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[QUOTE=D-Wade316]:roll: :roll: :roll:
He averaged 10% in the 4th qtr. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Was it a one-on-one game? does scoring only count in the fourth quarter of one game of one series?
He struggled in the playoffs against other teams too...dude was worn down.
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[QUOTE=pauk]i agree i have said this since day 1.....
there is no such thing as a scoring point guard........... there is only a point guard who can score well but always keeps his pointguard duties..... thats more like steve nash or cp3 or deron williams or mark price and so on....
a 25-30 ppg scorer from pointguard position who is not facilitating enough (derrick rose) has always been moved to SG despite the size.... monta ellis, allen iverson and soon... derrick rose... but rose is 6'3".. 1 inch less than Wade... he should be fine....
a pointguards duty is ALWAYS and i mean ALWAYS to set his teammates up and make the correct decisions..... then you can score however much you like..... thats not how Derrick Rose plays...... he brings the ball up and often immediately starts driving or chucking a shot often ignoring the open man or setting up a play for a teammate and so on.......... that is NOT a pointguard.......... that is Monta Ellis, Allen Iverson......... that is Francis/Marbury....... that is DERRICK ROSE.... that is a pure undersized Shooting-Guard...[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
A point guard's job is to win.
Whatever it takes to win is what you do.
62 wins is something you can build on....not gaudy assist numbers.
You guys miss a lot of nuances to the game.
Derrick Rose runs one of the best give-and-go plays in the league with Joakim Noah. He plays off the ball well....he is content with hockey assists, he doesn't have to have to hand in every play.
That's a ball player for you...
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omg it looked so DIFFICULT for him to drive right past him:rolleyes:
Iverson played the shooting Guard role at 5'11( once he switched). I think Rose, at 6'2, would do just fine.
[QUOTE=Go Getter]Rose has no problem scoring against Lebron.
The problem(s) was/were:
1. Thibbs stale offense.
2. Rose being worn down by having to do so much all year.
3. The Heat having time to game plan for #1 and them paying good TEAM defense (I can't take it away from them).[/QUOTE]
Don
[QUOTE=Dragonyeuw]Iverson played the shooting Guard role at 5'11( once he switched). I think Rose, at 6'2, would do just fine.[/QUOTE]
And AI caused a mismatch problem on defense too they had scrub Eric Snow in the backcourt to guard 2's because that's about all he was good for.
[QUOTE=Vienceslav]Don
What we need is a good defensive guard with some shooting ability. Doesn't matter PG or SG.
Also we have to learn how to use Boozer on offense efficiently.
[QUOTE=Go Getter]It's not as simple as you make it Rose can drive around Lebron every single time which causes a shift in the defense...we just need better sets.
People take the fourth quarter of one series and not the 3 playoff intensity regular season games which doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]
Well on the contrary Miami seemed to shift into another gear as playoffs came.
The same can be said about their regular season games against Boston and the way people said that Boston should win because of their regular season record with MIA(what was it 3-1?too lazy to look it up).
My point is that the Bulls need to perform more consistently against MIA and stop making Allen Iverson out of DRose.
[QUOTE=Vienceslav]Well on the contrary Miami seemed to shift into another gear as playoffs came.
The same can be said about their regular season games against Boston and the way people said that Boston should win because of their regular season record with MIA(what was it 3-1?too lazy to look it up).
My point is that the Bulls need to perform more consistently against MIA and stop making Allen Iverson out of DRose.[/QUOTE]
It was a poor series but they were the better team. I mean that's what it boiled down to. Dude won 62 games CARRYING us and integrated what, 7 new players?
That's a big adjustment for a PG....not to mention coaching.
Remember when Bron made it to the finals as a young player and got trounced by the veteran Spurs? That's what happened to Rose in a nutshell...with more experience he'll learn to do what all greats vets do which is be fresh for the playoffs.
Ya'll need to stop holding onto these antiquated "Hoosiers" basketball theories...
[QUOTE=Go Getter]It was a poor series but they were the better team. I mean that's what it boiled down to. Dude won 62 games CARRYING us and integrated what, 7 new players?
That's a big adjustment for a PG....not to mention coaching.
Remember when Bron made it to the finals as a young player and got trounced by the veteran Spurs? That's what happened to Rose in a nutshell...with more experience he'll learn to do what all greats vets do which is be fresh for the playoffs.
Ya'll need to stop holding onto these antiquated "Hoosiers" basketball theories...[/QUOTE]
Well he will certainly become more experienced as he goes through these deep playoff series.
He said he
Depends on how you define a point guard.
[QUOTE=Yung D-Will]Depends on how you define a point guard.[/QUOTE]
The coach of the team defines that....cant think of any opposing arguments.
the bulls would be an undersized team if they move rose to sg. He would also have to guard bigger players.
[QUOTE=Go Getter]The coach of the team defines that....cant think of any opposing arguments.[/QUOTE]
Nothing more needs to be said we don't know more than Roses coaches if they say he is a pg than he is pg.