Damn 206 replies to this crap, I guess he really offended some of you eh. J/p :lol:
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Damn 206 replies to this crap, I guess he really offended some of you eh. J/p :lol:
I don't like intolerant bigots.
[QUOTE=raiderfan19]comparing homosexuality with skin color is just moronic. There is nothing wrong or unnatural about being any skin color. It is unnatural and wrong to be gay. I dont hate homosexuals nor do i think anyone should but this comparison is more foolish than tims statements.[/QUOTE]
you my good sir/ma'am are an idiot. how can you say it is unnatural and wrong to be gay? most of the people that "choose" to be gay are 16 year old girls trying to impress little boys. crawl out from under your rock and understand that people do not choose to be homosexual no more than people choose to have asthma. please educate yourself and your family members.
[QUOTE=boozehound]List of animals displaying homosexual behavior
Mammals
* African Buffalo
* African Elephant
* Agile Wallaby
* Amazon River Dolphin (Boto)
* American Bison
* Aperea
* Asian Elephant
* Asiatic Mouflon
* Atlantic Spotted Dolphin
* Australian Sea Lion
* Barasingha
* Barbary Sheep
* Beluga
* Bharal
* Bighorn Sheep
* Black Bear
* Blackbuck
* Black-footed Rock Wallaby
* Black-tailed Deer
* Bonnet Macaque
* Bonobo
* Bottlenose Dolphin
* Bowhead Whale
* Bridled Dolphin
* Brown Bear
* Brown Capuchin
* Brown Long-eared Bat
* Brown Rat
* Caribou
* Cat (domestic)
* Cattle (domestic)
* Cheetah
* Collared Peccary
* Commerson's Dolphin
* Common Brushtail Possum
* Common Chimpanzee
* Common Dolphin
* Common Marmoset
* Common Pipistrelle
* Common Raccoon
* Common Tree Shrew
* Cotton-top Tamarin
* Crab-eating Macaque
* Crested Black Macaque
* Cui
* Dall's Sheep
* Daubenton's Bat
* Dog (domestic)
* Doria's Tree Kangaroo
* Dugong
* Dwarf Cavy
* Dwarf Mongoose
* Eastern Cottontail Rabbit
* Eastern Gray Kangaroo
* Elk
* Euro (a subspecies of wallaroo)
* European Bison
* Fallow Deer
* False Killer Whale
* Fat-tailed Dunnart
* Fin Whale
* Fox
* Gelada Baboon
* Giraffe
* Goat (Domestic)
* Golden Monkey
* Gorilla
* Grant's Gazelle
* Gray-headed Flying Fox
* Gray Seal
* Gray Squirrel
* Gray Whale
* Gray Wolf
* Grizzly Bear
* Guinea Pig (Domestic)
* Hamadryas Baboon
* Hamster (Domestic)
* Hanuman Langur
* Harbor Porpoise
* Harbor Seal
* Himalayan Tahr
* Hoary Marmot
* Horse (domestic)
* Human
* Indian Fruit Bat
* Indian Muntjac
* Indian Rhinoceros
* Japanese Macaque
* Javelina
* Kangaroo Rat
* Killer Whale
* Koala
* Kob
* Larga Seal
* Least Chipmunk
* Lechwe
* Lesser Bushbaby
* Lion
* Lion-tailed Macaque
* Lion Tamarin
* Little Brown Bat
* Livingstone's Fruit Bat
* Long-eared Hedgehog
* Long-footed Tree Shrew
* Markhor
* Marten
* Matschie's Tree Kangaroo
* Mohol Galago
* Moor Macaque
* Moose
* Mountain Goat
* Mountain Tree Shrew
* Mountain Zebra
* Mouse (domestic)
* Moustached Tamarin
* Mule Deer
* Musk-ox
* Natterer's Bat
* New Zealand Sea Lion
* Nilgiri Langur
* Noctule
* North American Porcupine
* Northern Elephant Seal
* Northern Fur Seal
* Northern Quoll
* Olympic Marmot
* Orangutan
* Orca
* Pacific Striped Dolphin
* Patas Monkey
* Pere David's Deer
* Pig (Domestic)
* Pig-tailed Macaque
* Plains Zebra
* Polar Bear
* Pretty-faced Wallaby
* Proboscis Monkey
* Pronghorn
* Przewalski's Horse
* Puku
* Quokka
* Rabbit
* Raccoon Dog
* Red Deer
* Red Fox
* Red Kangaroo
* Red-necked Wallaby
* Red Squirrel
* Reeves's Muntjac
* Reindeer
* Rhesus Macaque
* Right Whale
* Rock Cavy
* Rodrigues Fruit Bat
* Roe Deer
* Rufous Bettong
* Rufous-naped Tamarin
* Rufous Rat Kangaroo
* Saddle-back Tamarin
