Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=All Net]Dwight is the main focus so Bynum wont be traded there but doesn't mean the hornets don't still want him.[/QUOTE]
If LA gets Dwight... wouldnt CP3 play with Amare and Anthony? Who else would the Lakers have to REALISTICALLY trade for Paul?
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=Nets fan 93]If LA gets Dwight... wouldnt CP3 play with Amare and Anthony? Who else would the Lakers have to REALISTICALLY trade for Paul?[/QUOTE]
If LA gets Dwight, which would be more appealing to CP3 signing an extension?
[LIST][*]Melo and Amar'e on the Knicks[*]Kobe and Dwight on the Lakers[/LIST]
I'd choose the Lakers in that scenario, as they'd give me the best chance to win a ring in the immediate future.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=JohnnyWall]If LA gets Dwight, which would be more appealing to CP3 signing an extension?
[LIST][*]Melo and Amar'e on the Knicks[*]Kobe and Dwight on the Lakers[/LIST][/QUOTE]
There are other factors.
1. He is friends with the duo in NY.
2. He is a ball dominant gaurd just like Kobe.. so.. it's something he will definitely think about.
Other than that it is pretty close.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=JohnnyWall]If LA gets Dwight, which would be more appealing to CP3 signing an extension?
[LIST][*]Melo and Amar'e on the Knicks[*]Kobe and Dwight on the Lakers[/LIST]
I'd choose the Lakers in that scenario, as they'd give me the best chance to win a ring in the immediate future.[/QUOTE]
Melo and Amare, since both are still in their 20s.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
I can't believe that this made it to 18 pages. There is no way this happens. Orlando or NO would likely just let the players expire rather than take back Pau.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=JohnnyWall]If LA gets Dwight, which would be more appealing to CP3 signing an extension?
[LIST][*]Melo and Amar'e on the Knicks[*]Kobe and Dwight on the Lakers[/LIST]
I'd choose the Lakers in that scenario, as they'd give me the best chance to win a ring in the immediate future.[/QUOTE]
LOL.
CP3 can't sign with the Lakers. They are already 35M over the cap.
In fact, the only way either of them are going to LA is through a trade. And there is not enough assets to make those trades.
I know this thread is mostly Laker fans drooling on themselves at the thought, and I don't blame you, this is an impossibility.
First off, you overvaluate Bynum. By a factor of 10. Several years ago he was the most promising big behind Howard. But that was YEARS AGO. Now he is a chronically injured player who has injuries that just don't heal. Your knees don't get better as you age. You can replace ligaments, etc. But the chronic tendenitis and loss of cartilage can't be replaced. If he were a free agent do you think he would get 15M+? NO WAY. Yet you are asking for arguably the best player in the world for a bad contract masquerading as a young talent. There just isn't value there with his current deal.
These are rough approx for minutes played over the last 5 years:
LBJ: 16800
Bynum: 7200
The second problem is that the Hornets are owned by the NBA. Do you think there is any way after the last three months they allow one of the two best PGs in the league to go to LA for considerably lesser value? How about if the Lakers acquire Howard. Do you think Stern would trade CP3 to a team with Kobe and Howard?? I mean Gasol is a stud but how many years does he have left at an elite level? You could argue last year was a big step backwards for him and that he is already sliding.
Lastly, if the Lakers are able to land even one of these guys do you think their draft picks are worth anything? I mean ~1/3 to 1/2 the picks at very end of the 1st rd stay in the NBA through their first deal. There is no value there at all.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
Got to be honest, I love Howard on the Lakers but not sure about Chris Paul. I think Deron Williams would be a better fit.
I don't like the idea of giving up Gasol either, just because if the Lakers were able to land Howard, he and Gasol's games would really compliment each other up front. Howard's inside presence along with Gasol's skill and ability to play anywhere on the court from inside 20 feet, along with his tremendous passing ability from the high or low post, would be awesome to watch. It wouldn't matter if Pau was soft with Howard inside for muscle.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=HurricaneKid]LOL.
CP3 can't sign with the Lakers. They are already 35M over the cap.
In fact, the only way either of them are going to LA is through a trade. And there is not enough assets to make those trades.
I know this thread is mostly Laker fans drooling on themselves at the thought, and I don't blame you, this is an impossibility.
First off, you overvaluate Bynum. By a factor of 10. Several years ago he was the most promising big behind Howard. But that was YEARS AGO. Now he is a chronically injured player who has injuries that just don't heal. Your knees don't get better as you age. You can replace ligaments, etc. But the chronic tendenitis and loss of cartilage can't be replaced. [B] If he were a free agent do you think he would get 15M+? NO WAY.[/B] Yet you are asking for arguably the best player in the world for a bad contract masquerading as a young talent. There just isn't value there with his current deal.
These are rough approx for minutes played over the last 5 years:
LBJ: 16800
Bynum: 7200
The second problem is that the Hornets are owned by the NBA. Do you think there is any way after the last three months they allow one of the two best PGs in the league to go to LA for considerably lesser value? How about if the Lakers acquire Howard. Do you think Stern would trade CP3 to a team with Kobe and Howard?? I mean Gasol is a stud but how many years does he have left at an elite level? You could argue last year was a big step backwards for him and that he is already sliding.
Lastly, if the Lakers are able to land even one of these guys do you think their draft picks are worth anything? I mean ~1/3 to 1/2 the picks at very end of the 1st rd stay in the NBA through their first deal. There is no value there at all.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I guarantee someone would sign Bynum for $15+ million as a free agent.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=lilgodfather1]I can't believe that this made it to 18 pages. There is no way this happens. Orlando or NO would likely just let the players expire rather than take back Pau.[/QUOTE]
they both want Bynum.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=YAWN]they both want Bynum.[/QUOTE]
What's your point? Bynum is an injry prone overpaid stiff. There are dozens of teams that could make better offers.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=lilgodfather1]What's your point? Bynum is an injry prone overpaid stiff. There are dozens of teams that could make better offers.[/QUOTE]
For the love of all that is good in this world--
how many times does this have to be ran around in circles
Yes, obviously any team could put together a great deal but most if not all teams will pass if Dwight isnt willing to sign an extension there.
The Magic have to realize the teams that Dwight would extend with or maybe teams willing to rent him for a year. Then from those teams look at the best offer. As of now the list of teams dwight will reportedly extend with is quite small so therefore the lakers have the best to offer from that short list (allegedly)
This is the situation as it stands. read whats been written. Stop ignoring this.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
[QUOTE=lilgodfather1]What's your point? Bynum is an injry prone overpaid stiff. There are dozens of teams that could make better offers.[/QUOTE]
Of the teams that Dwight Howard OR Chris Paul would sign an extension with, Bynum is as good of an offer that Orlando can realistically get.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
Hornets and Magic giving the lakers a superstar guard and a superstar center?
I've seen that before...
[IMG]http://www.hiphoparchive.org/files/Kobe_Hornets300.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en_fuego/files/2010/08/shaq_magic_orlando.jpg[/IMG]
lol I don't think it's possible to land them both. But Howard is likely to get traded to us IMO. And that would be enough to fight for the title again.
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
Dwight why u copy Shaq
Chris trade would be impossible there would be nobody to offer if they get Dwight.
So what could Lakers dump to Orlando?
Bynum and Lamar for Dwight?
Re: ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard
Honestly THE Clippers are going to get one of these guys and NY is getting the other.