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[QUOTE=lilgodfather1]Honestly THE Clippers are going to get one of these guys and NY is getting the other.[/QUOTE]
I think the Clippers have a good shot at Paul. Would fit in nicely there as well.
Don't see why Dwight would go to Knicks over Lakers though. Or why Orlando would send him there, what is their offer looking like?
[QUOTE=YAWN]I think the Clippers have a good shot at Paul. Would fit in nicely there as well.
Don't see why Dwight would go to Knicks over Lakers though. Or why Orlando would send him there, what is their offer looking like?[/QUOTE]
I think it would be Paul going to NYK personally, but that is just because he apparently wants to play with his boys. Dwight going to LAC would be unreal from a FC standpoint, and Orlando would be getting a C back.
As for NYK I have no idea what they are looking like, and it's 2am so I can't look into it atm. I would imagine something including Fields, Turiaf, Billups, picks (if they have any) and taking the contract of either Okafor or Ariza back.
Orlando aren't stupid they aren't keeping Dwight in the east. They will trade him out west.
[QUOTE=lilgodfather1]I think it would be Paul going to NYK personally, but that is just because he apparently wants to play with his boys. Dwight going to LAC would be unreal from a FC standpoint, and Orlando would be getting a C back.
As for NYK I have no idea what they are looking like, and it's 2am so I can't look into it atm. I would imagine something including Fields, Turiaf, Billups, picks (if they have any) and taking the contract of either Okafor or Ariza back.[/QUOTE]
Paul is going to go where he can sign extension no matter if its the warriors....
at the end of day for these professional its all about money
[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]Paul is going to go where he can sign extension no matter if its the warriors....
at the end of day for these professional its all about money[/QUOTE]
Lately its been about teaming up with your friends lol
[QUOTE=christian1923]Lately its been about teaming up with your friends lol[/QUOTE]
but not leaving more than 10mil on the table
[QUOTE=Thechosen1][QUOTE=guy]Well ESPN would actually consider him the 3rd best. But I agree. CP3's one of my favorite players, but he's gotten somewhat overrated since that series. I've been hearing debates about who should a team go after between Howard and CP3. I don't think its a debate. [B] This isn't 2008 and 2009 CP3 anymore. He's clearly declined. Its like people completely forget the time between 2009 and the 2011 1st round series.[/[/B]QUOTE]
you mean he was clearly injured lol @ declined....cp3 is probably better than ever now that hes 100 percent...please watch his games religiously before you come to conclusions[/QUOTE]
Right. He declined cause of his injuries, which will probably never go away. He has knee issues. Its not like its a bruised elbow or something. He went from 23 ppg/6 rpg/11 apg/3 spg on 50% in his last fully healthy season in 09 to 16 ppg/4 rpg/10 apg/2 spg on 46% last year in 11. An overall great decline in numbers despite the fact that his team didn't really get much better and he was still relied upon alot. How often do players ever go through that much of a statistical decline and then fully recover from injuries and then go back to their previous numbers? Its almost never. CP3 is still great, a clear top 10 player IMO, but he's definitely not what he used to be.
[QUOTE=christian1923]Lately its been about teaming up with your friends lol[/QUOTE]
i remember in the 90s, it was about getting your own team to lead, glory for yourself
[QUOTE]No matter how badly Paul wants to join forces with Carmelo Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire, it seems clear that he realizes he can't get to New York via trade this season. [B]As a result, his new favorite destination, I'm told, is the Lakers[/B].[/QUOTE]
[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/12/07/chris.paul/index.html[/url]
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Right. He declined cause of his injuries, which will probably never go away. He has knee issues. Its not like its a bruised elbow or something. He went from 23 ppg/6 rpg/11 apg/3 spg on 50% in his last fully healthy season in 09 to 16 ppg/4 rpg/10 apg/2 spg on 46% last year in 11. An overall great decline in numbers despite the fact that his team didn't really get much better and he was still relied upon alot. How often do players ever go through that much of a statistical decline and then fully recover from injuries and then go back to their previous numbers? Its almost never. CP3 is still great, a clear top 10 player IMO, but he's definitely not what he used to be.[/QUOTE]
Your argument makes no sense for two reasons...One: because he wasn't 100 percent, he was obviously NOT going to put the same numbers up as he was used to putting up. Also he played less games which means less opportunities for him to actually increase his stats if he wanted to. There are two many uncertain situations to completely say he has regressed as a player.
