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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5469445-155/kragthorpe-could-the-jazz-miss-the[/url]
Could they make the playoffs without him would be a better question. Right now they aren't close with the moves Denver and Minnesota have made. Last place in the division looks likely. The wizard Lindsey! :rant
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684152/Analysis-Ricky-Rubios-shooting-should-concern-Utah-Jazz.html[/url]
[QUOTE] Since arriving five years ago, Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey has acquired players that fit the modern system.
But Lindsey
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/3/15917694/nba-summer-2017-league-utah-jazz-dante-exum-marcus-smart-boston-celtics[/url]
[QUOTE]He has to do only simple things now. Make the right pass. Be aggressive. Be a pest on defense. And you know, dominate.
He did it before when he outplayed Boston Celtics guard Marcus Smart. He has to do it again here. Play so well that the Jazz coaches are FORCED to shut you down for the summer.[/QUOTE]
They shut him down last time because of a sprained ankle but yeah he should be the best player out there and they can concentrate on playing the young guys once he has. Definitely be bad for him if Mitchell, Goss or Wallace out play him
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/3/15917658/nba-summer-2017-utah-jazz-joel-bolomboy-trey-lyles-jeremy-evans-derrick-favors-gobert-tony-bradley[/url]
[QUOTE]My hope for him is to become the 4th big in the Jazz rotation by season
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/3/15917602/nba-summer-2017-utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-interview-ricky-rubio-gordon-hayward[/url]
[QUOTE]Mitchell isn
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2017/7/3/15916832/nba-free-agency-rumors-2017-gordon-hayward-utah-jazz-boston-celtics-miami-heat-ricky-rubio-gobert[/url]
[QUOTE]As has already been talked about, Adrian Wojnarowski reported that the talks with George Hill broke down after he turned down a 4 year $80 million extension with the Jazz. (Man, life comes at you fast.)[/QUOTE]
Don't think we know that the Jazz offered him the max they could, I can see them trying to be cheap and him electing to be a free agent
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/3/15912848/nba-summer-2017-utah-jazz-vs-san-antonio-spurs-dejounte-murray-dante-exum-joel-bolomboy[/url]
[QUOTE]Who To Watch: Utah Jazz
The Summer Jazz are headlined by young Aussie point guard Dante Exum, Louisville standout Donovan Mitchell, G-League star Joel Bolomboy, and North Carolina center Tony Bradley.[/QUOTE]
no Wallace again :rolleyes:
[QUOTE]Who to Watch: San Antonio Spurs[/QUOTE]
No mention of Hanlan who looked good for the Jazz last year in his 1 game
[url]http://www.nba.com/jazz/bobby-hansen-make-alumni-appearance-utah-jazz-summer-league[/url]
He sucked! :lol
[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/03/utah-jazz-roster-upgrades-gordon-hayward-stays/[/url]
Why not make moves before to make it so he can't leave?
No moves if he leaves to stay relevant?
Even if they start the year in tax territory they can make moves later to get under it so they don't need to give picks away to get rid of Burks and Favors now. They already had to for Pleiss because his value was going to go up any.
Johnson should be the first guy to go to me but than I wouldn't have paid Ingles either.
Bogut is the perfect fit. Can't shoot either! :facepalm
[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/03/utah-jazz-free-agency-update-current-former-jazzmen/6/[/url]
He'd be a great fit for last year's team. Not sure what's going on now. Back in the 90's again I guess
[QUOTE]some Jazz fans had hoped and dreamed that Utah could find a way to make the appropriate moves to welcome former fan favorite Paul Millsap back into their ranks. Unfortunately, such an idea was a long-shot to begin with and likely was never truly in the cards.[/QUOTE]
Hard for me to see him picking Denver over Utah if the Jazz offered him that contract and they could have if they weren't cheap.
[QUOTE]Withey may have to battle just to make a team
Encouraging half for Dante. 3's off the dribble. A couple finishes and a great block at the rim.
Wallace looks bigger and better. He made a floater which was something he needed to work on.
Mitchell is definitely skilled. Showing a 3 ball. Getting used to the speed still with 4 fouls.
Bradley is a big kid. His shot looked decent.
Bolomboy is still too skinny and didn't look that good
Tokoto played well
No Goss? Hasn't signed his contract or they just wanted to give minutes to other guys and he'll play after Dante is shut down?
