[QUOTE=tontoz;14974934]With a day to think about this the worse it looks. This had to be an emotional/personal decision by someone high up with the Mavs.[/QUOTE]
Maybe Luka stands with Palestine.
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[QUOTE=tontoz;14974934]With a day to think about this the worse it looks. This had to be an emotional/personal decision by someone high up with the Mavs.[/QUOTE]
Maybe Luka stands with Palestine.
[QUOTE=Full Court;14974910]There was obviously something going on or the Mavs wouldn't have launched him.[/QUOTE]
so why do you assume lukas personality was the problem? :lol
mysterious luka personality issues
Why wouldn't Dallas ask for Rui or Dalton?
[QUOTE=tontoz;14974934]With a day to think about this the worse it looks. This had to be an emotional/personal decision by someone high up with the Mavs.[/QUOTE]
How does this look worse? I mean they know they are not going to offer him the extension so they have to trade him. Who else could they have received and still stayed competitive?
AD is averaging 26/12 playing the 5.... if he goes back to the role he is comfortable with and having top tier PG, the Mavs are looking good.
The biggest downside is AD's contract. He's a UFA next year...
[QUOTE=rawimpact;14974948]How does this look worse? I mean they know they are not going to offer him the extension so they have to trade him. Who else could they have received and still stayed competitive?
AD is averaging 26/12 playing the 5.... if he goes back to the role he is comfortable with and having top tier PG, the Mavs are looking good.
The biggest downside is AD's contract. He's a UFA next year...[/QUOTE]
AD is 6 years older, injury prone, and prone to taking games off even when healthy. It was a running joke one year in the playoffs that he only showed up every other game. He is a second tier player.
Luka is the best player in Dallas franchise history, just led them to the Finals at age 25 and was a MVP finalist. Of course there is the fans to think about i am sure all Dallas fans feel completely betrayed.
If you aren't going to pay the supermax to Luka then who are you going to pay? The supermax was literally created for players like Luka. The Wizards signed Beal to the supermax lol.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14974952]AD is 6 years older, injury prone, and prone to taking games off even when healthy. It was a running joke one year in the playoffs that he only showed up every other game. He is a second tier player.
Luka is the best player in Dallas franchise history, just led them to the Finals at age 25 and was a MVP finalist. Of course there is the fans to think about i am sure all Dallas fans feel completely betrayed.
If you aren't going to pay the supermax to Luka then who are you going to pay? The supermax was literally created for players like Luka. The Wizards signed Beal to the supermax lol.[/QUOTE]
This is not a long term investment... he's a UFA next year. This is short-term Win-now move. This roster isn't going to be around in 4-5 years, especially if offering Luka the supermax. Dude is going to be making 62M on his third year... that's 1/3 the team. Then you have Kyrie becoming a UFA...
Yes the supermax was created to retain star players... but one can say Luka hasn't performed like a star player when it comes to his health. I know this is a recent thing with NBA stars being overweight, but the 2000s, 2010s never had this issue with health. Star players take care of their body... Luke has not. Hard to invest in someone who wont invest in themselves.
Every f[I]u[/I]cking time the lakers look like they're about to die they either sign a generational guy or fleece the f[I]u[/I]ck out of someone in a trade, kareem was a signing, shaq was a signing, pau gasol was a fleecing, lebron was a signing, davis was a fleecing, luka was a fleecing.
Is the league doing this shit only to drive viewership so more advertising money comes through? It's rigged as f[I]u[/I]ck.
[QUOTE=Duderonomy;14974943]Why wouldn't Dallas ask for Rui or Dalton?[/QUOTE]
Christie is good and will be good, probably better than both.
[QUOTE=rawimpact;14974953]This is not a long term investment... he's a UFA next year. This is short-term Win-now move. This roster isn't going to be around in 4-5 years, especially if offering Luka the supermax. Dude is going to be making 62M on his third year... that's 1/3 the team. Then you have Kyrie becoming a UFA...
Yes the supermax was created to retain star players... but one can say Luka hasn't performed like a star player when it comes to his health. I know this is a recent thing with NBA stars being overweight, but the 2000s, 2010s never had this issue with health. Star players take care of their body... Luke has not. Hard to invest in someone who wont invest in themselves.[/QUOTE]
Luka has been 1st team All NBA the last 4 years. The FEWEST games he's played in a season is 61. Hes been pretty durable and he's been a monster in the playoffs
If you really want to trade him then at least shop around for a better deal than this. It isnt just Mavs fans thinking this was a weak return.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14974969]Luka has been 1st team All NBA the last 4 years. The FEWEST games he's played in a season is 61. Hes been pretty durable and he's been a monster in the playoffs
If you really want to trade him then at least shop around for a better deal than this. It isnt just Mavs fans thinking this was a weak return.[/QUOTE]
Who is it you think they could've gotten instead of AD, while still remaining a championship contender? Giannis? Jokic? Shai?
Bet the supermax was a large factor. Doncic is worth supermax but if you can replace him with an elite player who you don't have to pay 70 mil per to that is a big deal if your team owners care about the money. Add in that he's got a work ethic more like Shaq's than Kobe's and there are a lot of valid reasons for Dallas to do this even though they got the older player with less upside.
Luka on the Lakers feels so tacky. He is young so like CP3 on the Clippers, he could mesh with the franchise and leave a big impression. But the Lakers absolutely suck unlike Lob City.
I’m still not even used to seeing LeBron as a Laker and won’t ever remember him as such.
Terrible for the league. The Mavericks franchise died on Saturday. Luka was the lineal ****ing superstar like Magic after Kareem or Kobe after Magic.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14974973]Who is it you think they could've gotten instead of AD, while still remaining a championship contender? Giannis? Jokic? Shai?[/QUOTE]
Bro it’s 2025, not 2020. There are young monsters around the league.
Sengun, Thompson, Garland, Mobley, Holmgrem, Jalen Williams, Wagner, Banchero.
Luka is enough to get any combo of these guys AND picks.
[QUOTE=bullettooth;14974957]Every f[I]u[/I]cking time the lakers look like they're about to die they either sign a generational guy or fleece the f[I]u[/I]ck out of someone in a trade, kareem was a signing, shaq was a signing, pau gasol was a fleecing, lebron was a signing, davis was a fleecing, luka was a fleecing.
Is the league doing this shit only to drive viewership so more advertising money comes through? It's rigged as f[I]u[/I]ck.[/QUOTE]
It’s becoming clear in my opinion.
This is the most forced and obvious move yet.
One thing I will say is they did veto the CP3 trade. So it’s not all Lakers, all the time. But the timing is suspicious.
It reeks of some corrupt deal.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14974973]Who is it you think they could've gotten instead of AD, while still remaining a championship contender? Giannis? Jokic? Shai?[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Outside of Wemby, SGA, Jokic and Giannis there's nobody Dallas could've got better than AD. And none of those guys are available.