2019-20 season - Been waiting two decades for this one!

[QUOTE][URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29023069/the-luke-walton-all-stars-nine-surprising-players-nba-season"]Wood is an intriguing free agent this summer. Some potential suitors worry he is caught between positions on defense. He’s undersized against some centers — Wood knows he has to get stronger — and untested as a paint quarterback.[/URL] (He has looked better at times switching onto guards instead of hanging near the rim.) Chasing stretchier power forwards is a tall order. Wood plans to work on his off-ball defense over the summer, he said.
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29023069/the-luke-walton-all-stars-nine-surprising-players-nba-season"]Zach Lowe @ ESPN[/URL]

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should be on the Jazz short list to start at the 4 for them

O’Neale joins Muscala as the only other eligible player with over 60% of their shots taken with a defender six or more feet away. He’s shooting 41.6% from three when wide-open for the season, but, most interestingly, he shows an innate ability to predict the future. [URL="https://warmthebench.substack.com/p/introducing-the-socially-distant"]O’Neale consistently got more distant over the months of the season, peaking at 80% of his March field goal attempts happening with a six-foot minimum gap[/URL].
– via [URL="https://warmthebench.substack.com/p/introducing-the-socially-distant"]Mike Schoppmann @ Warm The Bench[/URL]

[URL]https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29023069/the-luke-walton-all-stars-nine-surprising-players-nba-season[/URL]

[QUOTE]He didn't play much in 2018-19, but Utah officials made sure he knew they saw something in him. With [URL="http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3028/thabo-sefolosha"]Thabo Sefolosha[/URL] suspended, Niang logged nine minutes in Utah's second game and scored eight points. He was at dinner with family and friends when his phone lit up with a text from Quin Snyder: [I]I'm proud of you. I'm excited to coach you.[/I]
[I][/I]
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you forgot all league Gleague 1st team

[QUOTE][URL="https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/knicks-mailbag-on-a-potential-donovan-mitchell-trade-and-if-mitchell-robinson-is-untouchable/313262910"]If Mitchell were to seek a trade from the Jazz, one opposing executive, speculating, said that any Knicks package would probably have to include either RJ Barrett or Mitchell Robinson, and two first-round picks[/URL] (one of them unprotected). So if you are putting together potential Knicks trade packages for Mitchell, it makes sense to start there. And, obviously, if Utah was trading Mitchell and keeping Gobert, the club wouldn’t want to deal for Robinson.
– via [URL="https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/knicks-mailbag-on-a-potential-donovan-mitchell-trade-and-if-mitchell-robinson-is-untouchable/313262910"]SportsNet New York[/URL]



[URL="https://*********.com/storyline/donovan-mitchell-trade/"]The reality is that the way the Jazz are built, they need both (Mitchell and Gobert). Otherwise, Utah essentially would have to start over. But, yes, whenever there is a distressed asset, it is safe to assume that Pat Riley and the Heat will be sniffing around. Both Gobert and Mitchell will be free agents in the 2021 offseason. But the divorce could come before that. So, [/URL][URL="https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-askira-story.html"]if you’re the Heat, do you move in advance? And for which? While Gobert is far more of a team component than Hassan Whiteside, would that prove limiting to Bam Adebayo? Mitchell, by contrast, would seem to work for any team[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-askira-story.html"]Ira Winderman @ South Florida Sun-Sentinel[/URL][/QUOTE]

Start over like they did when Hayward left or the other kind? If Rudy stays they remain competitive. If Rudy goes they probably suck

Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Former Utah Jazz forward Trevor Booker is officially retiring. Announcement is imminent[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]

Tony Jones on the Jazz: They’re committed to this core. [URL="https://theathletic.com/podcast/20-tampering/?episode=52"]There’s no indication that they’re at a point where they’re trying to choose between Rudy Gobert or Donovan Mitchell.[/URL] But at the same time, I mean, the front office knows that there’s an issue and the front office knows that there’s a significant issue.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/podcast/20-tampering/?episode=52"]The Athletic[/URL]

[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/14/21219529/nba-draft-underclassmen-declare-early-utah-both-gach[/URL]

[QUOTE]For one thing, he needs a lot of work on his body. He’ll probably always be thin, but right now he has just 183 pounds on his 6-foot-6 frame.


