2022 off season Post Gobert. A new era begins

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/09/espn-breaks-just-filthy-rich-utah-jazz-now/[/url]

[QUOTE]Two years ago, the Jazz had the best regular season in the NBA. Since then, they have had two disappointing playoff losses, and will probably post one of the worst records in the league in 2022-23. But with their draft capital, they could turn it around in as fast as a year or two. The Pistons, Spurs, Hornets, Pelicans, and even the Grizzlies were middling teams for several years hoping to finally make it big in the draft, and the Jazz could manage to do it in a single season if only one of their four picks hits big. Even if two of the picks result in average players, the rebuild will be over fast.

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unlikely to be only a year or two though it was only a bit over a year when Gobert emerged and they were good though of course the Jazz still tried to tank despite that! :cry:

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/09/jarred-vanderbilt-front-center-rebuild/[/url]

[QUOTE]What’s not to like? A 6’9” power forward, and former McDonald’s All-American, he slipped to the second round in the 2018 NBA Draft and has played for the Nuggets and Wolves. Last year, he started 67 games for the playoff-bound Wolves alongside Karl-Anthony Towns, Patrick Beverly, Anthony Edwards, and D’Angelo Russell. Because of the roster around him, he only posted 6.9 points, which is up from his career average of 5.4 points per game.

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old school 4 in today's game. Plenty not to like which is why he's on the Jazz and all NBAer/DPOTY/future HOFer Gobert is on the Wolves

[QUOTE]While he isn’t a star by any means, he has already established himself as a decent fourth or fifth option with the starting rotation and is only 23 years old, so he could still show some vast improvement. The Lakers want him as a cheap player to get some valuable bench minutes, but the Jazz see him as a piece to help solidify a young core around the star they will eventually find in the draft.

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probably won't be starting and at 7 points a game he's hopefully not your 4th or 5th option

[QUOTE]Vanderbilt is not a shooting threat by any means, but as a starter, he averaged well over eight rebounds and can defend multiple positions anywhere on the floor. The Jazz are in desperate need of defense, especially behind a depleted frontcourt.

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they were desperate for D. Now they are just desperate

[QUOTE][INDENT]I truly believe with the addition of Jarred Vanderbilt the [URL="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lakers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]#Lakers[/URL] would have the best defense in the [URL="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]#NBA[/URL].

With players such as AD, Beverley, Vanderbilt and Bron (when he wants). [URL="https://t.co/Oe04BDQNsC"]pic.twitter.com/Oe04BDQNsC[/URL]
— Lakers Vino (@VinoUncorked) [URL="https://twitter.com/VinoUncorked/status/1568094382192054285?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]September 9, 2022[/URL]
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why would anyone think that Davis and Lebron will be on the floor? They need a 3rd star to carry them when those guys aren't playing.

[QUOTE]The Lakers also want some additional defensive prowess. On top of that, Vanderbilt is already an above-average role player with elite physical gifts. His size and grace on the court suggest that he could soon be one of the most consistent starters in the league.

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where do you come up with this shit? Yes he's young and can play but nothing screams out NBA starter even if he did start last year on a play in team. Unless he develops a shot he's a backup ideally

[QUOTE]I don’t think that he will ever be an All-Star, but he is [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/07/26/utah-jazz-3-players-break-next-season/"]poised for a breakout[/URL] year and could show the league that a power forward can play third fiddle to an elite backcourt. Every team needs some role players, and the Jazz found a great one before they even get their star.

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the guy rebounds and plays D. Let's not get carried away. If the Lakers want to give up unprotected picks for him see ya! :cheers:

[QUOTE] Zach Lowe: [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/02qH92woqxqG4Gdc0FdS3U"]The second package is Clarkson-Bogdanovic-Beasley. From what I’ve been told around the league, the Jazz feel like all three of those guys are worth a first-round pick[/URL].

– via [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/02qH92woqxqG4Gdc0FdS3U"]Spotify[/URL]


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ideally but Bojan, Clarkson, Conley and Gay need to go before the season starts regardless. Beasley can stay at least until the trade deadline

[url]https://twitter.com/spidadmitchell/status/1568620551257702404[/url]

Looks good! Can't wait to see Sexton, Lauri and the rook in the ugly new unis!

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/10/23338818/utah-jazz-getting-excited-about-collin-sexton[/url]

[QUOTE]Nobody is perfect, and there are certainly some concerns, as there are with almost every player. Sexton’s 3-point shooting efficiency has steadily decreased over his time in the NBA and he hasn’t always lived up to his defensive potential.

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not counting the 11 games last year he's still shot over 37% from 3 and his overall % has went up so he's became better at finishing and/or mid range. What kind of defensive potential does he have at 6'1? If he gives any kind of effort at that end he'll be better than Mitchell

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/9/10/23346661/latest-utah-jazz-trade-rumors-jazz-reveal-trade-value-for-bogdanovic-clarkson-and-beasley[/url]

[QUOTE]If there’s one thing we’ve learned this offseason, once Danny Ainge sets a price for a player, he’ll stick with it. If a team is willing to pay that price, then the trade will happen. It’s been such a breath of fresh air this offseason to see Danny Ainge provide a dominant level of negotiation with the Jazz, and there’s a level of comfort knowing that if the Jazz’s price isn’t met, the trade doesn’t happen.

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we'll see. I think it's better they aren't on the team than waiting for Danny's price. Beasley can start the year with the Jazz. The others need to go somehow

[QUOTE]This also bodes very well for the future. Danny Ainge has put a value on assets and picks that the front office beforehand hasn’t had. If you don’t remember, the Jazz’s two previous offseasons were the death knell for the most recent roster. The Jazz traded a first-round pick just to get off of Derrick Favors contract after giving him a contract no other team would have given. They made draft-day trades of their picks to the [URL="https://www.postingandtoasting.com"]Knicks[/URL], only to see the Knicks use the exact same picks to move up in the draft (maybe that’s why the Knicks thought they could fleece the Jazz for Donovan Mitchell). They decided to draft a center in the first round that no one had in their mock earlier than the second round, in stead of drafting Desmond Bane. There are a lot of reasons the most recent iteration of the Jazz didn’t work out, the catastrophic failures of the recent leadership were likely the biggest reason of all.