2 blocks for Bradley
Mitchell has already passed Dante. Locke was trying to say Hood would be playing but I'm not sure he'll last the year
Tokoto played a good game. Maybe he'll challenge for a 2 way deal
Griffin can fly!
Gordon Scott Hayward (Gordon
[QUOTE]Austin Horton: Not from Hayward (obviously) or the Jazz, but I
[QUOTE]Ryan McDonald: Just connected this: Saw stuff saying Gobert & Rubio didn
[url]http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44889169&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-donovan-mitchell-dante-exum-impress-in-summer-league-action[/url]
[QUOTE] had one of the best first summer league games of any player I've seen. Mitchell scored 23 points on 10-17 shooting, including 3-6 from that longer NBA 3-point line. He added five assists, and impressively for a rookie in the chaos of summer league, had no turnovers. He added two highlight-reel rebounds over the trees inside. It was an impressive offensive performance, and Mitchell looked like the best player on the floor, like he'll be ready for real NBA minutes from day one.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking maybe the best for the Jazz since Deron's 2nd summer before they shut him down. They might want to shut him and Exum down and let Goss, Wallace, etc. play instead. Looks like he could be in the mix as a starter even. Should be a lot of competition at the 1 and 2. Need help up front still though. Bolomboy didn't do much
[QUOTE]seeing new things out of Exum was promising, and it will be interesting to see how he compares to elite rookie guard prospects like Markelle Fultz of the Sixers.[/QUOTE]
More concerned on how he'll look compared to Neto, Mitchell, Hood, Burks, Ingles etc. Be gone by the trade deadline if he can't compete with them
[QUOTE]It seemed like Raul Neto and Alec Burks were going to be the only Jazz players in attendance for the game, but at the very end, Rudy Gobert and new point guard Ricky Rubio came for the final three minutes of the contest. [/QUOTE]
Didn't show Alec. The public address announcer tld the crowd they were there and didn't even mention Neto. Give the kid some respect. He can play
[url]http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44889291&nid=304&title=jazz-notes-hayward-meets-with-jazz-torn-on-his-decision[/url]
[QUOTE]The meeting went well, according to multiple media reports, and lasted about 3 and a half hours. That's shorter than Hayward's meeting with Boston and Miami, though both of those locations toured Hayward and wife Robyn around the city. That wasn't necessary with the Jazz's meeting, which took place at Hayward's home near San Diego.[/QUOTE]
They already know each other too. Shouldn't need as long
[QUOTE]That Hood was also part of the pitch is notable too, and may mean that the Jazz view Hood as an important piece of their long-term future.[/QUOTE]
Might be because if they lost Hayward he probably will be. Otherwise I think he's got a lot to prove this year too. Could be gone by the trade deadline. If Exum can hit shots and defend he and Mitchell will be ahead of him for the future. Ingles already is. Burks is certainly comparable if healthy
[QUOTE]I've heard that Gallinari represented a reasonable Plan B choice if Hayward decided to leave. But if "The Rooster" is off the market, it's not immediately clear what the Jazz's Plan C would be.[/QUOTE]
Ingles. Mitchell or Exum starts at the 2. Get a back-up center that can play some 4 when Favors gets dealt. Or a 4 that can play some 5 though I was hoping Bolomboy would be ready for some rotation minutes. None of the top back-up bigs have been signed. Go all in there. Trade Johnson and Diaw. That's what I'd look to do. Fill out the roster with some good end of the bench vets. Might be able to take on some contracts too with cap space. After December look to deal some of the guys that could be gone after the season depending on how things are going. Favors, Hood, Exum, Neto, etc.
[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5471237-155/utah-jazz-await-gordon-haywards-decision[/url]
[QUOTE]For the Jazz, retaining Gordon Hayward is all that's left.[/QUOTE]
Still need a back-up big regardless. Diaw isn't the answer
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684198/A-third-Aussie-on-Jazz-Mitch-Creek-can-use-Joe-Ingles-as-inspiration.html[/url]
[QUOTE] No worries, mate! He dribbled a pass of someone
Sounds like Hayward is off to Miami.
That was fake I guess. Word is it's Utah or Boston
[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5470758-155/kragthorpe-gordon-haywards-breakup-with-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]Maybe the Jazz's failure to agree with Hayward on a contract extension four years ago
Hopefully the Jazz show some class and hang his number when he's done playing.