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and that's what the league will tell him. I see no problem with declaring and not hiring an agent. Kind of stupid not to really just to get the feedback and go through the process. Gavin Baxter should with his length and athleticism.


[QUOTE]The difference this year is that players won’t have the same opportunities as in the past to show off their skills because of the COVID-19 shutdown. The Utah Jazz used to bring 100 or so players in for individual workouts during May and June. Unless things change in a hurry, there will be no NBA combine in May, no G League Elite Camp and perhaps just a handful or team workouts before the draft, unless it’s pushed back to late summer or the fall.


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and the Jazz say the workouts aren't where most of their decisions come from


[QUOTE]And even though the majority of players will take their names out of the draft, which Gach may very well do, too many don’t. Last year for the first time, more underclassmen went undrafted (44) than were drafted (40) and thus lost their college eligibility with little hope to ever make the NBA.


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and maybe they should have never been in college in the first place. Lots of places t play ball besides the NBA. College should be for tudent athletes not people waiting to play basketball

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/04/15/utah-jazz-day-reckoning-mitchell-gobert/[/URL]

[QUOTE]“Back the thing up to before the season started and note that Gobert wants a max deal, maybe a super-max, one that will pay him a gazillion dollars when his current deal ends after next season. Only the best players in the NBA are privileged to get that kind of contract, one that could take up to 35 percent of a team’s payroll, and — yeah, here’s a shock — Gobert wants to prove to everyone that he is, in fact, one of the best.


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Already proven it

[QUOTE]He needs to realize that he doesn’t need to expand his offensive game at all, and that in doing so he takes away opportunities from one of the best 3-point shooting teams in the game. And he also needs to realize that taking the most money possible could handicap the Jazz in their chase for a title.


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The dunk is still the most efficient shot in the league. Opens everything else up

[QUOTE]Will Gobert force the Jazz into paying him the super-max? If he doesn’t get extended at all before the start of next season, will the Jazz put him on the trading block so he doesn’t walk away the way [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/haywago01.html"]Gordon Hayward[/URL] did three years ago?


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I think this all could be just an excuse so they don't have to pay him. Good luck winning without him though! :cry:

[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/16/21223729/donovan-mitchell-utah-jazz-guard-rudy-gobert[/URL]

[URL]https://fansided.com/2020/04/15/5-utah-jazz-trades-solve-rudy-gobert-donovan-mitchell-impasse/[/URL]

[QUOTE][h=3]Boston Celtics[/h]

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no

[QUOTE][h=3]Golden State Warriors[/h]

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No. I don't see why the pick would be protected in a weak draft. GS is the heavy favorite with Gobert

[QUOTE][h=3]Los Angeles Clippers[/h][/QUOTE]
no

[QUOTE][h=3]Portland Trail Blazers[/h]

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that one I like

[QUOTE][h=3]San Antonio Spurs[/h]

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no

I'd look at OKC. They have good players and picks. Most to offer

[URL]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2020/04/14/nba-rumors-3-potential-landing-spots-demar-derozan/2/[/URL]

[QUOTE]If so, it could open room for the Jazz to fit DeRozan into their cap sheet next season. Even though it didn’t work with Conley, with [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/goberru01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Rudy Gobert[/URL] entering the final year on his contract with the team next season, the Jazz could go all-in on the season behind a DeRozan acquisition.


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Hurts their spacing while not helping the D. pass

[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Conley said that he thinks everyone would be excited to get out on the court, even without fans involved, if NBA were to resume. He pointed out, though, that Utah’s home court advantage would be significantly hurt without fans in the arena[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]



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and the altitude

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/04/18/utah-jazz-early-entries-first-round/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Even though Utah doesn’t draft on positional needs, Reed would rill a role as a young front court addition. With [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/goberru01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Rudy Gobert[/URL]‘s free agency quickly coming up, the Jazz may want to get younger at that position, making Reed an intriguing option.


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Center is obviously the position they need to be looking at assuming Gobert isn't traded. Bradley also a free agent after next season

[QUOTE]The only thing that matters, though, is how high he is on their draft board. The Utah Jazz are going to draft the best player available every single time, as they should.