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and they still had no starting PF! Stop with the Bane stuff already. They needed a center. Right now you are seeing why you need to be developing guys at every position all the time. Udoka showed he can play last year. Now you go into the season with some experience. If you want to argue there was a better 5 than Udoka fine. Bane would have sat the bench and you would have wished they picked someone else

[QUOTE]I hope Jazz will trade JC instead to Bulks. Coz Lebron doesn't bode well with Clarkson's game.Their chemistry, even though they're friends, didn't really fit well in their last stint together in the Cleveland playoffs. And Bulks really needs a reliable scorer on the bench. [/QUOTE]

Clarkson's game sux for anyone. If they fleece a 1st from someone for him Ainge should get executive of the year

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2022/9/10/23343610/an-in-depth-look-at-the-utah-jazzs-talen-horton-tucker-nba-los-angeles-lakers-2022-23[/url]

[QUOTE]In his fairness, I don’t think his role with the Lakers was conducive to his success. He just isn’t a good shooter and expecting him to succeed at doing so was setting him up for failure. Nonetheless, for THT to have any success with the Jazz, he [I]must [/I]improve this aspect of his game. Even if he can become an average shooter, his ability to create off the dribble will become significantly easier. As it stands, most teams in the league are happy with ignoring him on the perimeter.

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expecting him to become an average shooter is asking a lot. He's awful!

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/10/ranking-utah-jazz-rookies-2022-23-season/[/url]

[QUOTE]Kessler, Juzang, and Agbaji all had decorated college careers, but with the exception of Agbaji, none of them were considered lottery picks by anyone. None of these guys have a super high ceiling, mostly due to the fact that they may have already physically peaked, but that doesn’t mean the role players for the next era of Utah basketball haven’t already been signed.

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two were picked higher than Rudy so stop predicting what they will be

[QUOTE]His sophomore year was better than his junior year, and that lack of improvement is a big red flag for me. Apparently, it is for Utah as well, as he is the only player on a two-way deal, instead of the standard rookie contract. Maybe time with the G-League Stars will help him out, but I’m afraid Juzang just isn’t at the NBA level, and he may never get there.

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Sneed? He looks like an NBA player. See if he can show something with the Stars. They should be good this year!

[QUOTE]Fontecchio is not a defensive stopper, and with the modern NBA wing being a “three and D” type of player, I’m not confident he will be able to make the leap and defend with any sort of success. Still, shooting 40% from deep allowed Kyle Korver to thrive in the league, maybe Simone can have a similar story.

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unlike most Euros he actually has some decent stats and has continued that in the Euro championships. He might get them a 1st by the trade deadline!

[QUOTE]In his most recent college season, he averaged 4.6 blocks. That’s good enough o put him second in the country. He also put up 11.4 points, and much like the departed Stifle Tower, none of those came from behind the arc.

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he shoots the 3

[QUOTE]Kessler did not play in the Summer League, so we don’t have that insight, although it’s safe to say he will succeed if he can play to his strengths. He will never become an elite scorer like Embiid or Jokic, and he is not the best rebounder considering he stands at 7’1”, but he is a fantastic rim protector who could get some rebounding skills and work in the pick and roll with Collin Sexton. We think he might [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/07/09/3-starting-center-options-utah-jazz-2022/"]crack the starting five[/URL], but expect him to be raw and error-prone, with the occasional flash of potential in season one.

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can't see him over Udoka unless Udoka is hurt. Still need a vet in case Kessler isn't ready and to mentor these guys though that could be Lauri. Kessler is a Star until he proves otherwise. No reason to rush him

[QUOTE]There’s no other way to say it: he can score. In the Summer League, he didn’t miss a beat, shooting 37% and averaging a cool 15 points. The Jazz may have found the point guard of the future to pair with Collin Sexton, meaning they can add forwards and centers in the upcoming drafts.

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don't think he's a pg though is he? You think Stanley Johnson is a 2 so what do you care I guess!

[QUOTE]Agbaji is ready to play now. There shouldn’t be too much of a learning curve. He can score, pass, and handle the ball. His defense isn’t bad. It’s clear he was a steal with the 14th pick, and he fell into Utah’s lap.

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from what we saw with COTM no one is ready now. At least we don't have to worry about Hardy favoring players from his alma mater like with COTM. Maybe after the trade deadline he can step in for Beasley

[QUOTE]With Agbaji, what you see is what you get. And what I see is a dominant scorer who can do a little bit of everything and has a lengthy NBA career ahead of him.

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18 points a game and 1.6 assists is a dominant scoring pg!

[url]https://*********.com/lists/traded-nba-draft-picks-gold-magic-johnson-barkley/?itm_source=parsely-api[/url]

[QUOTE][INDENT] [B]August 5, 1976[/B]: The New Orleans Jazz traded a 1977 1st round draft pick (Kenny Carr was later selected), a 1978 1st round draft pick (Freeman Williams was later selected), a 1979 1st round draft pick (Magic Johnson was later selected) and a 1980 2nd round draft pick (Sam Worthen was later selected) to the Los Angeles Lakers for a 1977 2nd round draft pick (Essie Hollis was later selected) and a 1978 1st round draft pick (Jack Givens was later selected). This exchange was arranged as compensation for Utah signing veteran free agent Gail Goodrich on July 19, 1976.
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Ouch! He almost helped them get to .500. The Maravich trade was even worse. Gave up everything to suck with Pete!

[QUOTE]The Warriors are once again involved with trading away a draft pick that turned into gold, as in 1980, the team dealt away the rights to the No. 3 pick the day before the draft to the Boston Celtics, a pick that wound up becoming Hall-of-Fame big man [B]Kevin McHale[/B].