[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5470829-155/utah-jazz-gordon-hayward-spurns-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]In the four years since the Jazz won 25 games and were among the worst teams in the NBA, General Manager Dennis Lindsey has taken the franchise through a masterful rebuild.[/QUOTE]
Let Millsap and Demarre go. Drafted Burke and Lyles. Traded for Rubio. Over payed Ingles. Got lucky with Rudy. Masterful?:facepalm
[QUOTE]Without Hayward, the Jazz will also rely more on fourth-year shooting guard Rodney Hood, who has the ability to be a feature scorer.[/QUOTE]
He's still a 6th man
[QUOTE]Utah also has a deep bench[/QUOTE]
Not really. Looks like the competition at the 1 and 2 might be pretty good. Thin everywhere else
[QUOTE]Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw came to Utah to be a part of deep playoff runs, and suddenly the postseason outlook for the Jazz is bleak. What happens to them?[/QUOTE]
gone if they are smart
[QUOTE]And what happens with Derrick Favors, who has one year left on his contract?[/QUOTE]
Gone as soon as he shows he can play again
I'd guess they might move Rubio too
Let the Gobert/Mitchell era begin! :cheers:
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684199/Gordon-Hayward-reportedly-set-to-sign-with-the-Boston-Celtics.html[/url]
[QUOTE]Steve Starks @StevenStarks
We trust Gordon and his agent that no decision has been made. Good communication all day and a great relationship.
1:02 PM - 4 Jul 2017[/QUOTE]
Got to think it was leaked and that he is gone
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/4/15919504/2017-free-agency-gordon-hayward-signs-boston-celtics-utah-jazz-miami-heat-danny-ainge[/url]
[QUOTE]Otto Porter the only other small forward who possibly could try to fill the void of the 1 time all-star is a restricted free agent and most expect the Washington Wizards to match. [/QUOTE]
Might be worth it to offer him the max. He's young
Steve Starks (Utah Jazz president): We trust Gordon and his agent that no decision has been made. Good communication all day and a great relationship.
[QUOTE]Spencer Checketts: Can confirm that neither Boston or Utah have been informed of an official decision from Hayward camp as of now. – via Twitter 1280Spence
Hayward hasn’t yet informed the Jazz he has decided to sign with Boston, sources told ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski. – via ESPN
Boston would now need a series of transactions to create cap space for Gordon Hayward. The Celtics would have to pull the qualifying offer on Kelly Olynyk, renounce free agents Jonas Jerebko, James Young, Gerald Green and waive the contracts of Jordan Mickey and Demetrius Jackson (or trade). – via ESPN[/QUOTE]
Jazz could use Kelly and Jerebko.
[QUOTE]Jason Jones: FYI: The third year of Hill’s contract is partially guaranteed. – via Twitter mr_jasonjones[/QUOTE]
Would have probably got more years and money if he'd signed in March
Looks like they will be one of the 5 or 6 worst teams in the west now. Hayward's replacement in the lottery next year
Hill taking 3 years/$57 million from the Kings.
Surprised he wasn't kept if that was all it took
[QUOTE=El Kabong]Hill taking 3 years/$57 million from the Kings.
Surprised he wasn't kept if that was all it took[/QUOTE]
Yep and the 3rd year is a partial guarantee.
[QUOTE]Ronald Tillery: JaMychal
[QUOTE]With Gordon Hayward now agreeing to a four-year $127M max contract, Celtics management now has a series of transactions to do in order to create cap space. The Celtics would have to pull the qualifying offer on Kelly Olynyk, renounce free agents Jonas Jerebko, James Young, Gerald Green and waive the contracts of Jordan Mickey and Demetrius Jackson (or trade).
[QUOTE]Michael Scotto: The Utah Jazz have scheduled a meeting with Washington Wizards restricted free agent Otto Porter, league sources told Basketball Insiders.
[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: Jazz GM Dennis Lindsey wishes Hayward family
Tony Jones: Confirming reports that Otto Porter is a prime target for the Utah Jazz, now that Gordon Hayward is off to Boston
[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: On Otto Porter: for Jazz to offer him, he
Stinks about Hayward, but now we'll get to see a much more featured Gobert which will be a lot of fun to watch. I'm excited for Mitchell, more playing time for him. I'm obviously bummed, but all is not lost