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No they need to look to move up or down if there isn't a center. They had 6 rookies a year ago plus Bradley. Need a center

[QUOTE]At just 18 years old, Stewart is pretty built. He has great strength to go with elite length. He’s only 6’9″ as a center, but his 7’5″ wingspan helps him tremendously. That’s quite the combination. Stewart has the tools to be a major challenge on both ends of the court.


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sounds like their guy with that wingspan

The Jazz, utilizing Zoom, have been conducting weekly team meetings with head coach Quin Snyder, in addition to virtual group workouts, and team challenges. [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/19/21226106/utah-jazz-guard-mike-conley-on-life-during-quarantine-with-a-baby-on-the-way"]“We’ve had like fun little dribbling challenges that one of the coaches started per week and we crown a winner,” Conley said. “Just trying to keep guys engaged as much as possible in hopes that we can get back to playing soon.”[/URL] Conley has also been trying to stay engaged with his teammates in more recreational ways, playing Call of Duty with Royce O’Neale and Donovan Mitchell and playing Monopoly with Ed Davis.
– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/19/21226106/utah-jazz-guard-mike-conley-on-life-during-quarantine-with-a-baby-on-the-way"]Sarah Todd @ deseret.com[/URL]


[URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/19/21226106/utah-jazz-guard-mike-conley-on-life-during-quarantine-with-a-baby-on-the-way"]“That was kind of my first priority and my first worry at the time,” Conley said on Friday. “Even when this was first coming out, there wasn’t a lot of research or a lot of cases documented of what happens with pregnant women or children when they’re born[/URL] or whatever, so it was a little scary for us.”
– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/19/21226106/utah-jazz-guard-mike-conley-on-life-during-quarantine-with-a-baby-on-the-way"]Sarah Todd @ deseret.com[/URL]

[QUOTE][URL="https://theathletic.com/1747059/2020/04/14/live-qa-david-aldridge-answers-your-d-c-sports-and-nba-questions-on-april-20/"]There have been rumblings well before either of them contracted coronavirus that the Jazz were growing weary of Gobert. Not that they were actively shopping him or trying to get rid of him, but that he might be more available than you’d think[/URL] a Defensive Player of the Year and guy who is such an anchor would be. It will not surprise me if Utah moves on after this season.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1747059/2020/04/14/live-qa-david-aldridge-answers-your-d-c-sports-and-nba-questions-on-april-20/"]David Aldridge @ The Athletic[/URL]



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tired of winnng! :facepalm

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/rumor-jazz-were-tiring-rudy-000036231.html[/URL]

back to tanking! :facepalm

[QUOTE][URL="https://theathletic.com/1753138/2020/04/20/state-of-the-nets-talking-coaching-search-free-agency-with-a-former-nba-exec/"]The one guy I would go crazy targeting if I were the Nets is Rudy Gobert, especially with all the assorted whispers out there that he and Donovan Mitchell aren’t feeling each other.[/URL] Gobert can be a free agent after the 2021 season if he doesn’t sign an extension with the Jazz. Presumably the Nets would need to put a pile of assets on the table to get interest from Utah — Dinwiddie, LeVert, picks, etc. would all need to be on the table. But man, he’d be a pretty amazing third pillar for this franchise.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1753138/2020/04/20/state-of-the-nets-talking-coaching-search-free-agency-with-a-former-nba-exec/"]Alex Schiffer and John Hollinger @ The Athletic[/URL]


Schiffer: Gobert fits a lot of their needs, especially defensively and would make for an interesting addition. [URL="https://theathletic.com/1753138/2020/04/20/state-of-the-nets-talking-coaching-search-free-agency-with-a-former-nba-exec/"]I could see the Nets sending Allen to Utah if a trade were to take place between those two teams.[/URL] To me, Allen’s future with the organization has gotten really interesting in light of Atkinson’s departure, which was tied to Jordan coming off the bench. Allen is eligible for an extension this summer and I think it would hurt the Nets if they don’t keep him, unless they make a trade for a player such as Gobert. What do you think of his situation in light of recent developments?
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1753138/2020/04/20/state-of-the-nets-talking-coaching-search-free-agency-with-a-former-nba-exec/"]Alex Schiffer and John Hollinger @ The Athletic[/URL]



