Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=ForeverHeat]Well the death penalty is essentially a easy way out. Die in a very non-painful fashion and thats that. Life in prison (until you die, not 25 years), is the same since you will die in prison anyway (and more likely in a more painful way then by state execution). Its essentially the death penalty + decades of imprisonment. I dont see how the death penalty is a "worse" punishment.
Then again some guys like prison and they have communities there, so they may prefer life in prison to being sentenced to death, so that may be an issue.[/QUOTE]
Of course, I'm guessing you are also unaware that this life in prison is paid by our taxes. Or that you genuinely enjoy paying taxes so that people are in prison instead of facing death penalty.
We are all a little f&cked up in the head now, aren't we.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=GimmeThat]Of course, I'm guessing you are also unaware that this life in prison is paid by our taxes. Or that you genuinely enjoy paying taxes so that people are in prison instead of facing death penalty.
We are all a little f&cked up in the head now, aren't we.[/QUOTE]
Death penalty costs the tax payer much much much more than life in prison.
Read a book, you sound like an idiot popping off in that tone unaware of how retarded your rant is.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=Dresta]No, because:
1. Mistakes cannot be rectified, and there will always be mistakes.
2. I do not think the state should have the right and power to kill its citizens, no matter what they do, and i do not trust the state with such a power.
Though i deplore the current focus on rehabilitation with people who have committed acts so heinous that one should have no interest in their rehabilitation, and only in their permanent separation and isolation from the rest of society.
The best reason i can think of to justify the death penalty is that it provides a kind of cathartic release for society in that it has revenged itself on someone who so thoroughly cheated it. Human beings have always revelled in this kind of collective revenge.[/QUOTE]
Jail, is a land in which we created for those who had been deported from our country. Some temporary. In the case of life in prison, I suppose we are just creating an arena of people where people of the civlized generally would not want to be associated with or the fear of possible danger. But I guess this leaves the possibility that those who could make through enough progress in order for others to accept them.
That is one point of view in which I can live without the capital punishment.
But that's just me.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]Death penalty costs the tax payer much much much more than life in prison.
Read a book, you sound like an idiot popping off in that tone unaware of how retarded your rant is.[/QUOTE]
I don't need a book to tell me that you believe in making mistakes, than have a system to be sure you save for those who got left because they were right.
Because in that case, population control isn't your issue.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=GimmeThat]I don't need a book to tell me that you believe in making mistakes, than have a system to be sure you save for those who got left because they were right.
Because in that case, population control isn't your issue.[/QUOTE]
are you a moron?
you wrote:
[QUOTE]I'm guessing you are also unaware that this life in prison is paid by our taxes. Or that you genuinely enjoy paying taxes so that people are in prison instead of facing death penalty.
We are all a little f&cked up in the head now, aren't we.[/QUOTE]
death penalty costs more than life in prison.
get a f*cking clue.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
I'm anti death penatly but even if you agree wih it, it should only be used when there is undisputeable evidence like a clear cut video of the person comitting the crime.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=GimmeThat]Jail, is a land in which we created for those who had been deported from our country. Some temporary. In the case of life in prison, I suppose we are just creating an arena of people where people of the civlized generally would not want to be associated with or the fear of possible danger. But I guess this leaves the possibility that those who could make through enough progress in order for others to accept them.
That is one point of view in which I can live without the capital punishment.
But that's just me.[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
I read that 3 times and still don't have a clue what you're getting at.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]are you a moron?
you wrote:
death penalty costs more than life in prison.
get a f*cking clue.[/QUOTE]
all you need to do is change the law and somehow it won't.
:applause:
sorry if I mistaken world view with American view sometimes.
Damn tunnel version that I have.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
Death penalty only takes up tax money.
What would be more useful is to turn them into medical/science experiments to find cure for diseases. That way they are useful to society.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=Dresta]:biggums:
I read that 3 times and still don't have a clue what you're getting at.[/QUOTE]
That in a none-political fashion, one life is worth more than another.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]
Until they have a more cost effective way and accurate way to condemn people to death the judges should be held personally accountable for the well being of anyone they wrongfully condemn to death (ie charged with murder) that would make far fewer death sentences and much more accurate ones.
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I always vote Green, and I believe in the death penalty. It needs to be fixed so that only people that have absolute evidence against them, e.g. a witness, a motive, AND firm DNA evidence should be killed. They should only have 3 months to mount a defense, and if they cannot prove they didn't do it (rape, murder, pedo acts etc) then they're dead. Gun shot to the head.
I don't approve of paying for lifelong criminals, and I don't believe in prisoner reform in violent criminals
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
i'm anti.
IMO it's morally wrong.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
[QUOTE=D-FENS]I always vote Green, and I believe in the death penalty. It needs to be fixed so that only people that have absolute evidence against them, e.g. a witness, a motive, AND firm DNA evidence should be killed. They should only have 3 months to mount a defense, and if they cannot prove they didn't do it (rape, murder, pedo acts etc) then they're dead. Gun shot to the head.
I don't approve of paying for lifelong criminals, and I don't believe in prisoner reform in violent criminals[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
Yeah, i'm sure granting such an arbitrary power to the state won't end badly and end up with innocent people getting a 'shot to the head'
In the real world things don't function so smoothly as in your dreamt up utopia where it is easy as pie to determine guilt and execute someone in the space of 3 months :facepalm
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
I'm not in favor of the death penalty. I don't think it's a deterrent and there's a small chance that an innocent man might be sentenced to death.
It's better to make those mofos suffer a life in prison rather than give them an easy way out.
Re: Lets Talk-Death Penalty
I am anti-death penalty because we will wind up putting innocent people to death. I also think there should be far less laws in general and that would cut plenty of costs from the prison system. I also think prisoners should be treated in a more humane fashion, though I know many would disagree with that. It's not right to keep someone locked in a box 23 hours a day. It's insanity.