* Savanna Baboon
* Sea Otter
* Serotine Bat
* Sheep (Domestic)
* Siamang
* Sika Deer
* Slender Tree Shrew
* Sooty Mangabey
* Sperm Whale
* Spinifex Hopping Mouse
* Spinner Dolphin
* Spotted Hyena
* Spotted Seal
* Squirrel Monkey
* Striped Dolphin
* Stuart's Marsupial Mouse
* Stumptail Macaque
* Swamp Deer
* Swamp Wallaby
* Takhi
* Talapoin
* Tammar Wallaby
* Tasmanian Devil
* Tasmanian Rat Kangaroo
* Thinhorn Sheep
* Thomson's Gazelle
* Tiger
* Tonkean Macaque
* Tucuxi
* Urial
* Vampire Bat
* Verreaux's Sifaka
* Vervet
* Vicuna
* Walrus
* Wapiti
* Warthog
* Waterbuck
* Water Buffalo
* Weeper Capuchin
* Western Gray Kangaroo
* West Indian Manatee
* Whiptail Wallaby
* White-faced Capuchin
* White-fronted Capuchin
* White-handed Gibbon
* White-lipped Peccary
* White-tailed Deer
* Wild Cavy
* Wild Goat
* Wisent
* Yello-footed Rock Wallaby
* Yellow-toothed Cavy
[edit] Birds
* Acorn Woodpecker
* Adelie Penguin
* Anna's Hummingbird
* Australian Shelduck
* Aztec Parakeet
* Bangalese Finch (Domestic)
* Bank Swallow
* Barn Owl
* Bicolored Antbird
* Black-billed Magpie
* Black-crowned Night Heron
* Black-headed Gull
* Black-rumped Flameback
* Black Stilt
* Black Swan
* Black-winged Stilt
* Blue-backed Manakin
* Blue-bellied Roller
* Blue Tit
* Blue-winged Teal
* Brown-headed Cowbird
* Budgerigar (Domestic)
* Buff-breasted Sandpiper
* Calfbird
* California Gull
* Canada Goose
* Canary-winged Parakeet
* Caspian Tern
* Cattle Egret
* Chaffinch
* Chicken (Domestic)
* Chiloe Wigeon
* Cliff Swallow
* Common Gull
* Common Murre
* Common Shelduck
* Crane spp.
* Dusky Moorhen
* Eastern Bluebird
* Egyptian Goose
* Elegant Parrot
* Emu
* European Jay
* European Shag
* Flamingo
* Galah
* Gentoo Penguin
* Golden Bishop Bird
* Golden Plover
* Gray-breasted Jay
* Gray-capped Social Weaver
* Gray Heron
* Grayling
* Great Cormorant
* Greater Bird of Paradise
* Greater Rhea
* Green Sandpiper
* Greenshank
* Greylag Goose
* Griffon Vulture
* Guianan ****-of-the-Rock
* Guillemot
* Herring Gull
* Hoary-headed Grebe
* Hooded Warbler
* House Sparrow
* Humboldt Penguin
* Ivory Gull
* Jackdaw
* Kestrel
* King Penguin
* Kittiwake
* Laughing Gull
* Laysan Albatross
* Least Darter
* Lesser Flamingo
* Lesser Scaup Duck
* Little Blue Heron
* Little Egret
* Long-tailed Hermit Hummingbird
* Mallard
* Masked Lovebird
* Mealy Amazon Parrot
* Mew Gull
* Mexican Jay
* Musk Duck
* Mute Swan
* Ocellated Antbird
* Ocher-bellied Flycatcher
* Orange Bishop Bird
* Orange-footed Parakeet
* Ornate Lorikeet
* Ostrich
* Oystercatcher
* Peach-faced Lovebird
* Pied Flycatcher
* Pied Kingfisher
* Pigeon (Domestic)
* Powerful Owl
* Purple Swamphen
* Raggiana's Bird of Paradise
* Raven
* Razorbill
* Red-backed Shrike
* Red Bishop Bird
* Red-faced Lovebird
* Redshank
* Red-shouldered Widowbird
* Regent Bowerbird
* Ring-billed Gull
* Ring Dove
* Rock Dove
* Roseate Cockatoo
* Roseate Tern
* Rose-ringed Parakeet
* Ruff
* Ruffed Grouse
* Sage Grouse
* San Blas Jay
* Sand Martin
* Satin Bowerbird
* Scarlet Ibis
* Scottish Crossbill
* Senegal Parrot
* Sharp-tailed Sparrow
* Silver Gull
* Silvery Grebe
* Snow Goose
* Steller's Sea Eagle
* Superb Lyrebird
* Swallow-tailed Manakin
* Tasmanian Native Hen
* Tree Swallow
* Trumpeter Swan
* Turkey (Domestic)
* Victoria's Riflebird
* Wattled Starling
* Western Gull
* White-fronted Amazon Parrot
* White Stork
* Wood Duck
* Yellow-backed (Chattering) Lorikeet
* Yellow-rumped Cacique
* Zebra Finch (Domestic)
[edit] Fish
* Amazon molly
* Blackstripe Topminnow
* Bluegill Sunfish
* Char
* European Bitterling
* Green swordtail
* Guiana leaffish
* Hammerhead
* Houting Whitefish
* Jewel Fish
* Mouthbreeding Fish sp.