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Again pretty much every team in the league ought to be lining up. Pass on Dinwiddle. Prince and Kurucs for the tank. Than you have to look to dump Conley, Bogie and Ingles as well

[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2020/4/22/21229493/the-utah-jazz-need-a-franchise-hall-of-fame[/URL]

[QUOTE][h=3]1) Andrei Kirilenko[/h][/QUOTE]

deserves to be in the rafters over some of them up there

[QUOTE][h=3]3) Deron Williams[/h][/QUOTE]
If his number isn't retired it's a joke.

[QUOTE]Adrian Dantley was with the Jazz for 7 seasons, and only had a winning record in 2 of them (45 wins was the best they ever got). He got his jersey retired based entirely off personal accolades with no winning at all. He was an all star 6 times with the Jazz and led the league in scoring twice. So I guess that’s impressive enough of a resume that they had to include him.
But Pistol Pete is the weirdest choice. He played 6 seasons for the Jazz although all but 17 games were in New Orleans. And those Jazz teams were awful. They were today’s suns, and he was the 1970’s Devin Booker. He put up numbers and looked stylish doing it, but there was no substance behind it. He was an all star 3 times with the New Orleans Jazz, and led the league in scoring once. I guess they had to put his name there because he has that name recognition. Idk. He didn’t do much for the franchise. They were so bad with him as their star that the team was sold and moved to Utah. Then he gave up on them and left them for Boston.
By the precedent set already, AK and DWill should have their jerseys retired. They’ve both done more for the team than some of those jerseys up there. If you value individual greatness, they were better players than Horny. If you value winning, they led the Jazz to more wins than AD and Pistol. However you slice it, the choices are weird.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/cchappell18"]cchappell18[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2020/4/22/21229493/the-utah-jazz-need-a-franchise-hall-of-fame#526700063"]Apr 22, 2020 | 10:39 AM[/URL]
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Jazz had never been in the playoffs til Dantley led them there improving 15 victories over the year before and winning the division. He deserves his place in the rafters with Stockton, Malone, Pistol, Deron and Rudy. That's it!

Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Joe Ingles on confidence of the season resuming: “My personal opinion is that every week that we go along it feels like less and less and chance.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]


Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Joe Ingles on idea of a bubble scenario said that being away from his kids that long “I don’t know how willing I am to do that as much as I love basketball”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]


Eric Walden: Joe Ingles, on preparing to resume the NBA season: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“I’m fortunate and lucky that I’ve got a gym at home; there are some guys on my team that live in apartments that don’t have access to as much as what I do.”[/URL] Added that he got a hoop at his house for the first time 2 weeks ago.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]


[URL="https://*********.com/rumors/#"]Tony Jones: [/URL][URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Joe Ingles said he has never put a timeline on how long he’s wanted to play[/URL].




– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]

[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/20/21228095/governors-state-of-sport-awards-honorees-unveiled[/URL]

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/04/24/utah-jazz-star-attainable-gobert-trade/[/URL]

Do any of these guys have the impact of Rudy though? Might as well get young guys and picks and tank of you can't get someone as impactful as him and there are few in the game

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/04/26/utah-jazz-afford-lose-jordan-clarkson/[/URL]

[QUOTE][h=1]The Utah Jazz can’t afford to lose Jordan Clarkson[/h]

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rubbish! They have bigger needs than him so depending on the price it's debatable especially if they are tanking without Gobert. Not a big fan of 1 on 5 myself

Conely recently showed off his ambidextrous abilities when he won ESPN’s HORSE tournament, using offhand shots to make things difficult for his opponents. [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/28/21240016/highlights-from-mike-conleys-twitter-q-a-utah-jazz-nba"]During the Q&A session a fan asked how Conley trained his offhand so effectively. “Honestly it takes a lot of work and starts as early as you can grab a ball,” Conley said. “Try to implement both-hand dribbling and not straying away from using that offhand.[/URL] As you get older it becomes harder and harder but it doesn’t mean you can’t accomplish equal hand dominance.”
– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/28/21240016/highlights-from-mike-conleys-twitter-q-a-utah-jazz-nba"]Sarah Todd @ deseret.com[/URL]


[URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/28/21240016/highlights-from-mike-conleys-twitter-q-a-utah-jazz-nba"]“Salt Lake has been unbelievable to me,” he said. “My family loves it. Obviously some of the best fans in the world. Truly a different experience for us, I think being in the mountains and altitude has been an adjustment.[/URL] But, everywhere you go everyone is a diehard Jazz fan and truly care about you and your family.”
– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/28/21240016/highlights-from-mike-conleys-twitter-q-a-utah-jazz-nba"]Sarah Todd @ deseret.com[/URL]

[URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/28/21240016/highlights-from-mike-conleys-twitter-q-a-utah-jazz-nba"]“Michael Jordan is No. 1,” Conley said. “His competitive nature, that’s the one thing I try to bring every night.”[/URL] In a later response to a question about his favorite players growing up, Conley said he was a huge Seattle SuperSonics fan and in turn a big fan of Gary Payton, who spent 13 years with the Sonics. He also again mentioned Jordan along with Isiah Thomas.
– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/4/28/21240016/highlights-from-mike-conleys-twitter-q-a-utah-jazz-nba"]Sarah Todd @ deseret.com[/URL]

The lower-level Eastern Conference talent evaluator suggested that [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888941-dubs-dynasty-plot-20"]if the Utah Jazz are forced to deal center Rudy Gobert, the Warriors might reconsider the idea of standing pat.[/URL] The Athletic reported that Jazz star Donovan Mitchell’s relationship with Gobert is not “salvageable” after the two tested positive for the coronavirus. Gobert was caught on video mocking protocol by touching all of the reporters’ tape recorders at a press conference before the test results were reported.
– via [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888941-dubs-dynasty-plot-20"]Ric Bucher @ Bleacher Report[/URL]


[URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888941-dubs-dynasty-plot-20"]A Gobert-for-Green[/URL] deal meets salary-cap trade requirements, and the Jazz would get a former Defensive Player of the Year for the reigning one. The Warriors, meanwhile, would get a younger (and physically more imposing) one. [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888941-dubs-dynasty-plot-20"]Several executives consider moving Green as something the Warriors should at least consider, whether it is for a proven talent or a potential one[/URL].
– via [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888941-dubs-dynasty-plot-20"]Ric Bucher @ Bleacher Report[/URL]




[URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888941-dubs-dynasty-plot-20"]While league sources stopped short of referring to the relationship as “irreconcilable,” they did confirm that Mitchell remains unhappy with Gobert.[/URL] That poses a potential problem for the Jazz because Mitchell will enter the fourth year of his rookie contract next season and is eligible to sign a long-term extension. If he doesn’t, he becomes a restricted free agent in 2021 and an unrestricted free agent a year later.

– via [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888941-dubs-dynasty-plot-20"]Ric Bucher @ Bleacher Report[/URL]

Can't see them wanting Green. They'd want their lottery pick

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/04/28/utah-jazz-deemed-afterthought-emmanuel-mudiay-steal/[/URL]

[QUOTE][h=1]Utah Jazz: Once deemed an afterthought, Emmanuel Mudiay was a FA steal[/h]

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end of the bench isn't exactly what I'd call a steal

[QUOTE]His rebirth on the court helped the Jazz in a major way but may have hurt their chances of re-signing him during the summer. Utah doesn’t own his Bird Rights and can only sign him with cap space.


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so he's probably gone. Need a 4

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/04/29/utah-jazz-greatest-trios/2/[/URL]

[QUOTE]The reason they get an honorable mention here is because their two playoff runs were preceded by three seasons of 30 wins or less. That’s a rarity in Utah Jazz culture and ultimately keeps them out of the top five.


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The worst franchise in the league before these guys saved the franchise :facepalm
[QUOTE][h=2]Rudy Gobert, Donovan Mitchell, Ricky Rubio, 2017-2019[/h]

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:roll:

[QUOTE]Frankly I should have put [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kirilan01.html"]Andrei Kirilenko[/URL] in there since him and Okur were interchangeable as the third and fourth best players on the team.


