Jordan 69 pt game vs Kobe 81 point game

[QUOTE=Heavincent]Kobe was playing within the realm of the offense for most of the first half...but it wasn't working at all. They were down nearly 20 to the Raptors at one point. The Lakers came back when Kobe started playing hero ball.[/QUOTE]

All Im saying is that if he doesn't go into that hero mode, he probably doesn't shoot that many times...much more indivdual play in the Kobe game than the Jordan game, but u can't knock him, dude was blazing hot...even me a Jordan guy knows peak "on fire"... Kobe is more dangerous cause the long ball.

I think I'll actually take Kobe's 81. Maybe if Jordan's didn't take OT I would give him the edge.

I don't see why people are bitching about Kobe's game that much. Who cares? Its literally the one comparison Kobe wins over Jordan :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Money 23]Son, I've seen Kobe's career come and go.

I was on the boards rooting for him time and time again ... believe me I'm objective when it comes to Kobe.

And watched him disappoint over and over in the playoffs and Finals. The most memorable Kobe games from the playoffs were his 48 v.s. the Nuggets in the 1st round in 2008, and his 50 against Phoenix in game 6 in 2006.

That's it. He just hasn't had many solo legendary games in the playoffs. Kobe / Laker stans still clinging to a self indulgent regular season game from 2006. It's pathetic.[/QUOTE]

48/16 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Spurs in 01
50 vs the Suns in 06
49/10 vs the Nuggets in 08
40/6/3 on 60% vs the Rockets in 09
Averaged 34/6/6 on 48% in the 09 WCF (2 40 point games in this series)
40/8/8 vs the Magic in the 09 Finals
Averaged 34/8/7 on 52% vs the Suns in 2010 WCF

Those are just a few of his memorable playoff games. He has a shitload of 30+ point performances. Top 3 all time in that category I think. lol at him not being a great playoff performer. Just laughable.

[QUOTE=Heavincent]48/16 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Spurs in 01
50 vs the Suns in 06
49/10 vs the Nuggets in 08
40/6/3 on 60% vs the Rockets in 09
Averaged 34/6/6 on 48% in the 09 WCF (2 40 point games in this series)
40/8/8 vs the Magic in the 09 Finals
Averaged 34/8/7 on 52% vs the Suns in 2010 WCF

Those are just a few of his memorable playoff games. He has a shitload of 30+ point performances. Top 3 all time in that category I think. lol at him not being a great playoff performer. Just laughable.[/QUOTE]

Pacers in Finals his run at the end of the game

[QUOTE=guy]I think I'll actually take Kobe's 81. Maybe if Jordan's didn't take OT I would give him the edge.

I don't see why people are bitching about Kobe's game that much. Who cares? Its literally the one comparison Kobe wins over Jordan :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Yeah....cuz Lebron supposedly has so much more over Jordan than Kobe does....right?:sleeping

[QUOTE=Heavincent]48/16 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Kings in 01
45/10 vs the Spurs in 01
50 vs the Suns in 06
49/10 vs the Nuggets in 08
40/6/3 on 60% vs the Rockets in 09
Averaged 34/6/6 on 48% in the 09 WCF (2 40 point games in this series)
40/8/8 vs the Magic in the 09 Finals
Averaged 34/8/7 on 52% vs the Suns in 2010 WCF

Those are just a few of his memorable playoff games. He has a shitload of 30+ point performances. Top 3 all time in that category I think. lol at him not being a great playoff performer. Just laughable.[/QUOTE]
None of those were legendary performances, kid. Some great performances no doubt, but nothing awe inspiring.

Not an individual game in that lot that serves as a memory. That is a microcosm of who Kobe Bryant was as a player. Something we will always remember him for ... a stamp on NBA playoff / Finals history.

No the way Kobe stans and the moronic latin cholo Laker fan base percieve Kobe's reputation as a player on a self indulgent 81 point regular season game.

You listed a damn series in there haha ... in the vast majority of these cases, given Kobe's team, he was the favorite in the series.

There wasn't a series of events where Kobe overcame some obstacle and just did something no one would've expected.

The closest Kobe has EVER come in recent history to a truly memorable and legendary performance was in the 2010 Finals. Boston was roughing them up, showing signs they were the better team (and w/ Perk, I think they were) ... he had that STUNNING 19 point 3rd quarter.

And that's when I said "wow, the self entitled black mamba is finally going to do his venomous 81 point thing in an actual MEANINGUL game with something on the line" ... and then he didn't duplicate it in the 4th. And failed to meet legendary expectations once again.

