[quote=Scoooter]:lol :lol[/quote]
:rolleyes: :hammerhead:
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[quote=Scoooter]:lol :lol[/quote]
:rolleyes: :hammerhead:
[QUOTE=G-train]Watch the gif then. He doesnt land simultaneously on his 2 feet, he picks up his dribble and takes 2 steps, or a jump stop with feet not landing at the same time. Then he takes another step through the defence.[/QUOTE]
Jumpstops can be ambiguous because of how players integrate the gathering of the ball. I maintain that Hakeem's move was legal (and sweet).
[QUOTE=G-train]:rolleyes: :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol:
Jump stops are not ambiguous. You simply must land both feet at the same time.
[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall][IMG]http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2726214/erge-o.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
didn't even lose the defender. this is great footwork? just aimlessly pivoting?
lol @ Kobe's move being proven legal while half of MJ's moves ITT are blatant travels. apparently planting your pivot foot didn't apply to him. they already let him shuffle a LOT before he'd make his dribble move (see first gif) but I didn't realize how much he moved his pivot feet till now. Was looking through the highlights of his Nets game in '98 because I remembered some great moves in it, but all I ended up with was travels:
[IMG]http://oi56.tinypic.com/o7j23t.jpg[/IMG] (MJ might as well patent this travel, and this is one of the less obvious cases)
[IMG]http://oi54.tinypic.com/281dduc.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/jfytl0.jpg[/IMG] (more obvious on baseline angle)
Kobe seems to keep it much tighter and travels a lot less.
Fatal9, didn't you swear to leave the forum forever if the Lakers lost to Dallas? What happened to that? :oldlol:
[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]Fatal9, didn't you swear to leave the forum forever if the Lakers lost to Dallas? What happened to that? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I can't find that thread brah? lol @ you getting mad because of MJ's sloppy footwork.
here, watch a true footwork master at work:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FpzQiERt8I[/url]
Most stars travel, thats the NBA. Entertainment. And I'm cool with it cos its entertaining and consistent. If you take 4 or 5 steps you get called most of the time. 3 steps? rarely.
[QUOTE=Fatal9]I can't find that thread brah? lol @ you getting mad because of MJ's sloppy footwork.
here, watch a true footwork master at work:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FpzQiERt8I[/url][/QUOTE]
lmao @ "sloppy footwork" because of a few slowed down gifs, one of which isn't even a travel (the spin).
Double lmao @ your feigned ignorance regarding your vow to leave the forum if LA lost, which many people saw. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]lmao @ "sloppy footwork" because of a few slowed down gifs, one of which isn't even a travel (the spin).[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about how much he used to shuffle his feet before putting the ball on the floor (usually coupled with a head/ball fake or jab step), not the spin.
I can see what Phil meant when he said Kobe is more skilled.
[QUOTE=Fatal9]I'm talking about how much he used to shuffle his feet before putting the ball on the floor (usually coupled with a head/ball fake or jab step), not the spin.
I can see what Phil meant when he said Kobe is more skilled.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=Jacks3]No you're thinking of the game in 03-04. That game happened in 02-03. It's on YT. Mac destroys Bryant and Kobe immediately demands the ball, brings up court, blows by Mac and dunks on the entire Magic team. Shit was badass. :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Didn't mac win this game with a far less talented team.. ?
[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]:roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
Jordan stans delusional. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]It's a really close call. Refs let that one slide sometimes. And Kobe pulls it off in a convincing way without shuffling his feet like say LeBron that makes it look legit.[/QUOTE]
So I was correct on that move being funky.. I thought it was a travel as well but didn't know the exact rule.. Either way I wouldn't call it.. The league allows guys to take four steps on some plays.. :D
[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]So I was correct on that move being funky.. I thought it was a travel as well but didn't know the exact rule.. Either way I wouldn't call it.. The league allows guys to take four steps on some plays.. :D[/QUOTE]
No, cause you're allowed to leave your feet if going up for a shot.
I maintain it's not a travel.
Especially some of these moves in real time. Sure there is slight movements on a lot of these players feet, especially in SLOW motion.
But nothing concrete enough in real time for it to be noticeable ... thus not being a real travel.
It's not as blatant and glaring as people with terrible foot work, such as LeBron James, where you can clearly point it out in real time, etc.