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no mention of the Jazz passing on McHale for Dr. Dunkenstein!

[QUOTE]If it isn’t clear by now, teams are [I]much[/I] safer about trading away first-round picks these days.

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unless Danny "unprotected picks" Ainge is involved!

Lauri Markkanen had an enormous game against Croatia, helping his team get to the quarter-finals and making history along the way. [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1389587/lauri-markkanen-finland-croatia-eurobasket-2022/"]He had 43 points – a new Finnish national team record at a major FIBA event – 9 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, and 19/29 from the field, with 0 turnovers[/URL]. “It was one of those nights in which it looked like I shot the ball and it always went in. Great win, I’m just trying to do what the team needs me to do. We knew that we can beat everybody when we play our best basketball: Croatia is a great team”, he said.

– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1389587/lauri-markkanen-finland-croatia-eurobasket-2022/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]





After all thanks to Markkanen’s game, Finland managed to make the Eurobasket quarterfinals for the first time since 1967 and he is happy to do it, not only for himself and his team but also about Petteri Koponen who led Finland back to respectability before Markkanen and he is still along for the ride: [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1389587/lauri-markkanen-finland-croatia-eurobasket-2022/"]“When I made the team in 2015 it felt great and unreal to being in the same locker room with him. For him to say that, it means a lot. He’s a legend”[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1389587/lauri-markkanen-finland-croatia-eurobasket-2022/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]

Italy over Croatia and Jokic as well!

Former Jazz player [URL="https://*********.com/lists/international-transactions-log-where-are-former-nba-players-going/"]Kyrylo Fesenko signed for 2022-23 with Kuwaiti team Al-Nasr SC[/URL].
– via [URL="https://*********.com/lists/international-transactions-log-where-are-former-nba-players-going/"]Alberto De Roa @ *********[/URL]

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/11/jazz-asking-price-malik-beasley-might-high/[/url]

[QUOTE][h=1]The Jazz asking price on Malik Beasley might be too high[/h][/QUOTE]

I'd set the price high on him. As long as they don't feel he will be a bad influence on their young guys he's young enough to keep around. Start him and play him big minutes and deal him at the trade deadline. Conley, Clarkson, Bojan and Gay need to go at whatever price!

[QUOTE]When the[URL="https://thejnotes.com/"] Utah Jazz[/URL] traded Rudy Gobert for picks and players, most of us assumed the players would not be here for very long. Patrick Beverly has already been shipped to Los Angeles for young talent, but Jarred Vanderbilt seems to be [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/09/jarred-vanderbilt-front-center-rebuild/"]a part of the Jazz rebuild[/URL] and could play in SLC for quite a while.

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I wouldn't get too attached to Vanderbilt or anyone yet

[QUOTE]Rookie Walker Kessler and Leandro Bolmaro are very young and might fit the timeline, but 25-year-old [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/beaslma01.html#all_transactions"]Malik Beasley[/URL] might be the next recent acquisition to go. The only issue is Utah seems to think he is [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10048497-nba-trade-rumors-jazz-think-bogdanovic-clarkson-beasley-are-worth-1st-round-picks"]worth a first-round pick[/URL].

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the only issue is they have other guys they need to move more urgently

[QUOTE]The Jazz have the most picks out of anyone to finish this decade, but you can never have too much of a good thing. As far as tradable players go, Clarkson and Bogdanovic are the two most desirable players on the Jazz, and Beasley is probably a distant third.

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and Conley is easily better than any of them

[url]https://valleyofthesuns.com/2022/09/11/phoenix-suns-jazz-picks/[/url]

[QUOTE]Bogdanovic has been linked most with Phoenix in recent weeks, with the Croatian currently playing with Suns big man Dario Saric at Eurobasket. He’s certainly worth a first-rounder, however it may be lottery, or at least top 10 protected.

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Saric is probably one of the pieces coming to the Jazz

[QUOTE]Clarkson will probably accrue a first-round pick as well, though that isn’t a guarantee. If Utah want a first for Beasley, then they may be best waiting until close to the trade deadline mid-season. It’s hard to envisage a team being desperate enough right now, but that may change as the season develops.

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not sure how desperate you have to be to want to improve your team. Gambling on the bum Clarkson is desperate. Jazz know!

[QUOTE]Still, it’s unlikely they’d necessarily give up two first-round picks for a combination of the above players. Rather, perhaps they’d heavily lower the protections, or even rid them all together. Would the Suns give up Jae Crowder, Dario Saric, Torrey Craig and Josh Okogie, along with a fully unprotected future first-round pick, for Bogdanovic and Clarkson?

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don't love the guys they have. Too old! But if that's what you have to do to get rid of Clarkson do it!

[url]https://factoryofsadness.co/2022/09/10/the-utah-jazz-may-have-blown-the-donovan-mitchell-trade-to-the-cleveland-cavaliers/[/url]

[QUOTE]To say the Mitchell trade reminds me of the Jarrett Allen trade would be an understatement. Once again teams get next to nothing for something and[URL="https://factoryofsadness.co/2022/09/08/the-cleveland-cavaliers-can-no-longer-afford-to-trade-cedi-osman/"] the Cavs are far better for it.[/URL]

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3 former lottery picks and 3 unprotected 1sts isn't exactly nothing. Jazz will win this trade big!

[QUOTE]So personally, I don’t think you could go wrong with either package but I do think the Cavs’ offer had a lot more talent in it, while the Knicks offered a better draft package. Some agree with this, some don’t but what can’t be argued is that the Jazz did bungle this trade; because while both t[URL="https://factoryofsadness.co/2022/09/09/what-should-the-cleveland-cavaliers-starting-5-look-like/"]rade packages were fine, neither was truly great.[/URL]

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Getting a comparable player to Mitchell who is 2 years younger and makes 60 million less is great without the rest. Ainge did good. Could have done better early on it sounds like though

[QUOTE]By all accounts, the Knicks screwed themselves out of a trade by playing chicken with the Jazz and the Jazz took a deal that quite honestly, isn’t that good from the Cavs. They’ll likely move Markkanen, and then hope they land a top draft pick in 2023 or 2024, otherwise, they’re really screwed.

