2022 off season Post Gobert. A new era begins

[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rosede01.html[/url]

[QUOTE][h=2]Current Contract[/h] Player Option, Team Option · [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/"]NBA Contracts Summary[/URL]






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[TD][URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/NYK.html"]New York Knicks[/URL][/TD]
[TD]$14,520,730[/TD]
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Traded from DET to NYK Monday, February 8, 2021.



Signed 2-yr $15M contract Saturday, July 6, 2019.




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Expiring. Player option next year for Rose so he might actually be better but Thibs would be sad. Could buy him out if necessary though he should still have value

Randle 3 more years and then a player option! No thanks!

[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267958/RJ-Barrett-Not-Believed-To-Be-Dealbreaker-In-Discussions-Between-Knicks-Jazz-On-Donovan-Mitchell[/url]

[QUOTE]"The Jazz desire to get him is unclear to me," said Zach Lowe. "He might not be the dealbreaker people think it is."

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Just give Danny more picks and swaps!

[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267951/Raptors-Could-Trade-For-Bojan-Bogdanovic[/url]

probably be a bench player there. 6th man of the year?

[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267949/Knicks-Backed-Away-From-Huge-Trade-Request-From-Jazz[/url]

[QUOTE]While speaking with ESPN700 in Salt Lake City, Tony Jones of The Athletic reported that Utah made a huge request from New York in Mitchell trade talks. The Jazz wanted the Knicks to send six first-round picks, in addition to Quentin Grimes, Immanuel Quickley and Obi Toppin.

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Doing business with Danny is not for the weak minded! :lol

[QUOTE] [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/34245668/lowe-why-kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-mega-deals-expand-unprecedented-nba-trend"]But there is always risk, no matter how great the players involved. Several front-office executives around the league used a word beyond “risk” to describe the recent Atlanta and Minnesota deals for Dejounte Murray and Rudy Gobert respectively: reckless.[/URL] Even Durant is 34, and any team that acquires him will slice away a big part of its roster doing so. If it ends up being the Phoenix Suns — less likely after they matched the Indiana Pacers’ offer sheet for Deandre Ayton on Thursday — any unprotected Phoenix picks will have value given Durant is 34 and Chris Paul 37.

– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/34245668/lowe-why-kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-mega-deals-expand-unprecedented-nba-trend"]Zach Lowe @ ESPN[/URL]




It seems counterintuitive given they haven’t won a playoff series since 2004, but the Wolves might have been closer than Atlanta to “one-player-away” status. [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/34245668/lowe-why-kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-mega-deals-expand-unprecedented-nba-trend"]They had two bona fide stars in Anthony Edwards and Karl-Anthony Towns; Gobert gives them a big three — even if he’s a decade older than Edwards, who is barely starting his career[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/34245668/lowe-why-kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-mega-deals-expand-unprecedented-nba-trend"]Zach Lowe @ ESPN[/URL]

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big 4. They are deep to. They were a top 10 defense last year without Rudy! Should have Towns or Gobert in the game at all times. Should have Ant or D'angelo in the game at all times. Stagger Gobert with Ant like the Jazz did with Conley and Towns with his buddy.





[QUOTE] [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/34245668/lowe-why-kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-mega-deals-expand-unprecedented-nba-trend"]The decision to move from two stars to three can be one of the thorniest team-building moments. The choice hinges on the talent of the two in-house stars; the supporting cast; the franchise’s timeline; injury risks; and other variables. The Clippers and Celtics have been content to stick with two and maintain flexibility. The Nets grabbed a third. The uniqueness of New York’s pursuit of Mitchell is he would be star No. 1 — meaning the Knicks would have fewer avenues to acquire star No. 2[/URL]. Minnesota has zero history of nabbing major free agents, so it could frame the Gobert acquisition as its version of using cap space. Still: You rarely see teams in places like Minnesota go out on this kind of limb. The Wolves are probably still outside the inner circle of contenders until Edwards makes a big leap — by which time Gobert may be aging.

– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/34245668/lowe-why-kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-mega-deals-expand-unprecedented-nba-trend"]Zach Lowe @ ESPN[/URL]


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The Twolves win the trade unless the Jazz get a player at least as impactful as the highly flawed stiff Gobert. Execs are mad that they aren't getting their star too

[QUOTE] [URL="https://heavy.com/sports/los-angeles-lakers/lebron-james-contract-extension-trade/"]The Knicks have put out word that 22-year-old guard RJ Barrett, preparing for his fourth season, will not be available in trades, even in a blockbuster deal for Mitchell, whom New York has targeted for about a year. But one Eastern Conference general manager says that fact was mostly met with shrugs because of Barrett’s contract situation[/URL]. Barrett is entering the final year of his rookie scale contract.

– via [URL="https://heavy.com/sports/los-angeles-lakers/lebron-james-contract-extension-trade/"]Sean Deveney @ Heavy.com[/URL]





“R.J. is extension-eligible,” the GM said. “That is a tough position. [URL="https://heavy.com/sports/los-angeles-lakers/lebron-james-contract-extension-trade/"]He might want max money or something close to it. He is not going to get it. It’s a tough negotiation for the Knicks with that because you have to commit to $30 million per year for a guy who is very good as a scorer and has potential but has not shown he is an elite player, really.[/URL] There is interest in R.J. but no one wants to trade for him, then take on the job of negotiating with him. Let the Knicks do that.”

– via [URL="https://heavy.com/sports/los-angeles-lakers/lebron-james-contract-extension-trade/"]Sean Deveney @ Heavy.com[/URL]


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while paying Mitchell max when he really isn't a max player either!