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AK was probably the 2nd most important player on the team

[QUOTE][h=2]Karl Malone, John Stockton, Mark Eaton, 1986-92[/h]

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Eaton! :oldlol:

[QUOTE]This trio only reached the conference finals once, in 1992. It’s fun to imagine how far they could have gone if Eaton was born a few years earlier and his prime years coincided better with his All-Star teammates.


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Imagine if Eaton had been gone sooner since they were better after he was gone

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/04/30/utah-jazz-latest-trade-rumors-offer-different-directions/[/URL]

[QUOTE][URL="https://bleacherreport.com/users/3199091"]Ric Bucher[/URL] of Bleacher Report details a potential Gobert/Green swap in his [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888941-dubs-dynasty-plot-20"]latest article[/URL], while [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/users/330978"]Greg Swartz[/URL], also of Bleacher Report, [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2889066-the-perfect-trades-to-land-nba-stars-their-ideal-sidekicks"]proposes[/URL] a large haul of [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanth01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Thomas Bryant[/URL], Rui Hachimura, [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/robinje01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Jerome Robinson[/URL] and [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithis01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Ish Smith[/URL] in return for the 2x Defensive Player of the Year.


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Maybe. I'd want their lottery pick as well

[QUOTE]One keeps you competitive in the wild Western Conference, while the other bumps you down the pole significantly.


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Can't see them remaining competitive without Rudy unless they get another of the top players in the league which I don't see happening. There are only a few that can carry a team at both ends like he can and Draymond nor Mitchell are among them. Can't see them doing anything but tanking without Rudy.

“The thing I keep hearing is the whole competitive advantage idea,” said one player on a team that could resume individual workouts next week. “If we open up half the teams’ facilities when it’s safe, what’s a team like Brooklyn going to do? That’s a question because I certainly have no idea what that looks like.” [URL="https://theathletic.com/1787314/2020/05/01/only-half-of-nba-teams-can-get-back-in-the-gym-and-these-are-the-rules/"]According to the league’s tracking of state-by-state government orders related to the virus, the Suns, Nuggets, Magic, Hawks, Pacers, Timberwolves, Hornets, Cavaliers, Thunder, 76ers, Grizzlies, Rockets, Mavericks, Spurs, and Jazz all live in states where stay-at-home orders will expire on or before May 8[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1787314/2020/05/01/only-half-of-nba-teams-can-get-back-in-the-gym-and-these-are-the-rules/"]Sam Amick and Joe Vardon @ The Athletic[/URL]

[URL="https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/where-things-stand-with-the-2019-20-nba-season-and-how-it-impacts-knicks/313371372"]Opposing teams are keeping an eye on the situation in Indy because the club will likely have to commit significant money to Victor Oladipo in the summer of 2021 if it wants to keep him.[/URL] The Pacers will be able to exceed the cap to sign Oladipo. But it would take a significant financial commitment from Indy to keep the foursome of Oladipo, Sabonis, Brogdon and Turner intact.
– via [URL="https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/where-things-stand-with-the-2019-20-nba-season-and-how-it-impacts-knicks/313371372"]SportsNet New York[/URL]


[URL="https://*********.com/rumors/#"][URL="https://*********.com/storyline/victor-oladipo-extension/"]ESPN reported that the Pacers and Oladipo had talks about an extension before the season but concluded it was best to table the talks. Per SNY sources, [/URL][URL="https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/where-things-stand-with-the-2019-20-nba-season-and-how-it-impacts-knicks/313371372"]at one point in the extension talk between the club and Oladipo, the idea of a four-year extension for around $80 million was broached. Discussions about an extension didn’t progress much from there, sources said[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/where-things-stand-with-the-2019-20-nba-season-and-how-it-impacts-knicks/313371372"]SportsNet New York[/URL]
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Now he's someone that might actually be able to carry the team at both ends if you think he can return to form. Get Turner as well

[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2020/5/2/21245414/if-the-nba-playoffs-ever-return-the-utah-jazz-could-be-a-dark-horse-contender-rudy-gobert[/URL]


[QUOTE][h=1]If the NBA Playoffs ever happen, the Utah Jazz could be a dark horse contender[/h]