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I'm sure Lauri is available along with the rest of the roster. Cavs still have a small backcourt and a guy that doesn't play D or pass masquerading as an all star. Have fun Cleveland! :cheers:

Ben Anderson: Justin Zanik said the @Utah Jazz realized after the season that the organization had limited ways to improve other than significant trades. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Cited a “lack of cap space and lack of upside” for the trades, he called the Jazz “tapped out” of assets[/URL]. #TakeNote | @kslsports
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]




Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Utah Jazz CEO Danny Ainge said when he came in midseason and started observing the team, he began to feel “they didn’t really believe in each other.”[/URL] Said discussions with others in front office revealed the same. He added there was individual resolve but not collective resolve.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

[QUOTE]NBA on ESPN: More changes for the Jazz may be on the way [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“They still have Bojan Bogdanovic, Jordan Clarkson, Mike Conley. The sense around the league is that the Jazz at least feel that they have deals for all of those veteran players.”[/URL] – @Ramona Shelburne

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good to hear. Can always stretch Gay

This statement from Towns came when prompted by CBS Sports to ease any panic from Wolves fans about pairing up with Rudy Gobert, who the Jazz traded to Minnesota for multiple draft picks this offseason. After all, both players are centers, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. “I think [URL="https://www.foxnews.com/sports/timberwolves-karl-anthony-towns-says-he-one-best-offensive-players-nba-history"]I’m one of the best offensive players and talents the NBA has ever seen.[/URL] So putting us together gives us really a whole spectrum of talent to use,” he said.
– via [URL="https://www.foxnews.com/sports/timberwolves-karl-anthony-towns-says-he-one-best-offensive-players-nba-history"]Scott Thompson @ FOXnews.com[/URL]





[URL="https://www.foxnews.com/sports/timberwolves-karl-anthony-towns-says-he-one-best-offensive-players-nba-history"]“I’ve sacrificed at every level. I’ve sacrificed narratives of me,” he said. “I’ve sacrificed possibly being the No. 1 pick in college when I fully accepted the platoon system. You know, no one else does that[/URL]. “I sacrificed everything. I’ve sacrificed my life. I’ve sacrificed time with my mother. I’ve sacrificed public opinion of me. All for the betterment of my team, my teammates, their lives what they’re trying to accomplish.”
– via [URL="https://www.foxnews.com/sports/timberwolves-karl-anthony-towns-says-he-one-best-offensive-players-nba-history"]Scott Thompson @ FOXnews.com[/URL]

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/9/12/23348496/slc-dunk-podcast-do-the-jazz-have-a-potential-star-in-lauri-markkanen[/url]

He'll be gone by the trade deadline. Hopefully focus the offense around pick and pop with Sexton and Lauri

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/12/ranking-the-9-players-utah-traded-for-this-summer/[/url]

[QUOTE]Unlike Manu Ginobili, this Argentine-Italian will not have a Hall of Fame career. If he does, it would be the most shocking career in NBA history. With Utah’s current roster, he might get real minutes just to see what he’s capable of, but I would expect him to get lost in the depth chart. He has three years left on his contract, so clearly, someone believed in him at one point, but I suspect he will be making a return to Europe in the next few years.

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do you guys actually watch basketball or look at some stats only? He looks like a ball player to me. Need to fix the hitch in his shot but he's young and does a lot on the floor. You can see the Ginobli, Nocioni etc. in him for sure. Should be with the Stars to start the year probably and he did play well in the Gleague briefly last year

[QUOTE]I have Jarred Vanderbilt projected to be the starting power forward for the Jazz, and even though Johnson is a similar scorer to Vanderbilt, they are not comparable players. Johnson lacks strength and physicality, preventing him from being an elite rebounder. Why did the Jazz take him? It’s simple: the[URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/08/25/winners-losers-of-the-utah-jazz-latest-trade/"] Lakers just wanted him gone[/URL].

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Lauri should be the starting 4 I'd think but I guess he could be at the 5 especially if Udoka goes down again. Lakers liked Johnson. Like Bev a lot more naturally. Hopefully Johnson can get them something by the trade deadline

[QUOTE]Allow me to be clear: until three or four years ago, I only followed the San Antonio Spurs. Before that, I did not pay much attention to the NBA as a whole, just the team and players I was a fan of. Since then, I’ve added to my repertoire a lot, but my knowledge of recent NBA history is lacking.

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and you're writing this crap on a Jazz site now. Makes perfect sense :facepalm

[QUOTE]While we think Walker Kessler might end up in the [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/04/updated-jazz-depth-chart-donovan-mitchell-trade/"]starting five[/URL] and is one of the better rookies on the roster, there are several more experienced players who rank above him, at least for now. Kessler’s ceiling is a Jakob Poeltl-type player, who is a decent rebounder, an okay scorer inside the paint, and a monster at protecting the rim. His floor is a Jahlil Okafor clone, who is just too slow to play in the league and is unable to space the floor.

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one of their two 1st rounders will be one of the better rookies on the roster, really? He does shoot the 3. Nothing like Okafor who to his credit slimmed down and became more suited to today's game

[QUOTE]The Jazz have their second option in Sexton, a passing guard in Agbaji, and then their anchor in Vanderbilt. All they need is a superstar. At 22 years old Vanderbilt could improve significantly, but even if he doesn’t, he’s a solid NBA player and will [URL="https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/jazz-think-highly-jarred-vanderbilt/"]be with the Jazz for a long time[/URL], and is a central part of their rebuild.

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the guy that has averaged 24 a game already by 23 is their 2nd option? Agbaji is moving right to the starting lineup against experienced guys? Vanderbilt is starting because he did last year?