* Salmon spp.
* Southern platyfish
* Ten-spined stickleback
* Three-spined stickleback
[edit] Other vertebrates
* Anole sp.
* Appalachian Woodland Salamander
* Black-spotted Frog
* Broad-headed Skink
* Checkered Whiptail Lizard
* Chihuahuan Spotted Whiptail Lizard
* Common Ameiva
* Common Garter Snake
* Cuban Green Anole
* Desert Grassland Whiptail Lizard
* Desert Tortoise
* Fence Lizard
* Five-lined Skink
* Gopher (Pine) Snake
* Green Anole
* Inagua Curlytail Lizard
* Jamaican Giant Anole
* Laredo Striped Whiptail Lizard
* Largehead Anole
* Mountain Dusky Salamander
* Mourning Gecko
* Plateau Striped Whiptail Lizard
* Red Diamond Rattlesnake
* Red-tailed Skink
* Side-blotched Lizard
* Speckled Rattlesnake
* Tengger Desert Toad
* Water Moccasin
* Western Rattlesnake
* Western Banded Gecko
* Whiptail Lizard spp.
* Wood Turtle
[edit] Insects and other invertebrates
* Acanthocephalan Worms
* Alfalfa Weevil
* Australian Parasitic Wasp sp.
* Bean Weevil sp.
* Bedbug and other Bug spp.
* Blister Beetle spp.
* Blowfly
* Box Crab
* Broadwinged Damselfly sp.
* Cabbage (Small) White
* Checkerspot Butterfly
* Clubtail Dragonfly spp.
* Cockroach spp.
* Common Skimmer Dragonfly spp.
* Creeping Water Bug sp.
* Digger Bee
* Dragonfly spp.
* Eastern Giant Ichneumon
* Eucalyptus Longhorned Borer
* Field Cricket sp.
* Fruit Fly spp.
* Glasswing Butterfly
* Grape Berry Moth
* Grape Borer
* Green Lacewing
* Harvest Spider sp.
* Hawaiian Orb-Weaver
* Hen Flea
* House Fly
* Ichneumon Wasp sp.
* Incirrate Octopus spp.
* Japanese Scarab Beetle
* Jumping Spider sp.
* Larch Bud Moth
* Large Milkweed Bug
* Large White
* Long-legged Fly spp.
* Mazarine Blue
* Mediterranean Fruit Fly
* Mexican White
* Midge sp.
* Migratory Locust
* Mite sp.
* Monarch Butterfly
* Narrow-winged Damselfly spp.
* Parsnip Leaf Miner
* Pomace Fly
* Prea
* Queen Butterfly
* Red Ant sp.
* Red Flour Beetle
* Reindeer Warble Fly
* Rosechafer
* Rove Beetle spp.
* Scarab Beetle, Melolonthine
* Screwworm Fly
* Silkworm Moth
* Sociable Weaver
* Southeastern Blueberry Bee
* Southern Green Stink Bug
* Southern Masked Chafer
* Southern One-Year Canegrub
* Spreadwinged Damselfly spp.
* Spruce Budworm Moth
* Stable Fly sp.
* Stag Beetle spp.
* Tsetse Fly
* Water Boatman Bug
* Water Strider spp.
from [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior[/URL][/QUOTE]
the attitude of Christians and even non Christians is that humans are better than animals, so they don't act bestial.