[QUOTE] [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/leaving-las-vegas-with-summer-league"]The Knicks naturally hope to complete the actual acquisition of Donovan Mitchell now without surrendering more than, say, four or five of those eight future firsts[/URL] and by keeping RJ Barrett out of the deal. While Barrett’s exclusion is likely fine with the Jazz, Utah (gulp) is said to want at least six of the eight picks.

– via [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/leaving-las-vegas-with-summer-league"]Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com[/URL]





[URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/leaving-las-vegas-with-summer-league"]New York’s recently re-signed center Mitchell Robinson is ineligible to be traded before Dec. 15, creating another hurdle, but the presence of Quentin Grimes, Miles McBride, Immanuel Quickley, Cam Reddish and Obi Toppin on its roster seemingly gives Rose optionality when it comes to packaging promising young players with his array of picks,[/URL] with Grimes believed to be at the top of Utah’s wish list. The Knicks’ most pressing fear appears to be: Don’t outbid yourself and end up being second-guessed leaguewide like Minnesota after what the Wolves gave up for Gobert.

– via [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/leaving-las-vegas-with-summer-league"]Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com[/URL]


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The Twolves are now one of the top teams in the league. No matter what the Knicks give up they likely aren't that good still. Looking more like a poor man Jazz with small guards and Robinson

James ****in' Dolan isn't going to let one or two measly 1sts stop this trade from happening is he?

[URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/leaving-las-vegas-with-summer-league"]Mitchell is Miami’s favorite current trade target not named Kevin Durant. Brooklyn is believed to covet Mitchell with a similar fervor to install him as a potential successor to Durant as the Nets’ cornerstone player.[/URL] Even if you believe that the Heat simply don’t have sufficient draft assets to outbid the Knicks for Mitchell, or that Phoenix’s retention of restricted free agent Deandre Ayton decreases the Suns’ ability to trade for Durant and thus makes it even harder on the Nets to concoct a multiteam trade construction that brings them Mitchell, New York must likewise be careful not to underestimate its reputable competition here on top of everything else.

– via [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/leaving-las-vegas-with-summer-league"]Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com[/URL]

The Athletic: Donovan Mitchell was chirping at Marcus Stroman on Twitter after the game between the Mets and Cubs was postponed. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]@STR0 had other things on his mind… pic.twitter.com/QDsnzoElWv[/URL]

[HR][/HR] [INDENT] Donovan Mitchell was chirping at Marcus Stroman on Twitter after the game between the Mets and Cubs was postponed.[URL="https://twitter.com/STR0?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]@STR0[/URL] had other things on his mind… [URL="https://t.co/QDsnzoElWv"]pic.twitter.com/QDsnzoElWv[/URL]
— The Athletic NBA (@TheAthleticNBA) [URL="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA/status/1548027587137458177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]July 15, 2022[/URL][/INDENT]

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA"]Twitter TheAthleticNBA[/URL]

[URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/leaving-las-vegas-with-summer-league"]Knicks assistant coach Johnny Bryant, who is very close with Mitchell, indeed secured multiple interviews during Utah’s recent coaching search but did not advance to the final stage before the job went to Boston Celtics assistant Will Hardy.[/URL] Utah’s reported finalists for the job alongside Hardy were Toronto’s Adrian Griffin, Boston’s Joe Mazzulla and Jazz holdover assistant Alex Jensen.
– via [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/leaving-las-vegas-with-summer-league"]Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com[/URL]

pg Sexton/Quickley/Forrest/Butler(Stars)/McBride(Stars)
sg Horton-Tucker/Grimes/Keels(roster, two way or stash?)(Stars?)/Darryl Morsell(Exhibit 10)(Stars)
sf Nickeil/Bolambo(Stars)/Juang(2way)(Stars)/Usher(exhibit10)(Stars)/Williams(exhibit 10)(Stars)
pf Vanderbilt/Toppin/Paschall
c Udoka/Kessler(Stars or rotation?)/Cockburn(exhibit 10)(Stars)

Butler or Quickley become expendable if they get Sexton to lead the tank.

[url]https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/07/jazz-reportedly-asking-knicks-for-three-players-six-first-rounders-in-mitchell-talks.html[/url]

[QUOTE]The Jazz would have to take back at least one sizeable contract from New York to match Mitchell’s $30.35MM salary for next season. That probably won’t be [B][URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/randlju01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Julius Randle[/URL][/B] ($23.76MM in 2022/23), according to one of Larsen’s sources, who says that [B][URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fournev01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Evan Fournier[/URL][/B] ($18MM) or [B][URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rosede01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Derrick Rose[/URL][/B] ($14.52MM) is more likely to be included.

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Rose probably makes the most sense for both teams. Expiring and the Knicks have plenty of small guards without him

[URL]https://www.spotrac.com/nba/utah-jazz/contracts/[/URL]

says here Sneed got a two year deal. I don't think that would be guaranteed. Butler is expiring. He might be gone. Walker-Alexander up for extension. He's the biggest guard on the future roster I just made. Might be worth signing him to an extension if it's the right price for the tank. Got rotation experience on a tanking team already

pg Sexton/Quickley/Forrest/Butler(Stars)/McBride(Stars)
sg Grimes/Horton-Tucker/Sneed(2way(Stars)/Keels(roster, two way or stash?) (Stars?)/Morsell(Exhibit 10)(Stars)
sf Nickeil/Bolambo(Stars)/Juang(2way)(Stars)/Usher(exhibit10) (Stars)/Williams(exhibit 10)(Stars)
pf Vanderbilt/Toppin/Paschall
c Udoka/Kessler(Stars or rotation?)/Cockburn(exhibit 10)(Stars)