[QUOTE]Beasley has had some [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30965255/minnesota-timberwolves-malik-beasley-suspended-12-games-guilty-plea"]legal trouble in the past[/URL], but that has never affected his on-court play, and since then he has cleaned up his act. If Utah keeps him, he and Clarkson will be a lethal bench unit capable of combining for well over 35 points each night. Beasley is exactly the type of guy you want off the bench: efficient, good at his role, and willing to stay in his lane.

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Clarkson better be gone soon! Beasley is the starter until the trade deadline id he's still around in a couple weeks

[QUOTE]Not only is Agbaji the third-best player Utah traded for, but he is also Utah’s [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/10/ranking-utah-jazz-rookies-2022-23-season/"]best rookie[/URL] entering the season. The 14th overall pick led the Kansas Jayhawks to a March Madness victory, shooting 40% from three to score 18.8 points per game. His resumé precedes him:

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the only lottery pick is their best rookie. Some hard hitting analysis

[QUOTE]If the Jazz can add a star in the 2023 NBA Draft, Agbaji, Sexton, Kessler, and Vanderbilt could be an excellent supporting cast that could be immediate contenders. Agbaji spent four years at Kansas, so he is [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/09/03/ochai-agbaji-best-part-mitchell-trade/"]NBA-ready now[/URL].

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immediate contenders!

[QUOTE]When most players hit the league, there is a bit of a learning curve. That won’t be the case for Ochai, as he shot 37% from the deeper NBA three-point line in the Summer League, and put up comparable numbers to his college ones.

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Not one rookie came in under COTM and was ready. Maybe that will change under Hardy but with young vets on the team and the Stars down the highway a few minutes I can't see him not starting out with the Stars. Be in the roation after the trade deadline when he's hopefully ready

[QUOTE]Oh, and he’s also lighting it up this summer in international play. The best Finnish baller ever, Markkanen could be a fringe All-Star for the next several years and is a great secondary scorer on a good team. A knockdown shooter, his game doesn’t really have any flaws, and he could even be due for a resurgence and enter the 20ppg club anytime soon.

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fringe all star! How will they successfully tank with all this talent aboard?

[QUOTE]I’m hoping the Jazz manage to get Victor Wembanyama, partly because he’s a generational talent, and party because the floor spacing with Sexton would be immaculate.

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he's too big. Scoot or bust!

[QUOTE]Sexton combines the volume scoring and efficiency of Mitchell with the hot hand that Jordan Clarkson occasionally gets. When Sexton starts to feel himself, there’s really no stopping him.

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Mitchell is now efficient too!

[url]https://hoopshabit.com/2022/09/11/utah-jazz-prospects-worth-tanking/3/[/url]

[QUOTE]This will actually be Henderson’s second go-around in the G League. He debuted for the team last May and quickly showed what he’s capable of, dropping 31 points against the Santa Cruz Warriors in only his second game. At just 17, Henderson dominated the league. He averaged 14 points, 5 rebounds, 3.6 assists, and 1.7 steals per game. He hit 45 percent of his field goal attempts and knocked down 77 percent of his free throws.

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not what I'd call dominating but nice for a 17 year old!

Eric Walden: Collin Sexton said he isn’t sure how the deal with the Jazz came about, his agent and the teams put the deal together. Said he just took his agent’s advice to stay ready. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Said he is 100% healthy now[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]




Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ochai Agbaji said he already knows Jared Butler from their time competing against one another in the BIG-12.[/URL] Back to back NCAA champions joining the @Utah Jazz and both NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Players. #TakeNote | @kslsports
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]






Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Both Collin Sexton and Ochai Agbaji say they expect they’ll enjoy Utah because they’re outdoorsy types. Agbaji said he even went hiking yesterday.[/URL] Asked what trail he was on, he laughed and admitted, “I have no idea!”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

[QUOTE] Christos Tsaltas: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert vs Italy 19 points, 8-11 FG, 3-4 FT, 14 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, 28 efficiency in 34 minutes.[/URL] He did it all for France and led his team into a huge victory over Italy (93-85) in overtime. France advanced to the #EuroBasket 2022 semifinals. #FRAITA #RaisedbyWolves

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tsaltas46"]Twitter Tsaltas46[/URL]




Dionysis Aravantinos: Rudy Gobert in two knockout games with France against Turkey and Italy: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]19.5 PPG, 68.0 FG%, 15.5 RPG, 2.0 APG, 0.5 SPG, 0.5 BPG. Clutch in both overtimes[/URL]. France in the EuroBasket semifinals.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/AravantinosDA"]Twitter AravantinosDA[/URL]


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must be getting some help finally! :cheers:

Clutch Points: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell has arrived in Cleveland [/URL] (via @Cleveland Cavaliers) pic.twitter.com/iZ432mfUcf

[INDENT][url]https://sports.yahoo.com/jazz-rookie-ochai-agbaji-reacts-182613952.html[/url]

[QUOTE]Transitioning to here, having more opportunities and more chances to see the floor and make more of an impact; just keeping the same mindset. Continuing to better myself and impact the team in positive ways and be successful here.[/QUOTE]
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might have played more for the Cavs at least early on. I see a lot of guys ahead of you until you prove otherwise and until some of them are moved. Leading the Stars to start the year!

[QUOTE] Chris Fedor: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]#Cavs Donovan Mitchell says he thought he was going to New York this offseason but is thrilled to be in Cleveland. He also said market size and location is not what matters, it’s about winning[/URL].

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor"]Twitter ChrisFedor[/URL]





Chris Fedor: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]#Cavs Donovan Mitchell said he was golfing when he first found out and admitted to running around like crazy — in part because of the players the Cavs were able to keep out of the trade and what he thinks the organization can accomplish[/URL].

