[QUOTE=The-Legend-24]Most skilled player ever, a goat scorer, just all around great player.
I'll say multiple 60+ ppg seasons, to go along 20 assists, and maybe 10+ rebounds a game.
In short, GOAT.[/QUOTE]
Stop homie.
You sugar-coatin dis bitch.
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[QUOTE=The-Legend-24]Most skilled player ever, a goat scorer, just all around great player.
I'll say multiple 60+ ppg seasons, to go along 20 assists, and maybe 10+ rebounds a game.
In short, GOAT.[/QUOTE]
Stop homie.
You sugar-coatin dis bitch.
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]Stop homie.
You sugar-coatin dis bitch.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Your attempts to post like you're African-American when you're from Australia is absolutely cringe-worthy and f#cking sad.
[IMG]http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/122/1225936/2448448-0589552695-Wigge.jpg[/IMG]
Your life story right there.
[QUOTE=Combat Wombat]:facepalm
Your attempts to post like you're African-American when you're from Australia is absolutely cringe-worthy and f#cking sad.
[IMG]http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/122/1225936/2448448-0589552695-Wigge.jpg[/IMG]
Your life story right there.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Haha.
You soo shook homie, don't cry yo
lemme go get some tissues for you ok boo thang
but seriously. who the fvck are you???
Best player in da game.
40 ppg 10 rpg 10 apg
10 straight titles
Like, is this even a serious question? How many players could even dribble with two hands back in the day? Kobe's too quick & skilled for anyone to guard him & he would be the best passer of that era by a mile if you compare his passing game to Big O's.
Kobe does everything better than Oscar, who averaged 31 13 11 for a season in that era while he's an inch smaller than Kobe with less skills.
If a 6-5 Oscar, that weighs just about as much as Kobe, averages 10+ rpg for 3 straight seasons, what you think a taller & a more athletic Kobe is going to do? Oscar had a similar skillset actually when you look at his scoring arsenal, he could post up & shoot turnaround J's, his pull up jumper was pretty good, but still looked weird like Magic's & his passing is overrated as hell.
Kobe, with the skillset that he has, would dominate the league so easily because no one in that era would be good enough to stop him.
Outside the top 10.
People will diminish his accomplishments. Dominating short nerdy white guys ain't going to impress anybody.
[QUOTE=deja vu]Outside the top 10.
People will diminish his accomplishments. Dominating short nerdy white guys ain't going to impress anybody.[/QUOTE]
So about where he is now?
[QUOTE=Quickening]So about where he is now?[/QUOTE]
just ahead of Magic
greatest Laker of all-time, which Magic, Shaq & Jerry West have all said Kobe is, so if you rank Magic & Kareem in the top 5, Kobe has to be right ahead of them, or at minimum, ahead of Magic.
Barkley: Kobe is one of the 5 greatest NBA Players ever
Shaq: Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time
Magic: Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time
West: Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time
Marc Jackson: Kobe will go down as the greatest player of all-time
Pat Riley: MJ will always be the best of the best, but you have to put Kobe right there, guys like Dwyane, Lebron & Melo are trying to get there one day
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anoqbgOZrEg[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYZAgKRtM8[/url]
in the video above, at 8:59, Phil says Kobe's more skilled than MJ
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGJSiMqpWk[/url]
See, even Lebron knows how to love Kobe, how many players have actually admitted that someone is better than them? Lebron had no problem admitting that Kobe was greater than him as a player & as a scorer in multiple seasons. Lebron stans need to listen to they idol. :applause:
[QUOTE=ImKobe]just ahead of Magic
greatest Laker of all-time, which Magic, Shaq & Jerry West have all said Kobe is, so if you rank Magic & Kareem in the top 5, Kobe has to be right ahead of them, or at minimum, ahead of Magic.
Barkley: Kobe is one of the 5 greatest NBA Players ever
Shaq: Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time
Magic: Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time
West: Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time
Marc Jackson: Kobe will go down as the greatest player of all-time
Pat Riley: MJ will always be the best of the best, but you have to put Kobe right there, guys like Dwyane, Lebron & Melo are trying to get there one day
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anoqbgOZrEg[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYZAgKRtM8[/url]
in the video above, at 8:59, Phil says Kobe's more skilled than MJ
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGJSiMqpWk[/url]
See, even Lebron knows how to love Kobe, how many players have actually admitted that someone is better than them? Lebron had no problem admitting that Kobe was greater than him as a player & as a scorer in multiple seasons. Lebron stans need to listen to they idol. :applause:[/QUOTE]
BUT the REALITY is, Magic is CLEARLY the greatest Laker of all-time. He has the all-time greatest W-L record percentage in NBA history (which BTW, was higher in his career games withOUT Kareem.) He carried his teams to NINE Finals, winning FIVE rings, with THREE FMVPs (and was certainly robbed of another one in '88.) AND, he played WELL in nearly all of his Finals, unlike Kobe, who was either below average, or downright putrid in five of his seven (and only average, for him, in the other two...and both of those were against crappy Nets teams.)
[B]Kobe highlights from 1960s[/B]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK4XhR0lYlE[/url]
[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]BUT the REALITY is, Magic is CLEARLY the greatest Laker of all-time. He has the all-time greatest W-L record percentage in NBA history (which BTW, was higher in his career games withOUT Kareem.) He carried his teams to NINE Finals, winning FIVE rings, with THREE FMVPs (and was certainly robbed of another one in '88.) AND, he played WELL in nearly all of his Finals, unlike Kobe, who was either below average, or downright putrid in five of his seven (and only average, for him, in the other two...and both of those were against crappy Nets teams.)[/QUOTE]
What does he expect Magic to say? That he thinks of himself as the greatest Laker? Shaq played with Kobe too, and he's been playing damage control with him for years.
Magic won as many rings as Kobe in considerably less years.
[QUOTE=T_L_P]What does he expect Magic to say? That he thinks of himself as the greatest Laker? Shaq played with Kobe too, and he's been playing damage control with him for years.
Magic won as many rings as Kobe in considerably less years.[/QUOTE]
Magic didn't say it in response to a question. He said it on his own and the cohosts on the show didn't know how to respond. Magic knew what he was saying and meant what he said
[QUOTE=deja vu]Outside the top 10.
People will diminish his accomplishments. Dominating short nerdy white guys ain't going to impress anybody.[/QUOTE]
This right here :applause: :applause: :applause:
Similar to how we rank Chamberlain, and it's clear Kobe ranks above him now.
kobe would lead the league in FG in the 60s. There. I said it. What more is there to be said? :roll:
[QUOTE=T_L_P]What does he expect Magic to say? That he thinks of himself as the greatest Laker? Shaq played with Kobe too, and he's been playing damage control with him for years.
[B]Magic won as many rings as Kobe in considerably less years.[/B][/QUOTE]
And who did Magic have for those rings? Oh yeah, only the NBA's all-time leading scorer, who won an FMVP over prime Magic at 38 years of age. Even James Worthy won a Finals MVP over prime Magic. Jamaal Wilkes also deserved one of those FMVPs that Magic got & Kareem was robbed in Magic's rookie season.
People use Kobe's help to take credit away from him all the time, why does no one do that for Magic, who arguably had some of the most stacked rosters ever?
1985 Lakers: Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Cooper, McAdoo, Wilkes, Byron Scott. That Lakers team had eleven 10+ ppg scorers & 3 scored over 20 a game for crying out loud. Magic obviously had an inconic career with his regular season & Playoff success & even though I love the guy I feel like the way his career got short added a lot to his legend.
Magic won 5 out of 9 Finals while Kobe won 5 out of 7 & Kobe had a period, where he had zero help for 3 straight seasons. Magic was drafted into a team that went to the semis the year prior & had so many HOFers play alongside him during their primes. What's worse, Magic nearly got swept in the first round with HCA as the defending champs against the 6th seeded Rockets, who went 40-42 in the regular season.
Kobe won 2 rings & led his team to b2b titles without Shaq or another top 50 all-time great, Magic didn't do that. :coleman:
Kobe also never lost in the first round with HCA & he had considerably less help after Shaq left.
Kobe, Magic & Kareem each have 5 titles with the Lakers, Kobe did it with the least amount of help. Kobe's the greatest Laker. Shaq said it, & he hated Kobe for a while. The 3 most iconic Laker players ever, who all could be debated for the greatest Laker, said Kobe was the greatest. I'm taking their word.
40-45 ppg on 65-70%.
Nobody would be able to physically stop him.
He has great hops with skill that none of those players would even imagine of.
7-8 rings at least