Remembering the And1 Era

[QUOTE=Rake2204] It was borderline sensory overload in terms of what I thought was possible on a basketball court and what I'd never even imagined.
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Well said. Obviously, it wasn't quality basketball, but it was still really enjoyable. In the 7th grade, I'd watch it daily, and then proceed to head to the courts to play b-ball. Regardless if it seemingly promoted the wrong aspects of the game, it was still the type of thing that motivated me (and I'm sure many other teens) to go to the courts and play ball.

This [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul-t-tAEvNs#t=1m17s"]play [/URL]still blows my mind. I remember watching this clip over and over, and then practising reverse layups for hours at a time.

Maybe I'll watch it again now ha.

[QUOTE=DaHeezy]And they lost, so what's the big deal. It's not like everygame some And1 wannabe is pulling those stunts.
It's harmless fun. If you're losing to these guys, maybe you Should leave the court[/QUOTE]

Haha I wasn't losing to them, I was losing the will to live watching their antics. :lol

I'm half kidding, I don't mean to sound too negative in the thread. Thinking back now, I did legitimately hate 'clownball' as I called it for a while, but f*** it live and let live, like you say it's harmless fun.

I played with a coworker back in '04 who pulled that **** all the time 1-on-1, except he was really good. It was always fun watching him plow (no homo) our other coworker. The guy always had that "I'm good cuz I'm black" attitude and would always get pissed off when a Mexican guy beat him. :lol

[QUOTE=stax] Thinking back now, I did legitimately hate 'clownball' as I called it for a while, but f*** it live and let live, like you say it's harmless fun.[/QUOTE]

Looking back, I think we can say it's harmless fun.

But it certainly was annoying to see wannabe street-ballers dribble away entire possessions, proceed to play no defence, only to attempt some fancy trick on a 1 vs 5 fast-break. It's the type of thing that drove gym teachers mad!

Do any of you remember the Canadian ballers The Notic? Back when streetball was the shit I was much more into these guys. And 1 became too much of a fixed indoor entertainment.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLSRjH1CY9Q[/url]

I watched an And1 game live at MSG, they lost to the NY streetballers. Every time Hotsauce got the ball, everyone stood on their feet and watched to see what moves he would pull off, Do they still play? They used to have the series on ESPN.

[QUOTE=neilio23]This [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul-t-tAEvNs#t=1m17s"]play [/URL]still blows my mind. I remember watching this clip over and over, and then practising reverse layups for hours at a time.

Maybe I'll watch it again now ha.[/QUOTE]
I knew exactly what clip that was going to be before I even watched. I loved that move too.

However, my watershed moment was a move that used to be on the commercials for HoopsTV.com (if basketball is your religion, HoopsTV.com is your church): [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Coa7E3LvHns#t=0m54s[/url]

I eventually ended up taping a special program off TNT called On Hallowed Ground and I'd just watch that clip over and over (and the Vince Carter alley-oop) until my friend stole the tape.

I honestly miss this era. They got people playing basketball again and all of them deserve to be put in the basketball hall of fame.

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]I honestly miss this era. They got people playing basketball again and all of them deserve to be put in the basketball hall of fame.[/QUOTE]

This is why I think Iverson should be put in the basketball HOF. I think AI had just as much, if not more street influence

Latrell Sprewell used to rock some nice And 1 shoes on the Knicks. Than he switched to Dada. I don't think any NBA player has worn a pair of Dadas since like 2004 :oldlol: :oldlol: Up until a few seasons ago, Monta Ellis used to wear And 1. Now he just rocks Jordans.

[QUOTE=DaHeezy]This is why I think Iverson should be put in the basketball HOF. I think AI had just as much, if not more street influence[/QUOTE]

Ya AI had a ton of street ball influence. He was drafted in 96 and the And1 stuff blew up around 2000.

But, AI will def. make the HOF regardless.

[SIZE="7"][/SIZE][QUOTE=Rake2204]Sometimes that might work, but in this case it did not. As I alluded, direct criticism only made things worse. I'd say something like that, then he'd snip back and attempt to freeze me out while I attempted to freeze him out. Then if I made a mistake he'd let me hear about it. Then before you know it, the game has devolved into an unplayable mess. So then the next time, everyone tries to play it cool with that guy for the sake of the game. And eventually, it's just something folks learn to kind of live with to the best of their abilities.

Basically, I'm 6'3'' 170. Nothing I say is going to seriously intimidate a fellow adult on the basketball court. Further, my region was never one that believed in physical street justice, so we're usually left to attempt to solve matters in a civilized manner and often, it wouldn't work well. [B][SIZE="5"]And1 guys would And1 through thick and thin. It was an uncontrollable tick. [/SIZE][/B][B][SIZE="6"]It was an addiction.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE="7"]We all had to work through it together[/SIZE][/B].[/QUOTE]



:roll: :applause:

and1 was a great era


brought harlem globetrotters type style to new era...without the overt clowning

sort of a logical if delayed extension to the fab five....

the thing was...webber and company could ACTUALLY play, so it was swagger and style on top of SOLID skills..
webber, howard and rose had long careers because they had tremendous fundamental skills

and 1 pushed the swagger/style style above actual skill level....

fooled generation of kids into thinking that tricks were more important than shooting, passing, dribbling,cutting,defending,etc




having said all that very very entertaining to watch

my top and 1 moments




1.Hotsauce and crew went into the projects in Coney Island...playing against future nba player sebstian telfair....and holding a cell phone in one hand..hot sauce drove around 3 defenders and made a layup...he shut down the ENTIRE projects



2. NBA player Mike James or Darrel Armstrong.......got crisss crossed off his feet...by professor... literally fell on the floor during a game


3. the 720....and just seeing air up there do super human stuff



4. very skinny player out of chicago....telling the guys that you can't measure strength by looking at how big somebody is......then he put up 4 plates like it was nothing.....bench pressed 225 lbs super easy



5.Super athlete Spider....thinking he's a world class athlete and stepping in the boxing ring with a real boxer....getting his ass handed to him..but staying in there

I was thinking about this thread last night. I remember one time I was persuaded to join the middle of a pick-up game at my school - so the people on court kind of knew me by reputation even though some of them were casual players - and the very first thing I did was put the ball between my legs, around my back and through the defender's legs, blowing by him in the process, and everyone went crazy haha. Good memories man.

[QUOTE=Rake2204]I knew exactly what clip that was going to be before I even watched. I loved that move too.

However, my watershed moment was a move that used to be on the commercials for HoopsTV.com (if basketball is your religion, HoopsTV.com is your church): [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Coa7E3LvHns#t=0m54s[/url]

[B]I eventually ended up taping a special program off TNT called On Hallowed Ground and I'd just watch that clip over and over (and the Vince Carter alley-oop) until my friend stole the tape.[/B][/QUOTE]

Wow I forgot about that! I remember trying to find it online (pre-YouTube) but no luck.

I've also been thinking about some of the other 'media' from the late 90s:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sFToJ.jpg[/IMG]

I once did a portrait of Earl The Goat (based on John Huet's photo) for a school art project, circa 1998-99. :oldlol:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hhoM9.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OwcjP.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Rake2204]

And obviously, true to his kind, he couldn't take any sort of criticism. If someone said anything, the entire game would devolve into some horrible back and forth where he'd then dominate the ball 3 times harder than he did before. You're right though, as horrible as he was to have as a teammate, he was a joy to play against.[/QUOTE]

This is how I'd imagine the Wizards players felt about Arenas.