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor"]Twitter ChrisFedor[/URL]






Chris Fedor: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]#Cavs Darius Garland and Caris LeVert are here in the front row for Donovan Mitchell’s introductory press conference[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor"]Twitter ChrisFedor[/URL]






Serena Winters: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell on working out with Darius Garland: “I consider myself a pretty good shooter, but he’s right there if not better…He makes me have to raise my level in a workout.” #Cavs[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/SerenaWinters"]Twitter SerenaWinters[/URL]

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not going to be much winning if you only play one end of the court and don't pass. If you stopped taking the deep 3's where you're at 18% you might be a pretty good shooter but 36 % isn't pretty good these days

[QUOTE] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-8m9QFt65k&ab_channel=ESPN"]“It feels like they have a lot more business to do. The question is when do they do that business,” Ramona Shelburne said. “They still have Bojan Bogdanovic, Jordan Clarkson, Mike Conley.[/URL] The sense around the league is that the Jazz at least feel they have deals for all of those veteran players – if and when they want them – where they would return a first-round pick for each of these kind of players. But my sense in talking to people close to these conversations is the Jazz are not in any hurry to make these decisions now.”

– via [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-8m9QFt65k&ab_channel=ESPN"]YouTube[/URL]





[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-8m9QFt65k&ab_channel=ESPN"]“I was actually assured by somebody close to the situation the other day that if this group gets out there and plays well, if they start off well, they’ll let them play,” Ramona Shelburne said.[/URL] “There’s a reset going on and they have players and veterans that have value to teams that are trying to contend this year. But if this group that they have right now – with the new coach Will Hardy and the young players they got that they’re very high on – if they start out well, they’re going to let them play a while. They’re not in any hurry.”

– via [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-8m9QFt65k&ab_channel=ESPN"]YouTube[/URL]

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They all need to be gone before camp starts if you have deals for them. No reason to bring any of them back at this point

League sources indicate a market for Bogdanovic at the very least, of which there is significant interest for the 6-foot-8 shooting forward. But, the [URL="https://theathletic.com/3593016/2022/09/14/danny-ainge-jazz-news/"]Jazz at this point don’t appear to be particularly close to a trade that could land them even more assets and consolidate the roster, although there are ongoing talks with the Los Angeles Lakers[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/3593016/2022/09/14/danny-ainge-jazz-news/"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]

Keith Smith: Collin Sexton has $2M ($500K per season) in unlikely bonuses in his four-year deal with the Utah Jazz, a league source tells @spotrac. Cap hits are: 2022-23: $16,500,000 2023-24: $17,325,000 2024-25: $18,150,000 2025-26: $18,975,000 [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]All years are fully guaranteed. No options[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA"]Twitter KeithSmithNBA[/URL]

[QUOTE] [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/14/23353633/donovan-mitchell-cleveland-cavaliers-utah-jazz-trade"]“All summer, I didn’t really say much … I thought for sure I was going back home, I’m not gonna lie about that,” Mitchell said,[/URL] “but when I found out where I was headed, who I was playing with, the group, the team, the coaching staff, I couldn’t be happier to be here, to be a part of this organization, be a part of this group, to join these phenomenal guys and add to it, and I think that for me is what I’m truly excited about.”

– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/14/23353633/donovan-mitchell-cleveland-cavaliers-utah-jazz-trade"]Ryan McDonald @ deseret.com[/URL]





[URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34593315/donovan-mitchell-pushes-departure-utah-jazz-adamant-cleveland-cavaliers-really-build-special"]Donovan Mitchell disagrees that the now-broken-up Utah Jazz core “didn’t really believe in each other” as team CEO Danny Ainge said earlier this week[/URL]. “I don’t think we didn’t believe [in each other],” Mitchell told ESPN Wednesday on his first day in Cleveland as a Cavalier following a Sept. 1 trade. “I said at the end of the season, don’t trade [Rudy Gobert]. Let’s figure this out, let’s do. And that didn’t happen. For him to say that after six months around the team, I disagree. But you know, at the end of the day, that’s his decision.”

– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34593315/donovan-mitchell-pushes-departure-utah-jazz-adamant-cleveland-cavaliers-really-build-special"]Brian Windhorst @ ESPN[/URL]


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should have moved Mitchell for vets and tried again

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50475245/patrick-kinahan-bravo-to-ainge-for-being-bold-about-jazz-roster[/url]

[QUOTE]What's the definition of insanity — doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? Yes, the Jazz would have been crazy to run back the same broken record again, all the while trying to again convince us Mitchell and Gobert were good buddies.

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that insanity got Stockton and Malone to the finals. How about trying a new coach instead?

[url]https://kslsports.com/492585/jazz-fontecchio-misses-free-throws-gobert-france-advance/[/url]

[QUOTE]Fontecchio had been a breakout star for the Italians averaging 19.4 points per game, good for eighth-best among all EuroBasket performers while shooting an extremely efficient 49 percent from the floor and 45 percent from the three-point line.

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ROTY?

[QUOTE]Fontecchio was the last Jazzman competing at EuroBasket after [URL="https://kslsports.com/492050/new-jazz-forward-markkanen-dominates-at-eurobasket/"]Lauri Markkanen[/URL] and Finland were eliminated by Spain on Tuesday in the round of eight.

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so I guess he'll be in town soon too?

[url]https://kslsports.com/492550/danny-ainge-anticipating-more-exciting-basketball-from-jazz/[/url]

[QUOTE][I]SALT LAKE CITY –[/I] One day after his [URL="https://kslsports.com/492479/ainge-jazz-really-didnt-believe-in-each-other/"]unfeigned press conference[/URL] on why the Utah Jazz traded two All-Stars this summer, Danny Ainge said he’s anticipating “[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0DstQ7DXk8&feature=emb_title"]more exciting basketball[/URL]” from the team this season.

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losing exciting! :facepalm

[QUOTE]“I don’t anticipate that our team is going to win as many games as we’d won,” Ainge admitted, “but I believe that it’s going to be more entertaining and more exciting basketball.”

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they had the number one offense in the league. More exciting and entertaining than that?