Two: Chris Paul before the season started last year stated that he needed one more full year before his knees were fully restored....this is from his mouth. Meaning he knows his body more than we do...I dont think he believes hes gonna "fall off" as competitive as the guy is, if he was truly worse than before, he probably wouldn't sugarcoat it.
If you watch Chris Paul play EVERY GAME like I do....you can understand where Im coming from...if you occasionally watch chris paul, you will only go by numbers....because no one can sit here after watching him tear up LA last year and say if hes rested and ready to go in 2012 he wouldnt be better than ever. Eyes dont lie.
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DO IT MITCH!
[SIZE="5"]Paul won't give extension commitment to Warriors, Clippers[/SIZE]
[QUOTE]Chris Paul will not commit to signing a contract extension after this season with either the Golden State Warriors or Los Angeles Clippers if he is traded to either team by the New Orleans Hornets, citing the potential financial hit if he were to do that rather than becoming a free agent and signing a new deal with a new team next summer, according to league sources. That has left potential deals with both teams in limbo.
It was not known Wednesday if Paul had similar reluctance to sign an extension after this season with the Lakers, who are also involved in trade talks with the Hornets for Paul.
Paul is essentially making the same decision that Nets guard Deron Williams made last week in deciding not to sign an extension with New Jersey and becoming a free agent next summer. But while Williams could still re-sign in New Jersey, very few people around the league think there's any chance Paul will stay in New Orleans after this season, which is hastening the Hornets' desire to move Paul before the start of the season. Training camps are scheduled to open Friday, after the National Basketball Players Association and the NBA's Board of Governors each complete ratification votes on the new CBA Thursday.
Paul is getting paid $16.359 million this season, and has a player option for next season at $17.779 million. If he were to agree to an extension on the existing contract, he would play for the $17.779 million next season, and then be eligible for a two-year extension in 2013 for $19.112 million and $20.446 million, for a total package of $74 million through the 2014-15 season. If, however, he opts out and becomes a free agent, he'd be able to sign a five-year deal with his incumbent team worth $102 million.
Both teams understand Paul's position, but don't feel comfortable moving forward with no assurances he would stay with them after this season.
The Clippers, for example, are very reluctant to include the unprotected first-round pick from Minnesota they currently own in any deal with New Orleans -- which is understandably holding out for the maximum amount possible in exchange for its franchise player -- under the current scenario. A source indicated Wednesday it would be up to the Hornets to lower their demands for Paul to make the deal happen. New Orleans wants a combination of young players and Draft picks for Paul. But the Clippers' package still does not include guard Eric Gordon, the player the Hornets are believed to covet most off of L.A.'s roster.
Another source indicated Wednesday night that New Orleans wasn't interested in the Clippers' second-year forward, Al-Farouq Aminu, as part of the package, either. Aminu would be more expendible if the Clippers sign Mavericks free agent small forward Caron Butler, who visited them Monday night, or Detroit's Tayshaun Prince. Butler was in New Jersey Wednesday night visiting with the Nets, after very positive meetings earlier in the week with the Bulls and Spurs.
The Warriors have indicated they will not put their young star guard, Stephen Curry, in a trade package, though league sources are divided as to whether that's a permanent decision or one just based on Paul's current stance.
Paul has only reportedly told the Knicks -- who most believe don't have enough assets to make an acceptable offer to New Orleans -- that he is willing to sign an extension after this season. While there are some teams around the league that would be willing to take the gamble that they were only renting Paul's services for a year, the Clippers and Warriors are not among them.
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[url]http://www.nba.com/2011/news/12/07/chris-paul-extension/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2[/url]
^...and on the other hand, warriors won't part with curry and clips won't part with gordon. seems like both those teams are being pulled off the table. that leaves boston and lakers. for all those saying he won't be traded to LA....gasol/bynum + picks + cash sounds worse to you than just rondo? granted, rondo comes at a nice value but it'd be difficult for them to make the playoffs. would cp3 sign an extension with either of those teams? probably not since he can get more money by opting out. do either of those teams feel confident they can keep him regardless?
[QUOTE=thatoneblackguy][url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/12/07/chris.paul/index.html[/url]
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If the Lakers got Paul and Howard, it would look kind of desperate. I mean Kobe has won with Shaq, then Gasol, and now it looks like he just wants 2 superstars so he can pass Jordan. But the problem is, that if they won with Howard and Paul, Kobe might not even be the mvp on that team.