NBA 2k ratings for top players (post-1980)

Are we counting players at their absolute best? Because Kobe at his absolute best, when he's hot, is just under peak Jordan.

Too lazy to make my own list, here are my changes.

Michael Jordan - 99
Kobe Bryant - 98
Larry Bird - 97
Hakeem Olajuwon - 97
Tim Duncan - 97
Shaquille O'Neal - 97
Moses Malone - 97
Magic Johnson - 97
Kevin Garnett - 96
Karl Malone - 96
Charles Barkley - 96
Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 95
Dirk Nowitzki - 95
Kevin Durant - 95
Julius Erving - 95
Dwyane Wade - 95
Isaiah Thomas - 95
David Robinson - 95
Clyde Drexler - 94
Patrick Ewing - 94
Scottie Pippen - 93
Chris Webber - 93
Kevin McHale - 93
Jason Kidd - 93
Dominique Wilkins - 93
Allen Iverson - 93
Tracy McGrady - 93
Gary Payton - 93
Steve Nash - 93
Carmelo Anothony - 93
Alonzo Mourning - 93
Vince Carter - 92
Lebron James - 92
Bernard King - 92
Chris Paul - 92
Alex English - 92
Derrick Rose - 92
Kevin Johnson - 91
Paul Pierce - 91
Sidney Moncrief - 91
Dwight Howard - 90
Joe Dumars - 90
Ray Allen - 90
Grant Hill - 90
Penny Hardaway - 90
Chris Mullin - 90
Tim Hardaway - 90
Mitch Richmond - 89
Russell Westbrook - 89
Pau Gasol - 89
Adrian Dantley - 89
Rasheed Wallace - 88
Brandon Roy - 88
Amare Stoudemire - 88
Rajon Rondo - 88
LaMarcus Aldridge - 88
Tony Parker - 88
James Worthy - 88
Chauncey Billups - 88
Kenyon Martin - 88
Blake Griffin - 88
Stephen Curry - 88
Reggie Miller - 88
Elton Brand - 88

[QUOTE=Lord Bean]Are we counting players at their absolute best? Because Kobe at his absolute best, when he's hot, is just under peak Jordan.

Too lazy to make my own list, here are my changes.

Michael Jordan - 99
Kobe Bryant - 98
Larry Bird - 97
Hakeem Olajuwon - 97
Tim Duncan - 97
Shaquille O'Neal - 97
Moses Malone - 97
Magic Johnson - 97
Kevin Garnett - 96
Karl Malone - 96
Charles Barkley - 96
Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 95
Dirk Nowitzki - 95
Kevin Durant - 95
Julius Erving - 95
Dwyane Wade - 95
Isaiah Thomas - 95
David Robinson - 95
Clyde Drexler - 94
Patrick Ewing - 94
Scottie Pippen - 93
Chris Webber - 93
Kevin McHale - 93
Jason Kidd - 93
Dominique Wilkins - 93
Allen Iverson - 93
Tracy McGrady - 93
Gary Payton - 93
Steve Nash - 93
Carmelo Anothony - 93
Alonzo Mourning - 93
Vince Carter - 92
[SIZE="4"][B]Lebron James - 92[/B][/SIZE]
Bernard King - 92
Chris Paul - 92
Alex English - 92
Derrick Rose - 92
Kevin Johnson - 91
Paul Pierce - 91
Sidney Moncrief - 91
Dwight Howard - 90
Joe Dumars - 90
Ray Allen - 90
Grant Hill - 90
Penny Hardaway - 90
Chris Mullin - 90
Tim Hardaway - 90
Mitch Richmond - 89
Russell Westbrook - 89
Pau Gasol - 89
Adrian Dantley - 89
Rasheed Wallace - 88
Brandon Roy - 88
Amare Stoudemire - 88
Rajon Rondo - 88
LaMarcus Aldridge - 88
Tony Parker - 88
James Worthy - 88
Chauncey Billups - 88
Kenyon Martin - 88
Blake Griffin - 88
Stephen Curry - 88
Reggie Miller - 88
Elton Brand - 88[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Duggrr]Your personal ratings for players (peak seasons) 88 or over since 1980? Purely as players and not accolades. I'm sure i'll forget a few guys.

Michael Jordan - 99
LeBron James - 98
Larry Bird - 97
Hakeem Olajuwon - 97
Tim Duncan - 97
Kevin Garnett - 97
Shaquille O'Neal - 97
Moses Malone - 97
Kobe Bryant - 97
Magic Johnson - 96
Karl Malone - 96
Charles Barkley - 96
Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 95
Dirk Nowitzki - 95
Julius Erving - 95
Isaiah Thomas - 95
David Robinson - 95
Clyde Drexler - 95
Dwayne Wade - 95
Patrick Ewing - 94
Kevin Durant - 94
Scottie Pippen - 93
Chris Webber - 93
Kevin McHale - 93
Jason Kidd - 93
Dominique Wilkins - 93
Allen Iverson - 93
Tracy McGrady - 93
Gary Payton - 93
Steve Nash - 93
Carmelo Anothony - 93
Alonzo Mourning - 93
Vince Carter - 92
Bernard King - 92
Chris Paul - 92
Alex English - 92
Derrick Rose - 92
Kevin Johnson - 91
Paul Pierce - 91
Sidney Moncrief - 91
Dwight Howard - 90
Joe Dumars - 90
Ray Allen - 90
Grant Hill - 90
Penny Hardaway - 90
Chris Mullin - 90
Tim Hardaway - 90
Mitch Richmond - 89
Russell Westbrook - 89
Pau Gasol - 89
Adrian Dantley - 89
Rasheed Wallace - 88
Brandon Roy - 88
Amare Stoudemire - 88
Rajon Rondo - 88
LaMarcus Aldridge - 88
Tony Parker - 88
James Worthy - 88
Chauncey Billups - 88
Kenyon Martin - 88
Blake Griffin - 88
Stephen Curry - 88
Reggie Miller - 88
Elton Brand - 88


Bold any names that you think are completely blasphemy![/QUOTE]
In terms of relative ranking, I don't think Lebron's peak was *that* much better to warrant his own level above a few 97 players, such as Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan. I'd have all three of those guys 98 for example.

1980 Kareem was also about his prime level, definitely better than both Malones/Barkley. Since this would be his peak year of the 80s, 95 is too low, I'd have him at least 97. I mean...Drexler is at 95 and he sure was hell wasn't ever as good as 1980 Kareem.

Kenyon Martin being on the same level as people like Worthy also feels weird. Maybe I'm underrating him. I always thought Elton Brand's peak was a bit better.

Isiah feels 2 points too high. Magic feels like a 97, he's better than Karl at his peak.

Penny's peak is too low at 90, he should be a 93 at least.

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Do you have any idea how good 92 is? That is superstar level.

[QUOTE=Lord Bean]Do you have any idea how good 92 is? That is superstar level.[/QUOTE]
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