[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]Smh at the young-uns who think that the '12 team wouldn't get slaughtered.[/QUOTE]
I'm 30 and I don't see how the 2012 team would get "slaughtered". Like where do you see that many advantages that they would get "slaughtered"?
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[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]Smh at the young-uns who think that the '12 team wouldn't get slaughtered.[/QUOTE]
I'm 30 and I don't see how the 2012 team would get "slaughtered". Like where do you see that many advantages that they would get "slaughtered"?
[QUOTE=Indian guy]Huh? Olajuwon wasn't a US citizen yet, and neither Isiah nor 'Nique were better than the players chosen over them by '92.[/QUOTE]
You're right about Hakeem. But it seems like some people are making this more of an argument about era vs. era though, so I thought I'd mention it. If thats not the argument, then people should just stick to what the teams actually were.
They were both clearly better then Laettner. Nique was probably better then Bird in the state he was in. Magic had not played in over a year. And I forgot to mention what it would've been like if they put in Shaq over Laettner.
You guys all know this argument can never ever be proven right?
There is no time machine invented just yet.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]No no no. He's saying Kobe is stupid for thinking it and just because Michael Jordan says there's no comparison then he's right. I asked him why would he listen to Michael Jordan's evaluation of talent based on the players he passed up and the players he actually drafted. Follow me?[/QUOTE]
I guess you really are an idiot because this response has no relevance to your original post.
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Mr Exlax
I'm on the phone with my cousin right now trying to argue this freaking point to him! They're professional athletes! [B]What is he supposed to freaking say[/B]!!!!!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DirtySanchez]You guys all know this argument can never ever be proven right?
There is no time machine invented just yet.[/QUOTE]
It's just so much fun to try to force your will and way of thinking on someone else. The cool thing about ISH is that everybody's so immature so if they disagree with you then you can just call them names or put up those stupid little faces lol.
[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Kobe=MJ
Lebron>Barkley
Magic>Westbrook
Durant>Pippen
Robinson>Tyson
(anyone bringing up Bird never watched the olympics....dude was hurt and was barely able to play more then 10 minutes per)
12' Bench>92'
Drexler was basically a worse version of Danny Granger and wouldn't even make the squad in modern times....Ewing didn't even have more moves the Yao Ming...
12' is the better overall squad.[/QUOTE]
Wtf? Alphawolf you get god damn stupider and stupider every single day. Kobe=Jordan? How the hell does Kobe at 33 coming off his 16 season with all those games played, various injuries built up = a 29 year old Jordan coming off his 8th season. Kobe isn't even as good as a 97 when he was 33 or a 98 Jordan when he was 34 right now, yet somehow in your stupid god damn brain they equal eachother out?
Also, I may have always felt Drexler was overrated but to call him a worse version of Danny Granger? WTF!? The Dream Team absolutely destroys the 2012 team as far as defense goes at that. And why are people even talking about athleticism? Jordan, Drexler, Pippen, Barkley, and Robinson are some of the most athletic players EVER at their respective positions.
[QUOTE=tontoz]I guess you really are an idiot because this response has no relevance to your original post.[/QUOTE]
I'll be that because I didn't understand what point you were trying to make when you quoted me the first time. My cousin doesn't think I'm an idiot, but he does think I'm mistaken for thinking that Kobe said the right thing.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]I'm 30 and I don't see how the 2012 team would get "slaughtered". Like where do you see that many advantages that they would get "slaughtered"?[/QUOTE]
LOL
DRob/Ewing against Chandler and who?
Malone/Barkley against Bosh and ?
Total mismatches
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]I'll be that because I didn't understand what point you were trying to make when you quoted me the first time. My cousin doesn't think I'm an idiot, but he does think I'm mistaken for thinking that Kobe said the right thing.[/QUOTE]
Did you even read your original post?
You said what is Kobe supposed to say to that question? The answer is to simply say i don't know. It isn't complex.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]It's just so much fun to try to force your will and way of thinking on someone else. The cool thing about ISH is that everybody's so immature so if they disagree with you then you can just call them names or put up those stupid little faces lol.[/QUOTE]
Ha true...
I just love how everybody acts like their opinions are fact.
