The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism

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The funny thing is that I know white people know deep down inside that there is still alot of racism in America..

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I think most know there is a problem of racism in America, but most don't understand how much racism still exists. Most of it has been pushed to a covert level and includes tons of bias and being oblivious rather than straight up racists.

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Do you think they are just joking or do you think the internet simply gives them the freedom to say things they wouldnt dare say in public?[/QUOTE]

If you read the comments on Yahoo, the ones that get most of the attention seem pretty genuine in their racism and ignorance. Homosexual topics draw even more comments. You will see how many will talk about the "Gay agenda" and sarcastic comments about coming out as straight to belittle the articles. I point out this as a further example of people seeming to be genuine in lots of the posts on that site.

[QUOTE=Myth]I think most know there is a problem of racism in America, but most don't understand how much racism still exists. Most of it has been pushed to a covert level and includes tons of bias and being oblivious rather than straight up racists.[/QUOTE]

I can relate it to myself in this way... My wife says she gets dirty looks from black women all the time... I believe her, but it seems that I almost never see it myself..

I dont doubt that it happens, but it isnt a problem that I think about because they usually do it when my back is turned or something like that..

@Mavsfan

Have you seen this video?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7i60GuNRg[/url]

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]I can relate it to myself in this way... My wife says she gets dirty looks from black women all the time... I believe her, but it seems that almost never see it myself..

I dont doubt that it happens, but it isnt a problem that I think about because they usually do it when my back is turned or something like that..[/QUOTE]

Reminds me of a couple months ago when I was walking behind a couple of guys holding hands. They passed a lady coming out of her house and after she was no longer in their view, she gave them this glare of disgust. The couple had no idea she reacted that way. I was tempted to call her out, but I didn't want to ruin the day (or that moment) for the couple.

[QUOTE=97 bulls]@Mavsfan

Have you seen this video?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7i60GuNRg[/url][/QUOTE]

I love that show. Only show that moves me to tears.

Old and long, but relevant: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeK759FF84s[/url]

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]I tend to think the internet gives a more extreme impression of what actually exists in rl in almost all circumstances. racism/sexual preferences/etc. The sample online is skewed is what I meant. Eg. Racists tended to loudly celebrate the death of trayvon there by making society overall seem more racist than it actually is.[/QUOTE]
hey! it's a well-known phenomenon. but by the same token, it does seem to show what happens when people are allowed to talk and act in a more 'real' way. they didn't really need the internet when it comes down to it... that's just the specific method we're privy to getting their 'real' thoughts. meaning it could also be like talking to someone who's had a few, or overhearing two people who think they're speaking in privacy.

but on the net, in this case, those people definitely seemed to feel safety in their numbers.

point is, it does raise the question for me of what happens when peoples' restraints are lessened. all kinds of mildly difficult and stressful situations tend to lead to that, with the actions that we see all around us and read in the news. in short, where there's smoke, there's fire.

Racism is still just as prevalent. Its just more of an undertone. More undercover. More stereotyping. You wont hear very many whites calling blacks the "N" word, but they will view them as a criminal or lesser than them until proven wrong

______ ism is alive and well everywhere I been....

- I lived in Japan and saw many signs " No Americans/Foreigners " allowed

- I got slapped in a grocery store in Hiroshima ( for being American I guess)

- Taiwan I almost got beat to death for making out with a Taiwanese chick in a Bar ( I guess it had a few Chinese Mafia cats who liked her)

- as a kid riding home on our bikes after ballin...occasionally getting called N____(hard R's)....( shit like that F's with kids anyway you look at it)

- I would say the world is F'ed up beyond recognition....just try and maintain :confusedshrug:

To the lady who said racism was worse today...I say what's the worst racist thing that happened to her? She got called the N word? Back in the day, her ancestors would vote for that option 10 times out of 10.

I had a friend one time who told me blacks can't look forward to a racist free America until they get over a racist filled past. Maybe there was some truth to that. [COLOR="White"]He was black, so don't even jump on me[/COLOR]

Well racism does exist but so do other forms of discriminations. The problem is there cant be any honest discussion on the subject and most white people prefer to ignore the elephant in the room. Instead there is a PC world with laws set to solve racism but neither fix the issue.

I can find all sorts of daily situations where I think I have been discriminated against. I had a gas store owner lcok the doors on me and ask me to return the stolen goods although i didnt have anything. I had a cop ask to search my bag and made a comment like oh you just have books in there. I have a ton more. If i was black i would have attributed it to racism.