[QUOTE]“[We have two] first-round picks, one a lottery pick, we have a kid in [Lauri] Markkanen who’s had a fantastic summer this summer and just had 43 points and a big win, Talen Horton-Tucker — dynamic 21-year-old player,” Ainge said. “I think there’s a lot to be excited about. I’m excited about this team.”

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talen shooting less than 30% from 3 should be exciting!

[url]https://kslsports.com/492540/sexton-agbaji-happily-embracing-new-home-with-jazz/[/url]

[QUOTE]Having spent four seasons at Kansas and being named the NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player after leading the Jayhawks to the national title, Agbaji likely carries the biggest expectations of any Jazz rookie into training camp.

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Long term sure. Right now Simone is probably one of the top rookies in the league

[QUOTE]Whereas in Cleveland Agbaji may have struggled to see the floor on a team that is likely to compete for the playoffs, the rookie will get plenty of playing time to develop his game for the Jazz this season.

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not seeing it currently

[url]https://kslsports.com/492488/jazz-fontecchio-clutch-play-stuns-nba-mvp-italy-tops-serbia/[/url]

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/14/23353957/nba-executives-on-danny-ainge-jazz-ceo-blockbuster-trades-rudy-gobert-donovan-mitchell[/url]

[QUOTE]“It’s not going to be like it was in Boston for Danny,” the league source told Heavy. “He really hit on some of those picks he got, but, remember, they also got (Al) Horford and (Gordon) Hayward to come there as free agents. I know Hayward didn’t work out like they wanted; that injury was tough. But those guys were top free agents. I think Danny’s going to find it harder to attract big time free agents in Utah.”

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hit on the picks and worry about that later

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/14/23339963/utah-jazz-went-from-best-record-to-rebuild-in-a-hurry[/url]

[QUOTE]It seemed like it was going to work and the Jazz were clicking. It really came together in the Orlando bubble and looked like the Jazz could be in for a deep playoff run before they [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/9/1/21410326/utah-jazz-denver-nuggets-game-7-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-nikola-jokic-jamal-murray"]blew a 3-1 series lead[/URL] to the Denver Nuggets in the opening round of the 2020 playoffs.

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with COTM making no adjustments. He should have been gone. We have no idea what another coach and some tweeks to the roster might have done

[QUOTE]The front office surveyed the landscape and didn’t overreact. It was the first season that this iteration of the Jazz had been together, they were missing Bogdanovic in the playoffs after he had surgery to repair a ligament in his wrist and it was all during the infamous pandemic season — nothing about it was normal.

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still not sure they weren't better without Bojan

[QUOTE]There was something there though, so the Jazz ran it back. They re-signed Clarkson, gave max extensions to Gobert and Mitchell, [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/25/21718627/derrick-favors-utah-jazz-nba-trade-free-agency-new-orleans-pelicans-return-feels-like-home"]brought Derrick Favors back[/URL] into the fold and went after it all again.

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right there they had a chance. Sign a starting 4 instead of a backup center and let Clarkson go

[QUOTE]But misfortune struck when injuries to Conley and Mitchell [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/5/18/22428792/utah-jazz-injuries-donovan-mitchell-and-mike-conley-turned-into-jazz-assistant-coaches"]hampered the team[/URL] in the postseason and the Los Angeles Clippers exposed the Jazz’s weaknesses.

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Mitchell forcing his way on to the floor over a team doctor's advice. That right there tells you what a big part of the issues were

[QUOTE]Not only was the spirit of the players heavily damaged by that loss, but it seemed that head coach [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2022/6/5/23153271/quin-snyder-stepping-down-makes-way-for-a-new-voice-in-the-utah-jazz-locker-room"]Quin Snyder[/URL] didn’t take the loss very well either.

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That's on him considering he once again refused to make any adjustments as Lue tried everything

[QUOTE]The 2021-22 season, was entered with tempered hope. The Jazz still wanted to contend, but the core of Mitchell and Gobert had continually got the Jazz to the playoffs only for them to eventually lose steam and get bounced in one of the first two rounds. There wasn’t enough that was different, there wasn’t enough that was improved and the Jazz’s options were limited.

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they've had lots of options. They chose badly from the time Gobert first emerged

[QUOTE]While it feels like it was just yesterday the Jazz were riding a high at the top of the league, it also feels like it’s been ages since they had a real shot of contending for a title. The hope is that the next shot is not too far down the road and that the journey ends with a better result.

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I think they had a shot at the Bucks. They matched up well with them. COTM and Mitchell's selfishness didn't give them that chance

[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/9/14/23354242/end-of-the-drama-for-the-utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-on-the-trade-and-the-dominance-of-danny-ainge[/URL]

[QUOTE]The first interesting point was that Donovan Mitchell was apparently “shocked” by the Royce O’Neale trade and mentions how he was his best friend. That right there makes it clear that Danny Ainge and the [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com"]Utah Jazz[/URL] were all in on the rebuild at that point. The days of making signings like they did for Eric Paschall were over.

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need young vets like him. Him and Forrest would have been good to have around

[QUOTE] Which, by the way, we should be surprised at from recent comments by Ainge, but we’ll get to those in a second. It was at this point that I’m sure Donovan Mitchell knew that Danny Ainge and company were doing what was best for the Jazz. It was the right thing too, this Jazz team had bent over backwards to make things work for Donovan Mitchell and in the end it wasn’t good enough. If we’re being honest, it was never going to be good enough. Mitchell obviously had his sights set on other places, mainly New York, and he all but confirms it in this interview.[/QUOTE]


trade him for vets. Hire a new coach. Dump Clarkson. Get a starting 4. One of the best teams in the league

[QUOTE]So Ainge got to work. What we were told was that Quin Snyder resigned and the Jazz “couldn’t get him to sign an extension.” Sure, we’ll play along with that little story. But we’re going to give Ainge credit for the transition from Snyder to Will Hardy. Remember Will Hardy? Feels like ages ago he was brought on.