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no chance. Don't have the pieces. Be better off if they reduce the amount of playoff teams and they get lucky in the lottery

[QUOTE]What had me most excited about this season was the makeup of the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz[/URL]. It’s perfect for the playoffs. With [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/298006/rudy-gobert"]Gobert[/URL] on the floor the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz [/URL]will always be in the game defensively. With the spread floor they have with shooters like [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/296477/bojan-bogdanovic"]Bojan Bogdanovic [/URL]and [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/251424/joe-ingles"]Joe Ingles[/URL] on the wings, and [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/298013/donovan-mitchell"]Donovan Mitchell[/URL] and [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297138/mike-conley"]Mike Conley[/URL] penetrating, the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz [/URL]will be able to manufacture points.


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points won't be the problem. Defense will be. Good luck next season without Rudy! :facepalm

[QUOTE]There’s a scenario where the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Utah Jazz[/URL] would become the team everyone predicted, it just never got a chance to happen.


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No there's not. THey lack size outside their centers. The defense has dropped off too much

[URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/05/03/former-utah-jazz-big-man/"]Perhaps counterintuitively, one person not caught up on every episode that’s aired thus far is one of Jordan’s former Bulls teammates, Mike Brown.[/URL] While Utah Jazz fans know and love the “Brown Bear” for the five seasons he spent in Salt Lake City as a backup big man, he actually spent the previous two years — the first two of his NBA career — with Bulls, back in 1986-87 and ’87-88.
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/05/03/former-utah-jazz-big-man/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]


[URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/05/03/former-utah-jazz-big-man/"]“Jordan was a good guy, down to earth. I just felt bad for him because he really couldn’t go anywhere he wanted to — because people just went crazy when they saw him,” Brown said.[/URL] “He would have to go to the supermarket 15 minutes before it closed and make a deal with management that he could shop longer than the store hours, because he couldn’t just go in like a normal guy.”
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/05/03/former-utah-jazz-big-man/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/05/03/utah-jazz-derrick-favors-reunion-possibility/[/URL]

[QUOTE]One center who will be a free agent this summer is [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/favorde01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Derrick Favors[/URL] — a former Utah Jazz player who is absolutely beloved by the entire fanbase. Fans have hoped for a reunion all season long, but is it something that could realistically happen?


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Replace Millsap and than Gobert! :roll:

[QUOTE]He’s a low-maintenance player on the offensive end, finishing around the rim with ease and power. Defensively, he’s not as good of a rim protector as Gobert, but he’s just a tier below him and gets the job done with ease.


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He's not close to Rudy. There's a reason why they sucked before Rudy emerged

The Utah Jazz star — whose COVID-19 diagnosis in March was ultimately the impetus for the NBA suspending its season — was playing Call of Duty when someone went off in the comments. The remark has since been removed from Gobert’s chat history … but the person behind the comment claims it said, “Thanks for starting covid in the nba dumbass.” [URL="https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/05/rudy-gobert-covid-19-troll-denver-nuggets-nba/"]Gobert — who answers comments periodically during his gaming — stopped his avatar for a few seconds to fire back at user “gbgator” … saying, “Hey, gabo, gato, gator — go to school, p***y!”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/05/rudy-gobert-covid-19-troll-denver-nuggets-nba/"]TMZ Staff @ TMZ.com[/URL]

Tim MacMahon: Jazz executive VP Dennis Lindsey on Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“They’re ready to put this behind them, move forward, act professionally. … We’re very pleased with the collective makeup of our group, Donovan and Rudy in particular. We look forward to moving forward.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon"]Twitter espn_macmahon[/URL]

Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Dennis Lindsey said that he expects for the Jazz practice facility to be opened after the NBA’s target date of May 8 and said the team will be even more cautious than what is asked by the league or state[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]

Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Dennis Lindsey stood in solidarity with NBA commissioner Adam Silver, not wanting to say anything about specific dates, ideas, or scenarios. Said that he will support resuming play if it can be done safely and only then[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]

Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Dennis Lindsey noted the importance of “giving the players some hope we’re going to try to salvage a part of the season.” He said if it can be done safely, he is all for determining a league champion, even if it’s as a result of a truncated season[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Dennis Lindsey said the players miss each other and the competition. The team has been staying connected via zoom workouts, and everyone on the roster has participated[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]

