The battle for rank #10 all time... Hakeem vs Kobe

[SIZE="4"][B]THE RIVALS AT HAKEEMS POSITION[/B][/SIZE]

For the [B]All-Star spot and 1st All-NBA team spot[/B] Hakeem had to beat out these players at his position:

Shaquille Oneal
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Dikembe Mutombo
Alonzo Mourning

Some of the best big men of all time!

For the [B]1st All-Defensive spot[/b] Hakeem had to beat out these players at his position:

Dikembe Mutombo
Mark Eaton
David Robinson
Alonzo Mourning

Some of the best defenders of all time!

For his [b]Defensive Player of the Year trophies[/b] Hakeem had to beat out these players:

Dennis Rodman
Dikembe Mutombo

Probably the best defenders of all time!

He had to fight of also David Robinson, Michael Jordan, Mark Eaton, Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton..... those are also some of the best defenders of all time...

[SIZE="4"][b]THE RIVALS AT KOBES POSITION[/b][/SIZE]

For the [B]All-Star spot and 1st All-NBA team spot[/B] Kobe had to beat out these players at his position most of the time:

Dwyane Wade
Reggie Miller
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis

Wade was the only competition really...

For the [B]1st All-Defensive spot[/b] Kobe had to beat out these players at his position:

Dwyane Wade
Reggie Miller
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis
Tony Allen?
have no idea...... i know one thing... they sure were not even close to being great defenders any of them... Wade right now is not that super bad defender tho...

[quote=pauk][SIZE=4][B]THE RIVALS AT HAKEEMS POSITION[/B][/SIZE]

For the [B]All-Star spot and 1st All-NBA team spot[/B] Hakeem had to beat out these players at his position:

Shaquille Oneal
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Dikembe Mutombo
Alonzo Mourning

Some of the best big men of all time!

For the [B]1st All-Defensive spot[/B] Hakeem had to beat out these players at his position:

Dikembe Mutombo
Mark Eaton
David Robinson
Alonzo Mourning

Some of the best defenders of all time!

For the [B]Defensive Player of the Year[/B] Hakeem had to beat out these players:

Dennis Rodman
Dikembe Mutombo

Probably the best defenders of all time!

He had to fight of also David Robinson, Michael Jordan, Mark Eaton, Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton..... those are also some of the best defenders of all time...

[SIZE=4][B]THE RIVALS AT KOBES POSITION[/B][/SIZE]

For the [B]All-Star spot and 1st All-NBA team spot[/B] Kobe had to beat out these players at his position most of the time:

[B]Dwyane Wade
Reggie Miller
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis[/B]

Wade was the only competition really...

For the [B]1st All-Defensive spot[/B] Kobe had to beat out these players at his position:
Dwyane Wade
Reggie Miller
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis
Tony Allen?
have no idea...... i know one thing... they sure were not even close to being great defenders any of them... Wade right now is not that super bad defender tho...[/quote] Did Iverson and McGrady suddenly disappear from the history books?

[QUOTE=sagr32]Did Iverson and McGrady suddenly disappear from the history books?[/QUOTE]

Iverson was a PG... he started of PG... then moved to SG... then PG.. then SG... then officially SG... Iverson was a PG/SG... not like 60/40 or 70/30... it was 50/50 for him...

McGrady started most of his career as a SF....

If you want to count in McGrady as a SG then you might aswell count in Lebron as a SG... drafted PG/SG... started SG/PG and some SF his first years then moved on to PG/SF.... then moved to SF/PF/PG... then moved on to SF mostly or whatever.... most of his career.... he is a SF tho... i think... lol

take a look at this from 2005 [url]http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/8838445[/url]

[QUOTE=pauk][SIZE="4"][B]THE RIVALS AT HAKEEMS POSITION[/B][/SIZE]

For the [B]All-Star spot and 1st All-NBA team spot[/B] Hakeem had to beat out these players at his position:

Shaquille Oneal
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Dikembe Mutombo
Alonzo Mourning

Some of the best big men of all time!

For the [B]1st All-Defensive spot[/b] Hakeem had to beat out these players at his position:

Dikembe Mutombo
Mark Eaton
David Robinson
Alonzo Mourning

Some of the best defenders of all time!