[QUOTE=gigantes]hey! it's a well-known phenomenon. but by the same token, it does seem to show what happens when people are allowed to talk and act in a more 'real' way. they didn't really need the internet when it comes down to it... that's just the specific method we're privy to getting their 'real' thoughts. meaning it could also be like talking to someone who's had a few, or [B]overhearing two people who think they're speaking in privacy.[/B][/quote]

My moments come through my wife.. She tells me that she can go to a store by herself and the white people in the store will be so nice and friendly to her...but if she ever comes back to that store with me? they never speak to her again..

Her mom's boyfriend is a white guy who I get along with pretty well, but he has the habit of always asking black white questions..

[I]"How come black people get to say this, and white's dont"[/I]

those types of questions.. It doesnt really bother me, just lets me get an idea of how much white people think about these issues.. Its seems like they think about [B]MORE [/B]than black people

When you hang around black people, they dont discuss white people so much as they co sign each other's experiences..

[I]"you know how racist they are over that side of town"

"Girl, you know I know"[/I]


My wife tells me often about people at work or in public who will say racist things to her (if Im not around) and not realize that she is offended.. they they think they are speaking to someone who feels the same way.

I work in the a diverse setting and my co workers love me, so I can bring her around my functions and have her pictures up..

But she works in a bank with mostly white people so she doesnt put pictures up and I dont go to her work functions.. Only a select few of her co-workers know Im black because we are scared that it would effect her job if the wrong people found out..

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]I can relate it to myself in this way... My wife says she gets dirty looks from black women all the time... I believe her, but it seems that I almost never see it myself..

I dont doubt that it happens, but it isnt a problem that I think about because they usually do it when my back is turned or something like that..[/QUOTE]
Are you sure them being black has anything at all to do with the dirty looks?

Not pointing fingers here, but many blacks suffer from turning things into a race issue that simply was not a race issue...

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Here I'll name a few real quick..

Went down south street recently... Me and My wife went to eat (My wife is Italian).. We eat in the restaurant and then we get ready to leave.. We both go to the bathroom I come out before her so I wait... She comes out fuming mad.. She says this white lady in the bathroom asked if she was "OK" and did she need help.. Apparently the white lady assumed the black guy (me) waiting outside the bathroom for her was causing her problems..

Me and & the wife go downtown... I wanted to hit the apple store real quick.. We find a parking spot, but there is this white lady standing in it ..... She says we cannot park there because her husband is coming and she is saving it for him.. I tell her "you cant save a spot like that" and I ask her to move.. She pitches a fit and refuses to move.. after a minute of arguing, I just start back into the spot and telling her move... She gets out of the way, but she is furious.. We get the spot and walk to the store.. She follows behind us giving threats about keying my wife's car (Which had my woman ready to fight) and threats about me going to jail because her husband is a cop (I think she was lying) We ignore her and go in the store (there is crowd growing at this point because she is yelling)..We come out of the store and this lady has summoned a cop. she tells the cop to arrest me because I called her a racial slur :oldlol: ... the people who are standing around disagree with her.. I call her crazy.. the cop gets mad at [B]ME[/B] and threatens to take me in (while the lady is yelling at me over his shoulder..he pretends he cannot hear her). At that point I realize this is a ridiculous situation we just get in the car and roll out before the cop takes any real action.. the lady's husband just shows up when we were pulling out and asks "Hey honey, what the problem?" :roll: I felt bad for the guy because his wife was such a lying sh*tstarter.

I can think of a alot more, most are mundane (getting pulled over by the cops for driving a nice car and being told I got pulled over because my license plate was crooked :rolleyes: )..[/QUOTE]

The first one is probably racism, but with very insignificant repercussions. Essentially your wife getting upset.

Your second story is definitely not about racism. It's about you being a dick and a woman getting rightfully mad. Since when can't you save a parking space for someone? She can occupy any parking space she wants, whether she's using it for herself or saving it for someone else. Forcefully driving into an occupied space is not only a dick move but a potentially illegal one. If that were me, I'd wait until your car made contact with my body and then press charges for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Yep, a vehicle and concrete can both be used as deadly weapons.

I have one question. When was the last time a black person was lynched in the United States?

If the worst thing we can find today are complaints about subtle glances or suggestions of racism, I'd say it hardly exists today on the level that it used to. Black people today like to use the racism card when they feel treated unfairly but that doesn't mean it's actually racism. Everybody gets treated unfairly (unless you're ultra rich). I've been pulled over for bogus reasons by a black cop. Didn't think it was racism.