Eric Walden: Dennis Lindsey praised coach Quin Snyder for keeping “the engagement of the team going.” [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mitt Romney addressed the team a few days ago. Said all facets of the team’s leadership have been in constant contact, that player development and bench coaches are working well together[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The loss of revenue is definitely something that the Jazz and most specifically their CFO and financial team have been paying attention to, but as Dennis Lindsey said. “The long and short of it is that we don’t know what the salary cap will look like.” Too many uncertainties[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]

Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Dennis Lindsey made note of his confidence in Adam Silver’s leadership. Called Silver a “modern leader” and said that the commissioner has asked for everyone to bring their best ideas every time there has been a meeting/call[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]

Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Dennis Lindsey said that with no playoffs ongoing and with no Chicago combine to attend, he and the members of the front office have been doing extra video work and statistical modeling in preparation for the NBA Draft, whenever that might be[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Utah Jazz are offering refunds and credits to season ticket holders for the 2019-20 season[/URL]. As for the 2020-21 season, for those who are on a payment plan, a deferment of March’s payment was offered but not April and no word on May. For those who have paid in full, no word
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2020/05/06/utah-jazz-five-worst-trios/[/URL]

[QUOTE]They had many moments of brilliance, whether it was [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqxrrv1eg2Q"]a baseball pass that went the full 94 feet[/URL] from [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stockjo01.html"]John Stockton[/URL] to [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/malonka01.html"]Karl Malone[/URL] in the NBA Finals, or a high lob tossed from [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rubiori01.html"]Ricky Rubio[/URL] snagged out of the stratosphere and into the basket by [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/goberru01.html"]Rudy Gobert[/URL].


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yeah Ricky could really throw those lobs! :wtf:

[QUOTE]It’s remarkable that a small market franchise like Utah has only missed the playoffs only twelve times out of a possible 40 tries. Only eight times have the Jazz won less than 50 percent of their games in a single season since being moved to Utah.


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you do know that at one time only 7 teams didn't make the playoffs each year?

[QUOTE][h=3]Number Five[/h][h=2]Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors, Rudy Gobert, 2014-16[/h]Playoff Appearances: Zero
All-Stars: Zero
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thanks for the tanking! :rant

[QUOTE]Believe it or not, this team actually had the sixth best offense in the NBA during that shortened season, fueled by a healthy dose of Al Jefferson’s back-to-the-basket post moves.


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yeah that was fun to watch :sleeping

[QUOTE][URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jeffeal01.html"]Al Jefferson[/URL] scored 19.2 points per game in his first full season as the focal point of the Jazz offense. He also led the team in minutes per game, usage percentage, and shot attempts per game, clearly being the best player on the roster.


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Millsap was clearly to me. Jefferson never made sense with him there already

[QUOTE]Yet most of his heroics have gone unappreciated in Jazz Nation due to the mediocrity of the team during his short stint in Utah.


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building a team around him was the main reason they were mediocre

[QUOTE][URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millspa01.html"]Paul Millsap[/URL] and Gordon Hayward were two future All-Stars in waiting, and fit in nicely as second and third options at the time. A lack of coaching and a lack of a reliable point guard hurt this group, but ultimately their ceiling wasn’t much higher than a first round exit.


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I'd say the coach did a great job to get them to the playoffs almost twice

[QUOTE]This “Big 3” wasn’t big enough to have sustained success in the NBA, and Dennis Lindsey allowed both Jefferson and Millsap to walk away in free agency as soon as he took over general manager duties.


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Imagine if they'd kept their best player :rant

[QUOTE]Simply put, this team wasn’t designed to be very good in the first place by the front office. It was by virtue of Jerry Sloan’s sheer coaching greatness that they were able to win 42 games and stay in the playoff hunt up until the very end of the season.


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AK carried them. You can win with one player like that. Harpring missed most of the year

[QUOTE]Not only was this team bad on both sides of the ball, but they didn’t have an identity to fall back on, much less a trio they could remotely call a “Big 3”.


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their identity was tanking. Did a great job of it. Too bad Rudy ruined their great plans :bowdown: