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[url]http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/246611/Grading-The-Deal-Jazz-Trade-For-Ricky-Rubio-As-Wolves-Make-Way-For-New-Point-Guard[/url]
[QUOTE]Grade for Jazz: A-[/QUOTE]
I say F. Makes little sense no matter what they do after this
[QUOTE]Rubio has been on the trading block for months and he
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[QUOTE]Rubio is 6'4 with 7'0 wingspan[/QUOTE]
now I get it
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[QUOTE]Marc Stein: On top of the Rubio score and Utah
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[QUOTE]Alex Kennedy: The Knicks have considered moving Courtney Lee in order to free up cap space. If Lee is moved, NY will pursue significant FA point guards.
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Well, our D should be good, but imagine Rubio and Exum on court together? Wouldn't be able to hit the side of a barn!
They didn't want to/couldn't pay George Hill $25 million a year for his 50 games, so I guess this is the next best alternative I guess to potentially keep Hayward happy, especially if it gives them enough space to keep Ingles too.
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[QUOTE=El Kabong]Well, our D should be good, but imagine Rubio and Exum on court together? Wouldn't be able to hit the side of a barn!
They didn't want to/couldn't pay George Hill $25 million a year for his 50 games, so I guess this is the next best alternative I guess to potentially keep Hayward happy, especially if it gives them enough space to keep Ingles too.[/QUOTE]
Imagine a line-up of Exum, Rubio, Favors and Gobert. Jerry ball returns! I'd guess Favors has to go now for sure or he'll be coming off the bench and demand to go.
I think Ingles needs to go if Hayward stays for some reason. Might as well keep him if the lottery is the goal I guess though.
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[QUOTE]One name that came up in talks was Ryan Anderson, per sources. But the Knicks said at that time that they weren
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Rubio was teammates and roommates with Jazz wing Joe Ingles when the pair played in Barcelona in 2010 before Rubio came to the NBA. Jazz draftee Donovan Mitchell also welcomed Rubio to the Jazz.
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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5462811-155/kragthorpe-jazzs-trade-for-ricky-rubio[/url]
[QUOTE]All I know is Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey had to make Friday's move. Imagine the reaction in the coming days if the Jazz had lost Hayward and Hill in free agency, without anyone to replace either of them.[/QUOTE]
Rather have Neto starting
[QUOTE]What's clear at the moment is Rubio is better than any other point guard on the Jazz's current roster[/QUOTE]
no it's not
[QUOTE]Lindsey didn't have to trade Rodney Hood or Derrick Favors to get him[/QUOTE]
Probably rather have the pick especially now that they are tanking again
[QUOTE]So the only way anyone could criticize this trade is to say confidently that Hayward was convinced that Hill would re-sign with the Jazz, and then Hill actually would do so, and then Hill would remain healthy at age 31 in 2017-18 and for years to come, unlike last season. That's connecting a lot of dots.[/QUOTE]
but those dots make sense. These do not
[QUOTE]And why wouldn't Hayward like Rubio? He's a true point guard who will set up his teammates[/QUOTE]
because Rubio's defender will be doubling Hayward
[QUOTE]he just has to play better than Hill's potential replacement in free agency
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[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684043/Dante-Exum-Joel-Bolomboy-impress-in-Utah-Jazzs-first-Summer-League-practice.html[/url]
[QUOTE]Jensen said players looked rusty in the morning practice, but he liked what he saw from returning Jazz players Exum and Bolomboy.
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[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684044/Ricky-Rubio-gets-a-home-where-they-know-great-guards.html[/url]
[QUOTE]ESPN rates him ninth-best among point guards in real plus-minus, not far behind No. 6 Hill.[/QUOTE]
Wh cares if he's a poor fit. He needs to be on a team where everyone else can shoot. That is not Utah
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/6/30/15906824/2017-free-agency-ricky-rubio-utah-jazz-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-defensive-identity[/url]
[QUOTE]Rubio is fantastic in the open court. He
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[QUOTE]Rudy Gobert: Allright can we just fusion the east and the west, it
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The Clippers pass them too with Griffin signing
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[QUOTE]Tim Bontemps: Word on the street is that Utah Jazz forward Joe Ingles, a restricted free agent, could easily get around $15 million per in free agency.
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Minny has passed the Jazz. Back to the lottery. Lindsey and Snyder must be happy. Seems that's where they want to be.
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Let's hope the wizard doesn't pay Ingles 15 million a year now :no:
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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5462808-155/utah-jazz-notes-dante-exum-joel[/url]
[QUOTE]Jensen said he would consult with coach Quin Snyder on how to play Exum and Mitchell together, but said it was likely they'll spend a chunk of time on the floor with one another.[/QUOTE]
And Wallace and Goss. Need to give those 4 most of the minutes at the 1-3.
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684029/Gordon-Hayward-staying-in-Utah-National-media-is-not-convinced.html[/url]
be stupid to stay at this point
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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: The San Antonio Spurs and Denver Nuggets are expressing interest in point guard George Hill, sources tell The Salt Lake Tribune
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Scott Agness: Gordon Hayward and his wife, Robyn, are in Miami and will meet with Heat officials today. Then Boston and Utah. vigilantsports.com/2017/06/28/gor
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[QUOTE]The Spurs might still address the point guard position. They
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[QUOTE]Brad Turner: Clippers to meet with Danilo Gallinari Sunday, also with Joe Ingles and Jonathan Simmons this weekend, per source.
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Michael Gallagher: Woj on ESPN: Clippers focused on Danilo Gallinari and Joe Ingles.
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[QUOTE]Alex Kennedy: Things have been surprisingly quiet regarding Paul Millsap.
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Jody Genessy: Gordon Hayward
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[QUOTE]Michael Gallagher: Woj on ESPN: Gordon Hayward has been engaged with the Jazz this offseason. Woj notes working with Jazz trainers, etc. Jazz are confident.
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[QUOTE]Tony Jones on Gordon Hayward
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Denver has reached out to George Hill since the free agency period started but the Knicks have not yet, per league sources. Denver has serious interest in Hill but would need to create cap space to sign the point guard. The club can do that by letting Danilo Gallinari walk in free agency.
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Tim Bontemps: While Joe Ingles has serious interest from Orlando, sources say he has three meetings lined up with teams tomorrow to survey the field.
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Shams Charania: Sources: George Hill, Spurs discussions broke off. Denver and New York have so far made initial contact with Hill, one of top PGs on market.
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[QUOTE]Frank Isola: Source close to free agent Paul Millsap says Denver and Minnesota have emerged as frontrunners. Sacramento and Phoenix still in the mix.
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Michael Scotto: Paul Millsap has a meeting lined up with the Minnesota Timberwolves today, league sources told Basketball Insiders.
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Adam Joseph: The Brooklyn Nets are one of the teams who have secured a meeting with free agent Joe Ingles, sources tell @16WinsARing
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2017/7/1/15906596/nba-free-agency-2017-rumors-utah-jazz-jamychal-green-serge-ibaka-patrick-patterson-lamarcus-aldridge[/url]
[QUOTE]JaMychal Green, RFA - Only 26 years old, and he put up shooting splits of 50/38/80 (TS% of .601!!!). He had the best ORB%, DRB%, and TRB% of any other power forward mentioned here. WS/48 of .132, which is fantastic for a 3rd year player. Grizzlies likely match any reasonable offers, probably up to the $20~ million a year range. If Utah can somehow pry him away from Memphis without them matching, he fits the mold of everything the Jazz could want in a 4.[/QUOTE]
He'd be a great get. Money should be no problem now
[QUOTE]Why Utah doesn
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
Saw Mitchell on the news last night. He's got an NBA build already. If he can knock down the NBA 3 maybe he can help them sooner than later
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[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/01/crazy-day-nba-offseason-major-implications-utah-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]Rubio is on a relatively friendly deal for a starting point guard with a contract of about $14 million during each of the next two years. That
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/01/utah-jazz-trading-ricky-rubio-brilliant-move-dennis-lindsey/[/url]
[QUOTE]Not only do the Jazz get a young point guard who can contribute right away, but they saved themselves a lot of money.[/QUOTE]
We don't know that actually. What we do know is Hill is worth more. Perfect fit. Hayward wanted him back. Rubio can't shoot
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://dunkingwithwolves.com/2017/06/30/ricky-rubio-trade-rumors-come-to-and-end/[/url]
[QUOTE]The same result will happen for this trade. Meaning if Utah doesn