not even that close

stats, awards, and championships aside, it basically come down to who would you rather have leading your team: magic or kobe

and is anyone honestly going to pick kobe?

on the jordan comparison....i mean, magic's been my favorite player since i was 9 years old, but you can't argue that he's better than mike. even if jordan didn't have more rings it'd be a nearly impossible argument

i do, however, think the 80's lakers were a better team than the 90's bulls. come at me bro

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Kobe's should move past Magic.....he already has in the real world.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm... in what way? Most "Greatest All Time" lists I've seen have Magic over Bryant, and even that is completely subjective. Under what criteria?
I think that perhaps when all's said and done, Kobe will probably rank above Magic - but I'm not sure that that's "now". It's very close tho'.