That was his opportunity. To seperate himself and become a MEMORY. The way we remember past legends stand out games in a HIGH pressure and intensity atmosphere. But he blew it. That year given his physical abilities was the last time he'd be able to do it on an EPIC scale against a very difficult opponent. That opportunity is gone.

The most lasting Kobe legendary memory is how he took over in the final minutes for Team USA in the gold medal game in 2008. And they wouldn't have even been in the game if it wasn't for the clutch-ness of D-Wade through 3 quarters.

All those games you mentioned, no casual or even regular NBA fan lists those as [B]LEGENDARY[/B] games. I get it, that's your guy. And he's easily the 2nd greatest SG of all-time. But please, hop off his d1ck ... lay off and stay off.

I'd go so far to say even Jerry West has had more truly legendary type performances in the playoffs or Finals. Elgin Baylor as well.

[QUOTE=chazzy]The value/impact of ~15 rebounds certainly changes when it's a Jordan or Kobe game, huh?[/QUOTE]
12 more rebounds + 4 more assists + 1 more steal + 1 less turnover > 12 points

Kobe played 42 mins and Jordan played 50 mins. Their PER36 statline would be like this;
Kobe - 69.4/5.1/1.7/2.6/0.9 (69/5/2)
Jordan - 49.7/13.0/4.3/2.9/0.7 (50/13/4)

[QUOTE=LakersReign]Yeah....cuz Lebron supposedly has so much more over Jordan than Kobe does....right?:sleeping[/QUOTE]
:wtf: what the Hell is your issue? Who the **** brought up Lebron :oldlol: ?

[QUOTE=guy]:wtf: what the Hell is your issue? Who the **** brought up Lebron :oldlol: ?[/QUOTE]

So......we're suppose to believe that you dissin' Kobe in comparison to Jordan(like [B][U]ALL[/U][/B] Lebron fans do) has nothing to do with you, being a bandwagon Lebron fan....huh? Riiiiiiiiiiiight:rolleyes:

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[QUOTE=Xplicit]Jordan x1000.

How can say with a straight face that Kobe's was more impressive? You people saying that are the same ones complaining about the rules today against defending wing-players. You complain about how guys like Wade and Lebron have it so easy nowadays without handchecking.. yet you totally fail to mention that Jordan scored his 69 with guys physically abusing him all game. Kobe would NEVER score 69, let alone 81, in Jordan's day with the same handchecking rules. NEVER[/QUOTE][url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15422[/url]

Try again:no:

[QUOTE=LakersReign]So......we're suppose to believe that you dissin' Kobe in comparison to Jordan(like [B][U]ALL[/U][/B] Lebron fans do) has nothing to do with you, being a bandwagon Lebron fan....huh? Riiiiiiiiiiiight:rolleyes:

Oh, and by the way....Page 1:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15422[/url]

Try again:no:[/QUOTE]

I'm not a Lebron fan at all.

[QUOTE=guy]I'm not a Lebron fan at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=guy]Address my points with something more then "nemesis". Fact is the Lakers BIGGEST threat going into the 09 season, the defending champion Celtics that wiped the floor with them the previous season, had their chances go up in flames due to injury. The 09 Celtics were a much bigger threat to the 09 Lakers then any team, including the 12 Bulls and 12 Magic, was in 2012 to the Heat. Address the fact that those Celtics beat the Lakers the year before while none of the teams you brought up for the Heat beat the Heat the previous season. Address the fact that a team that took the Lakers to 7 games did it without their 2 best players. Make a sound argument against that would justify discrediting only Lebron's run and not Kobe's run as well. If you can, I will have no problem saying I'm wrong.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276131&page=16[/url]

Uh huh:rolleyes:

So...I guess the reason why you're the only person on the planet trying to compare the Lakers '09 season to Lebron 2012 season, was cuz you had nothing better to do then....huh? Try again:no:

[QUOTE=LakersReign][url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276131&page=15[/url]

Uh huh:rolleyes:

So...I guess the reason why you're the only person on the planet trying to compare the Lakers '09 season to Lebron 2012 season, was cuz you had nothing better to do then....huh? Try again:no:[/QUOTE]
How does that prove he is a Lebron fan? :oldlol:

Learn how to read:sleeping

[QUOTE=LakersReign]Learn how to read:sleeping[/QUOTE]
Damn, LeBron has Reigny straight SHOOK. LBJ is ALWAYS on this guy's mind, talk about paranoid:oldlol:

[QUOTE=LakersReign]Learn how to read:sleeping[/QUOTE]
You changed the thread link and the quote, anyways that doesn't make him a fan, saying Lebron's 2012 run was better than Kobe's 2009 run is the consensus. So if that makes him a Lebron fan then just about everyone is a Lebron fan.