(for Christians, in this case it means no gays. for non Christians it might mean no reckless sex chases to get your genes into the next generation)
Wow I am really surprised at the comments on cnnsi looks like the majority are backing up Tim, idealogically.
Didnt anyone watch X-Men?!?!?
Now is it just me or do some of these homophobes seem to have the idea about homosexuals that they're all sexual deviants who'll if given the slightest bit of oppurtunity would not hesitate to force him/her self upon them.
[QUOTE=El Kabong]Now is it just me or do some of these homophobes seem to have the idea about homosexuals that they're all sexual deviants who'll if given the slightest bit of oppurtunity would not hesitate to force him/her self upon them.[/QUOTE]
Tim Hardaway thinks this way.
but who do you define as a homophobe? conservatives? Republicans? regular church going families? the Vatican? the Muslims? please elaborate.
singling out people as homophobes is just as ignorant and bigoted as it is to call people homosexual deviants. they are both born out of sheer mean spirited ignorance.
just like how it is wrong, ignorant and bigoted to call a black man the N word, just as it is to call someone who votes Republican a stupid Red State hick who likes to eat at Red Lobster and play bowling on Friday nights.
it may not have the same civil connotations, but you cannot disagree both are ignorant statements.
Since so many folks Tim was wrong for his view. here is a question. If you were playing any type of organized sport, would you use the shower right next to a person who you KNOW is gay? I'm not saying just being his team mate. I'm saying being butt naked shower in his open view comfortably.
in a nutshell:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJItvzASxhM[/url]
Why didn't anyone call Mj a homophobe when he called Kwame a "flaming ******"?
Okay I must be outdated cuz ya'll are brining up something i aint never heard of.......but then again I aint up on my Zoology since H.S...
[QUOTE=boozehound]well I dont think this forum was around at the time (I certainly wasnt part of it) but of course I would defend his right to not stand during the national anthem. I think it cheapens the meaning of the anthem if people are forced to partake against their will (as if our false patriotism werent cheap enough - only 1.99 and you too can "support the troops" with a sticker that in no way benefits the troops). I was at a white sox game shortly after 9/11, and a couple there were wearing "arrow through head" style flags with about 9 stripes and 15 stars. During the 7th inning stretch the stood up to god bless america and were pointing to their flag heads like they were the ****ing most american thing since john wayne. I was already completely offended by them (The flag is meant to be displayed as that, a flag, or as a patch on a uniform - any clothing with the flag depicted, or using the flag pattern is belittling to the ideals which that flag represents). No bikinis, no stickers on your car with GW face over the flag.
[URL="http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:5XuUp5c8t8sJ:www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf+US+government+flag+display&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us"]http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:5XuUp5c8t8sJ:www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf+US+government+flag+display&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us[/URL]
And to be fair he wasnt being lambasted for being a muslim, but for a politically symbolic act he was engaged in. [URL="http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_n11_v113/ai_18179967"]http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_n11_v113/ai_18179967[/URL][/QUOTE]
Of course it was becuz he was a muslim teh act was mae to be something subversive becuz he wasn't christian or athleist...if he was then he'd just be a disrespectful/lazy jigabo...but they turned it into a religion thing and went to Hakeem.....try to make it seem liek Rauf was a bad person and a poor muslim.
i saw a topic a few days ago asking if you would think less of jordan if he came out of the closet and i think i wouldn't know the answer if i would or not think less of MJ. like it's impossible to deny his greatness in the game of bball. and i can't imagine a manly man like him being a gay guy. but for tim hardaway i am thinking less of him for the comment he made on gay people. i don't know. somehow i just don't like him much anymore. i guess it's just like how people started to hate kobe so much when he turned out as a ******/cheater.
[QUOTE=knickscity]Since so many folks Tim was wrong for his view. here is a question. If you were playing any type of organized sport, would you use the shower right next to a person who you KNOW is gay? I'm not saying just being his team mate. I'm saying being butt naked shower in his open view comfortably.[/QUOTE]
the issue isnt him saying I would be uncomfortable with a gay man seeing my naked ***** in the shower. He said he hates a group of people and they have no place in the wolrd. much stronger. many of the nba players made comments about the locker room issue with no backlash
Hardaway is entitled to his own opinion and is allowed to present them in our culture of free speech.
however, that does not mean he should have made these remarks. they were crass and insensitive. and even though I lean to the right, I understand that homosexual citizens have rights as well.