Knoe : Kobe won't ever win without Shaq
Two years later: I didn't know they would have gotten Gasol :(
Anything dude says is a joke. Didn't even read his essay.
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Knoe : Kobe won't ever win without Shaq
Two years later: I didn't know they would have gotten Gasol :(
Anything dude says is a joke. Didn't even read his essay.
Guys kobe has been known to be a competitive dick his whole life. He was taking the end of the game shots for the lakers when he was still a teenager. He had the ego to try and take over a team as the main man that had a top 7 goat on it. Kobe has always been a douchebag. This is NOT a contrived or fake image. He's just simply too competitive.
[QUOTE=PowerGlove]Most of it is. Like when Chris Rock was talking to him and he was trying so hard just staring at nothing.[/QUOTE]
its called being focused during the NBA finals............ kinda a big deal doesnt need some sorry ass comedian fuggin with him during an important game find another example bc thts not a good one....:facepalm
I think the difference between MJ and he is that he makes a point or he tries to do certain things, that coincidentally..... MJ did before him. With MJ, it never felt contrived, all done at the spurt of the moment.
From the fist pump, the "he can't guard me? (in regards to Gerald Wilkins), etc.etc. they felt real at that time.
Something I've always stated about Kobe and his game is, it feels calculated (which isn't necessarily a bad thing btw).
The irony is, that he mentions how he doesn't want to be the next Mike, but the first Kobe.... yet everything he does and says = the opposite.
And I kinda feel bad for him, because its clear that he wants to earn the same respect, so he tries to do the same things that MJ did. He wants to have his moments, he wants to be hailed (which I don't fault him).
But instead, it comes off as the son wearing his dad's shoes and shirt.
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it's called competition. We all have made ugly faces or basketball faces when the game is competitive.
[QUOTE=tpols]Guys kobe has been known to be a competitive dick his whole life. He was taking the end of the game shots for the lakers when he was still a teenager. He had the ego to try and take over a team as the main man that had a top 7 goat on it. Kobe has always been a douchebag. This is NOT a contrived or fake image. He's just simply too competitive.[/QUOTE]
Being a "thug poet" from the suburbs of Philly isn't contrived? The Michael Jordan wannabe persona wasn't contrived? Where was the scowl thing earlier in his career? Kobe, a tough guy? :oldlol: CONTRIVED.
None of this has anything to do with being competitive. Magic was competitive Bird was competitive. Wade is competitive. And on and on. All the greats are competitive, yet you don't get the same charges of being contrived for them as you do for Bryant.
[QUOTE=andgar923]I think the difference between MJ and he is that he makes a point or he tries to do certain things, that coincidentally..... MJ did before him. With MJ, it never felt contrived, all done at the spurt of the moment.
From the fist pump, the "he can't guard me? (in regards to Gerald Wilkins), etc.etc. they felt real at that time.
Something I've always stated about Kobe and his game is, it feels calculated (which isn't necessarily a bad thing btw).
The irony is, that he mentions how he doesn't want to be the next Mike, but the first Kobe.... yet everything he does and says = the opposite.
And I kinda feel bad for him, because its clear that he wants to earn the same respect, so he tries to do the same things that MJ did. He wants to have his moments, he wants to be hailed (which I don't fault him).
But instead, it comes off as the son wearing his dad's shoes and shirt.
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This is a good description of it as well.
[QUOTE=mayo'sgrizz]its called being focused during the NBA finals............ kinda a big deal doesnt need some sorry ass comedian fuggin with him during an important game find another example bc thts not a good one....:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Focused on what? Dude had his mouth wide open and just stared at nothing.:oldlol:
I think he has always had a personality or identity crisis ever since he was a kid.
Loners tend to want to try to get attention and love but do it without looking like they're seeking for that.
[QUOTE=PowerGlove]Focused on what? Dude had his mouth wide open and just stared at nothing.:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
According to you he was focused on nothing cause he had a blank stare,
but he was super focused on trying to ignore Chris Rock? :confusedshrug:
well, watch Kobe get stripped or lose the ball ....hell flail his arm, punch the air .. scream at the ref ,more often than any player w/o getting a tech most of the time.
Its not big deal to me, it doent make me dislike him or anything .. but he is one of the biggest babies when it comes to making mistake on offense. its just pretty clear to see...and I can see how it can rub people the wrong way.
[QUOTE=B-Easy]well, watch Kobe get stripped or lose the ball ....hell flail his arm, punch the air .. scream at the ref w/o getting a tech most of the time...
Its not big deal to me, it doent make me dislike him or anything .. but he is one of the biggest babies when it comes to making mistake on offense. its just pretty clear to see.[/QUOTE]
I flail my arms on the court too. It's not being a baby about it, I do it because I can get away with smacking people in the face that I don't like.
[QUOTE=AK47DR91]I think he has always had a personality or identity crisis ever since he was a kid.
Loners tend to want to try to get attention and love but do it without looking like they're seeking for that.[/QUOTE]
C/S
We have to understand Kobe the 'person', and it becomes obvious.
Kobe is a natural bad ass on the court, which is what made the 'scowl' so annoying. He doesn't need it. His overall on-court persona is VISUALLY intense/determined enough as it is because of his uber competitiveness.
Outside of that, his personality is very much contrived. The whole obsession with MJ and the unbelievably fake interviews where he tries to be 'one of the guys' - people can see right through it.
[QUOTE=B-Easy][B]well, watch Kobe get stripped or lose the ball ....hell flail his arm, punch the air .. scream at the ref .. more often than any player.[/B]
Its not big deal to me, it doent make me dislike him or anything .. but he is one of the biggest babies when it comes to making mistake on offense. its just pretty clear to see...and I can see how it can rub people the wrong way.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and that goes along with his whole narcissistic, entitled persona. Every player complains, and every player can be ridiculous with whining to refs, even "nice guy" Tim Duncan (especially nice guy Tim Duncan, and I love him lol). Kobe just takes it to a really obnoxious level. The fact that he doesn't get techs half of the time he deserves them just finishes it off.