GOBB gets owned more than any poster here that I can think of. Self inflicted no less.
I wanna see the ramifications of this trade badly but sucks the abyss of the All Star Game is approaching with all that time off. Total waste of time and space.
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GOBB gets owned more than any poster here that I can think of. Self inflicted no less.
I wanna see the ramifications of this trade badly but sucks the abyss of the All Star Game is approaching with all that time off. Total waste of time and space.
[QUOTE=GOBB;14974575]Luka was traded for Davis. Davis is not better than Embiid. Luka for Embiid is fair value straight up. I wouldn’t include another star player as mentioned n an earlier post. Hence why we are even here. You don’t have to agree. I don’t agree with your existence. But alas you’re here…[/QUOTE]
Davis is a million times better than embeta wtf are you on about
[QUOTE=GOBB;14974584]Seek therapy asap.[/QUOTE]
Your way of having a civil convo is saying you disagree with my existence? But saying you have a stupid opinion is taking it too far and I need therapy?
:roll:
[QUOTE=coin24;14974594]Davis is a million times better than embeta wtf are you on about[/QUOTE]
No he’s not. Embiid is better.
[QUOTE=coin24;14974594]Davis is a million times better than embeta wtf are you on about[/QUOTE]
No, lol. Davis is the same.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14974604]No, lol. Davis is the same.[/QUOTE]
ADs playoff numbers blow Embiids out the water. On paper they seem similar but that's not what played out in our shared reality.
[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10153150-nba-insider-luka-doncic-ineligible-for-345m-supermax-contract-after-lakers-trade[/url]
Ehh.
-Smak
It depends what you want/what the measure is.
As a guy you go through? Embiid is clearly the more skilled, more dominant player.
In terms of toughness in the paint? Lobs, offensive rebounds, finishing through contact etc AD *can* bring more of that than Embiid, altho he doesnt always actually do it.
Davis really doesnt have a ton of skill in the post. He's not a great shooter, not a great passer, his footwork is a bit clumsy. He really plays more like Drummond, but with average touch and some range, instead of poor touch and no range.
So it just depends whether you want a three level scorer or a bully in the paint. Thats basically the difference. Both elite defenders, both injury prone. It's probably gonna be contingent on what the rest of your team looks like. I dont think AD being *better* than Embiid when both healthy is a serious argument, but if you really like AD and want to lean on the subjective nature of it, you could argue he's roughly on Embiid's level in terms of impact in your opinion. I would take Embiid.
That said, I'm just talking basketball in a vacuum. When you talk about psychological fragility and how thats going to bode in the postseason long term, Embiid definitely loses some ground.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14974500]If they couldn't make a deal they wouldn't want it to get out that they had offered Doncic. That's one of the benefits of doing a trade with a friendly front office,[/QUOTE]
The benefits are outweiged by ending up with devin harris, favors and kanter for your best player
[QUOTE=Neal Romer;14974616]It depends what you want/what the measure is.
As a guy you go through? Embiid is clearly the more skilled, more dominant player.
In terms of toughness in the paint? Lobs, offensive rebounds, finishing through contact etc AD *can* bring more of that than Embiid, altho he doesnt always actually do it.
Davis really doesnt have a ton of skill in the post. He's not a great shooter, not a great passer, his footwork is a bit clumsy. He really plays more like Drummond, but with average touch and some range, instead of poor touch and no range.
So it just depends whether you want a three level scorer or a bully in the paint. Thats basically the difference. Both elite defenders, both injury prone. It's probably gonna be contingent on what the rest of your team looks like. I dont think AD being *better* than Embiid when both healthy is a serious argument, but if you really like AD and want to lean on the subjective nature of it, you could argue he's roughly on Embiid's level in terms of impact in your opinion. I would take Embiid.
That said, I'm just talking basketball in a vacuum. When you talk about psychological fragility and how thats going to bode in the postseason long term, Embiid definitely loses some ground.[/QUOTE]
Embiids game has fallen off in the playoffs way too many times while ADs has been extremely productive and efficient offensively with good to great defense. Why? Embiid seems to be more of a mental midget. The playoff numbers disparity is huge.
This is a perfect example of how the off the court stuff is way more entertaining than the actual games.
This sparks attention because of the soap opera drama weird speculation aspect.
The only thing keeping the NBA alive is this type of trade / free agent drama crap.
[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14974482]It is definitely odd that Nico went STRAIGHT to Pelinka to target AD. Nico knows both Pelinka and AD well. Definitely could be some level of collusion here.
OR, the Mavs this Luka will be a load managed, out of shape, injury proned player for the rest of his career and the Mavs don't want to pay a supermax for a player like this.
Just...wow.[/QUOTE]
I think the more likely scenario is that the Mavs realized Luka was probably walking and decided to trade early.
Mavs GM got played.
Apparently Pelinka & Nico first discussed the trade over coffee. Pelinka planted the seeds. Mavs GM even said the new owner laughed at him when he first told him about the trade idea.
Also seems like the Mavs traded with the Lakers because Nico knew Pelinka personally and he trusted him that none of this trade talk would be leaked to the media.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14974646]Mavs GM got played.
Apparently Pelinka & Nico first discussed the trade over coffee. Pelinka planted the seeds. Mavs GM even said the new owner laughed at him when he first told him about the trade idea.
Also seems like the Mavs traded with the Lakers because Nico knew Pelinka personally and he trusted him that none of this trade talk would be leaked to the media.[/QUOTE]
Seems like the NBA is rigged just like the American government.
What is Trumps opinion on this? Being that he is a smart businessman, why does he think Luka was traded for street clothes?
Because in reality Trumps opinion on things is what matters.
Or it just could’ve been rigged like everything in republic America.
[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;14974664]Seems like the NBA is rigged just like the American government.
What is Trumps opinion on this? Being that he is a smart businessman, why does he think Luka was traded for street clothes?
Because in reality Trumps opinion on things is what matters.
Or it just could’ve been rigged like everything in republic America.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm