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[QUOTE=Joey3000]
Lebron is now 29 and about to get his second title. How old was MJ when he got his second title? wasnt he about 29 also? Exactly.[/QUOTE]
yes, and if he never loses a series again while winning 5 more rings we can start the goat discussion
[QUOTE=Foster5k]What about 2011 when he layed an egg versus the Mavs? The Greatest of All Time doesn't do that.[/QUOTE]
Nobody called him the Greatest of all time. He has G.O.A.T talent but does not have the achievements.
Why turn this into a MJ vs LBJ arguement? The point is he can coexist with others. Thats a strong point, whether u guys accept that or not.
[QUOTE=tobethdope]yes, and if he never loses a series again while winning 5 more rings we can start the goat discussion[/QUOTE]
I never started a GOAT discusion.
[QUOTE=ripthekik]how about[/QUOTE]
We don't know that he couldn't just win with one star...but we do know he made the finals with just role players.
[QUOTE=All Net]Nobody can succeed without playing with stars...MJ included.[/QUOTE]
Hakeem..
[QUOTE=Joey3000]James went to the finals for the first time at a very young age (23). He was not in his prime, and lead a team not nearly as good as the chicago bulls. Infact that team was not even a playoff team with out a young james.
Lebron is now 29 and about to get his second title. How old was MJ when he got his second title? wasnt he about 29 also? Exactly.[/quote]
His first finals were a bonus. Not winning meant nothing negative, but the 2011 Finals will always prevent him from being GOAT.
Regarding your 2k point(aside from its stupidity): Create an SF and get drafted by the Lakers..
Drexler and Pippen never played on the same team.
OK lets look at it this way. U have this team:
Shaq
Garnett
Kobe
Chris Paul.
Who do u add, MJ or Lebron?
here is another one:
Hakeem
Duncan
Bird
Pierce
Who do u add? Kobe or Lebron?
[QUOTE=All Net].but we do know he made the finals with just role players.[/QUOTE]
well, plenty of players have done that. Beyond that, no ring is no ring.
[QUOTE]We don't know that he couldn't just win with one star..[/QUOTE]
well we know he can only win with 2 stars in their primes.. until he proves us wrong..
I personally would be very glad to see him prove me wrong.
[QUOTE=Joey3000]OK lets look at it this way. U have this team:
Shaq
Garnett
Kobe
Chris Paul.
Who do u add, MJ or Lebron?
here is another one:
Hakeem
Duncan
Bird
Pierce
Who do u add? Kobe or Lebron?[/QUOTE]
Both teams win the ring in any league. there is no difference.
The point is LBJ has a unique gift that allows him to coexist. Very few people of his talent level can coexist and people see that as a negative. He is gunna ride that talent to multiple titles and all you will be able to say is stupid things like "He couldnt do it alone".
Yet you will ignore that his peers couldnt addapt to playing with other great players.
[QUOTE=ripthekik]Both teams win the ring in any league. there is no difference.[/QUOTE]
Based on what? Yeah they are talented, but can they coexist?
Before the season started everybody was on the Lakers championship boat. Now I know they are unhealthy, but the other situation that we cant ignor is that they cant coexist.
[QUOTE=Joey3000]The point is LBJ has a unique gift that allows him to coexist. Very few people of his talent level can coexist and people see that as a negative. He is gunna ride that talent to multiple titles and all you will be able to say is stupid things like "He couldnt do it alone".
Yet you will ignore that his peers couldnt addapt to playing with other great players.[/QUOTE]
He has a unique gift to only win when coexisting with two stars. few people of his talent level need to coexist with two more stars to win. he is gonna ride those talents to multiple titles and we will say he couldnt do it alone.
Yes he has the GOAT ability to stack his team to ensure he faces the least amount of competition.
[QUOTE=ripthekik]He has a unique gift to only win when coexisting with two stars. few people of his talent level need to coexist with two more stars to win. he is gonna ride those talents to multiple titles and we will say he couldnt do it alone.[/QUOTE]
still better than your kobe
[QUOTE=red1]still better than your kobe[/QUOTE]
the kobe that dropped 81 points on your raptors? ok.
[QUOTE=ripthekik]He has a unique gift to only win when coexisting with two stars. few people of his talent level need to coexist with two more stars to win. he is gonna ride those talents to multiple titles and we will say he couldnt do it alone.[/QUOTE]
haters will hate no matter how idiotic it is..