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Not sure what happened there but the fact that COTM still had a job two seasons after the bubble fiasco was a joke! Can't give Ainge any credit for that

[QUOTE]He then traded Royce O’Neale for a 1st round pick from Brooklyn. After that he made the Rudy Gobert trade. Is that what we’ll call it? It needs a name because it was such a monumental haul it put every move in the league at a standstill. The aftershocks were so strong and longlasting it played a big part in keeping Mitchell from an easy ride to New York.

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and the Jazz likely lose that trade

[QUOTE]It’s absolutely worth a listen. Clarkson mentions how it hurt what happened with the trade and that “maybe one of the sides gave up.” I’m not quite sure if he’s talking about the Jazz or one of the players, but it’s a reminder that Clarkson is a great teammate and he truly cared about this Jazz team.

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he cares so much he completely ignores them when the ball is in his hands! :cry:

[QUOTE]Whatever happens this summer with Clarkson, he’s been a great ambassador for the team and if he’s part of the rebuild, that’s fantastic. If not, you can be he’ll have Jazz fans rooting for him wherever he ends up.

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I'm just rooting that he's gone in the next week and half along with the other vets

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2022/9/13/23352009/utah-jazz-off-season-trades-mike-conley-bojan-bogdanovic-jordan-clarkson[/url]

[QUOTE]It’s a little surprising that all three of them have made it this far into September without being traded yet, honestly. It might just be a matter of time, or when Ainge and Zanik can work out the best possible deals and continue to get as much draft capital as possible. Ainge talked a little bit yesterday about the 2023 draft class, and actually mentioned 2024 being “even better”. The Jazz have 19 players on roster right now, which obviously will need to be trimmed down in some way before the season begins. If you like trades and draft picks, this has been your summer!

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2024 is even better! :cheers:

[QUOTE]I did a minutes analysis based on pure speculation and what I found is that the Jazz are currently sitting at 10 players on the roster listed as guard. There are 144 potential minutes available for the 1-3 with 3 guys who can't play guard likely to share some of those minutes at the 3 (Sim1 is primarily a 3 while Vando and Lauri can both play either the 3 or 4)

I feel like it's safe to assume that Sexton is going to get significant minutes, as many as 30 mpg, if Conley, Beasley and JC remain in Utah they're all likely to get 20+ mpg and between Sim1, Vando and Lauri at least half of the minutes at the 3 will be taken. Leaving roughly 30 minutes per night to spread between Agbaji, THT, NAW, Butler, Bolmaro and JJ.

So in answer to your question, keeping JC primarily takes minutes from those 6 players.[/QUOTE]

Agbaji and Bolmaro can start in the Gleague but Clarkson, Bojan, Conley and Gay need to be gone in the next week and a half!

[QUOTE]I’m taking that as he has offers set up that set the floor of what they can get back. Bet he’s waiting for teams to get into training camp and hoping another team may get more desperate if their roster didn’t improve the way they hoped. That would then allow Danny to lever the asking price higher. If it doesn’t materialize, he can go back to his previous offer. [/QUOTE]

Take the best offers you can before camp. What you lose in a trade is gained by the young guys getting all the reps

[QUOTE]Hearing Ainge talk about how the 2024 draft is better than 2023, I think he means depth wise. No player in 2024 is as hyped as Scoot and Wemby. But there is this real chance that the age restriction gets lowered and you get more depth than a usual draft. So it almost seems like Ainge isn't even thinking about the #1 or 2 pick. [/QUOTE]

the age limit might be why he's saying it's better. 2023 is supposed to be very deep

[QUOTE]2. the nba scouting was bad at identifying high school talent but was too afraid to miss out on then next kobe or whoever[/QUOTE]

they didn't like scouting high schools and it was a lot easier to judge a guy that played a year of college than beat up on high school talent. One and done was bad for basketball

[QUOTE]NIL deals may make the college route more attractive for top stars.


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probably not for the top guys but it should certainly have a huge affect on things. If you're only going pro for the money you can stay in college now

[QUOTE]I think the holdup for the trades isn't the price or protection, but the draft year. If they think 2024 is going to be equal or better than 2023 then they should be targeting at least 1 guaranteed pick 2024 pick[/QUOTE]

Shouldn't matter. Get the picks when you can. Can always trade them for a pick in another year. Most of the picks won't end up on the Jazz

[QUOTE]As long as we're bad enough to not send OKC a pick in 2024 (and maybe 2025). Even better if MIN and CLE are even worse than UTA.


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yeah right!

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/9/13/23350718/a-bright-future-for-ochai-agbaji[/url]

[QUOTE][INDENT] Spence asks Tony to guess which current Jazz player will have the longest tenure:

"Ochai Agbaji. If the Jazz had a 1RP, he would of been at or near the top of their draft board. The front office really really liked him and he's the type of 2 way athletic wing they haven't had"

— Dunzo (@Dunzod) [URL="https://twitter.com/Dunzod/status/1568358344993423360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]September 9, 2022[/URL] [/INDENT][/QUOTE]

that would be the smart guess anyway. Lottery pick from this year. He's bigger than Mitchell. Sounds like he's a better playmaker. Shot better. Got to play better D! They could end up with two guards at least better than Mitchell

[QUOTE]Bane measured at 6’-5” height, 6’-4” wingspan, 216 lbs coming into the draft. He had better and more consistent high school and collegiate shooting numbers than Ochai Agbaji.

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6'4 wingspan tells me he was never on the Wizard's radar especially since they needed a center and got one and he will likely be starting at the 5 this year. That's why you drafted him

[QUOTE]It’s an excellent sign that the Utah Jazz front office and coaching staff are high on Agbaji. He profiles to start some guys and be a staple of the bench rotation during various points of the season.

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he should start for the Stars. Too many young vets ahead of him

[QUOTE]Initially, we should expect Jared Butler and Ochai Agbaji to lead the 2nd unit but should things unfold favorably in production and opportunity, Ochai could be starting often to exclusively by season’s end.

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look at the roster. Why would we expect that? They have a Gleague team for a reason