For the [b]Defensive Player of the Year[/b] Hakeem had to beat out these players:

Dennis Rodman
Dikembe Mutombo

Probably the best defenders of all time!

He had to fight of also David Robinson, Michael Jordan, Mark Eaton, Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton..... those are also some of the best defenders of all time...[/QUOTE]

You forgot Moses Malone who put up 5 seasons of 20-10 play AFTER Hakeem joined the league and he was also voted an all-star 5 times after Hakeem joined the league. He also made 2 All-NBA teams during that period.

You also forgot Robert Parish who made 5 all-star teams after Hakeem joined the league and had plenty of 15-10 seasons after that period. He also made 1 ALL-NBA team.

You also forgot Kareem who made the All-star team 5 times after Hakeem joined the league and he also made 2 All-NBA teams during that period.

[QUOTE=pauk][SIZE="4"][B]THE RIVALS AT HAKEEMS POSITION[/B][/SIZE]

For the [B]All-Star spot and 1st All-NBA team spot[/B] Hakeem had to beat out these players at his position:

Shaquille Oneal
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Dikembe Mutombo
Alonzo Mourning

Some of the best big men of all time!

For the [B]1st All-Defensive spot[/b] Hakeem had to beat out these players at his position:

Dikembe Mutombo
Mark Eaton
David Robinson
Alonzo Mourning

Some of the best defenders of all time!

For his [b]Defensive Player of the Year trophies[/b] Hakeem had to beat out these players:

Dennis Rodman
Dikembe Mutombo

Probably the best defenders of all time!

He had to fight of also David Robinson, Michael Jordan, Mark Eaton, Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton..... those are also some of the best defenders of all time...

[SIZE="4"][b]THE RIVALS AT KOBES POSITION[/b][/SIZE]

For the [B]All-Star spot and 1st All-NBA team spot[/B] Kobe had to beat out these players at his position most of the time:

Dwyane Wade
Reggie Miller
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis

Wade was the only competition really...

For the [B]1st All-Defensive spot[/b] Kobe had to beat out these players at his position:

Dwyane Wade
Reggie Miller
Ray Allen
Monta Ellis
Tony Allen?
have no idea...... i know one thing... they sure were not even close to being great defenders any of them... Wade right now is not that super bad defender tho...[/QUOTE]

You r missing Roy, Arenas, Iverson, Tmac, Carter, Jordan and Manu from the All NBA competition

you rmissing Jones, Jordan, Sefolosa,and Battier from the defender list

Hakeem no doubt. Did you see how weak his cast was when he won the title? Plus all time leader in blocks, dominant, excellent defender etc...

KAJ
MJ
TIM
Shaq
BIRD
Hakeem
Magic
Kobe
9th and 10th are hard.

As if YOU saying its the battle for #10 all time somehow makes it definitive that either of them have to be in the 10 spot:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]Hakeem no doubt. Did you see how weak his cast was when he won the title? Plus all time leader in blocks, dominant, excellent defender etc...[/QUOTE]

'nuff said

[QUOTE=millwad]You forgot Moses Malone who put up 5 seasons of 20-10 play AFTER Hakeem joined the league and he was also voted an all-star 5 times after Hakeem joined the league. He also made 2 All-NBA teams during that period.

You also forgot Robert Parish who made 5 all-star teams after Hakeem joined the league and had plenty of 15-10 seasons after that period. He also made 1 ALL-NBA team.

You also forgot Kareem who made the All-star team 5 times after Hakeem joined the league and he also made 2 All-NBA teams during that period.[/QUOTE]

I was going to tell Pauk to add the same 3.

I would also add Brad Daugherty, before his back gave out, was a 20/10 player.

I think we are going to need a federal mediator on this one.
Also Kobe and Lebron are rivals there is a rap song about it.:roll: :roll: :roll:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYkscumrBcc&feature=related[/url]

[B]Hakeem was a Better Player than Kobe

In his prime its not even debatable[/B]

Kobe>>Barkley

[QUOTE=Round Mound][B]Hakeem was a Better Player than Kobe

In his prime its not even debatable[/B][/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Heavincent]Kobe is tied for #7 on my list. Just saying. Don't say "battle for #10" like he has no case for being any higher.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, this is merely an attempt to troll, albeit in a sneaky way.