My opinion on this...I have no clue who would win. I am a product of the 80's and 90's so of course I'm bias to those guys. But to say our current team would have no chance is just nonsense.
[QUOTE=tontoz]LOL
DRob/Ewing against Chandler and who?
Malone/Barkley against Bosh and ?
Total mismatches[/QUOTE]
I don't know if DRob & Ewing are just gonna score with the greatest of ease against Chandler. Chandler won't get shut down by them because most of his points are gonna come from the rebounds and dump off passes for easy dunks anyway.
Malone and Barkley both are gonna buttrape Bosh on offense, but how are they going to stop him on defense? They're both too short and slower than him.
So that's enough to slaughter them? Who's gonna stop Lebron? Pippen? Pippen is weaker, shorter, lighter, slower than Lebron. Jordan will eat Kobe because it's the old Kobe, it's a toss up at the PG position to me. I'll give it to 2012 because the players are bigger, stronger and faster. Oh and they have DWill.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]I'm 30 and I don't see how the 2012 team would get "slaughtered". Like where do you see that many advantages that they would get "slaughtered"?[/QUOTE]
Its embarrassing to actually have to discuss this. Just look at the frontcourts and that should give you all the answers you need.
There isn't a single area where the '12 team is vastly superior than the '92 team, but plenty going the other way.
Sorry, but MJ is right, there is no comparison.
As a backdrop, I've recently wanted several of the '08 team's games, and all eight of the Dream Team games. When the '92 team got revved up, they would slaughter any team in the history of the game.
its just that simple.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]I'm 30 and I don't see how the 2012 team would get "slaughtered". Like where do you see that many advantages that they would get "slaughtered"?[/QUOTE]
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Basketball is still a big man's game, it's become smaller because of the dearth in the C position in today's NBA but back then the 92 team had prime Robinson and Ewing, who you gonna put on them?LBJ or KLove:oldlol:
The low post scoring game is also becoming a lost art and the 92 team has some of the greatest low post players ever, those tend to be easy buckets.
12 team has horses who can get out there but let's not pretend MJ, Pip, Clyde and the Admiral couldn't run. The '92 team's FC is their advantage and it's big one.
Some good debates on here, but really... 1996 Team should be talked about more vs 1992 Team.
I don't think this team is better than the 2008 Redeem Team either.
There's a lot overrating and underrating on both sides as well.
[QUOTE]Yeah because Jordan isn't probably the [B]single most overrated player of All-Time.[/B][/QUOTE]
Karl Malone says hi.
[QUOTE]You're the only one who watched this video and actually understood Kobe's comments. He was asked a question, and everybody's making it seem like he came out of the blue dissing the dream team. Is it a bad thing to say that they'd have a CHANCE to win?[/QUOTE]
I think it's because he answered some of those questions wrong about the dream team. The age and athletic ability, etc... It's cool, I'm assuming Kobe didn't google search all that data, considering most real NBA players don't have time for that stuff.
[QUOTE]Am I the only one who believes that the Redeem Team > 12' Team? The comparison should be Redeem Team vs Dream Team.[/QUOTE]
Right on.
But really, it should also be vs the 96 Team.
96 Team vs 08 Redeem Team and 96 Team vs 12 Team ? Who you got in 7 ?
[QUOTE]Smh at the young-uns who think that the '12 team wouldn't get slaughtered.[/QUOTE]
It would certinally be competitive. It would at least go 6 games in a 7 game series.
[QUOTE]Huh? Olajuwon wasn't a US citizen yet, and neither Isiah nor 'Nique were better than the players chosen over them by '92.[/QUOTE]
I can understand Zeke because there was a lot of hate on him from the other players, but you can argue Wilkins over Mullin, yes ? And hell, over Bird's bad back, but I can see the reason why they took Bird over him.
[QUOTE]DRob/Ewing against Chandler and who?
Malone/Barkley against Bosh and ?
Total mismatches[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but I also think they would be mismatches from the guard and SF play too.
Ultimately, Dream Team wins, but I don't it would be THAT much of a beating.
I just don't see them getting "slaughtered". I see the frontcourt domination, but you guys are talking like Chandler isn't a defensive force. Remember, they don't need him to score. JUST PLAY DEFENSE. He's gonna go balls to the wall strictly on defense.