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[QUOTE=chosen_one6]Crazy that his mom attacked him for no reason. Bible thumpers can be the meanest people behind closed doors, then get on their knees and pray for forgiveness because of their f*cked up ways. Lunatics I tell you...[/QUOTE]
This
One minute they're at church listening to the Word of God on how we should love our neighbor and that we are all children of God and the next they're spewing out words like f*ggots, ni*gers, sp*cs, k*kes...:facepalm
"You can talk about all the scientific stuff you want to.. Im gonna go by the word of God."
:facepalm fkin dumb b!tch
This ni[COLOR="Black"]gga's[/COLOR] dad called him a queer tho, that's fcked up
This kid is stupid. How is putting a roof over your head, providing for you and making sure your safe not raising you?
Dat f[COLOR="Black"]ag[/COLOR] logic.
I kinda feel sorry for the parents. I dont agree with their religious beliefs, but the thought of your son sucking *** out of another mans pe[COLOR="Black"]ni[/COLOR]s and letting another man ram his c[COLOR="Black"]oc[/COLOR]k up his asshole, filling it with semen must be devastating as a parent.
religious people are fcking idiots. Thank God that most Christians today are pretty secular and the dumbass hicks are stuck in poor communities
[QUOTE=Nanners]there is no way that being gay is a choice. "oh i want to be ostracized by my community, disowned by my parents, etc, i am going to choose to be gay."
even if being gay was a choice, that still doesnt give people the right to tell someone else to stop being gay.[/QUOTE]
You should read this link*. Just a small part:
An area of particularly strong public interest is the genetic basis of homosexuality. Evidence from twin studies does in fact support the conclusion that heritable factors play a role in male homosexuality. However, the likelihood that the identical twin of a homosexual male will also be gay is about 20% (compared with 2-4 percent of males in the general population), indicating that sexual orientation is genetically influenced but not hardwired by DNA, and that whatever genes are involved represent predispositions, not predeterminations.
Science still can't anwser it precisely. It's not just a choice, but it's also not just genetic. There are genetic factors, but there's also social influence (for instance, abused boys tend to be gay in a higher % than the rest of the male population*2). If it was just genetic, identical twins would always be both gay or at least much closer to 100% (closer and not 100%, because some would just lie that they are straight) than just 20%.
But I agree with you that the "origin" of homossexuality does not matter. Gay people do exist and they should be respected and have equal rights as straight people.
*[url]http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2008/09/30/what-did-francis-collins-really-say-about-homosexuality/[/url]
2*[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19130206[/url]
[QUOTE=lakers_forever]You should read this link*. Just a small part:
An area of particularly strong public interest is the genetic basis of homosexuality. Evidence from twin studies does in fact support the conclusion that heritable factors play a role in male homosexuality. However, the likelihood that the identical twin of a homosexual male will also be gay is about 20% (compared with 2-4 percent of males in the general population), indicating that sexual orientation is genetically influenced but not hardwired by DNA, and that whatever genes are involved represent predispositions, not predeterminations.
Science still can't anwser it precisely. It's not just a choice, but it's also not just genetic. There are genetic factors, but there's also social influence (for instance, abused boys tend to be gay in a higher % than the rest of the male population*2). If it was just genetic, identical twins would always be both gay or at least much closer to 100% (closer and not 100%, because some would just lie that they are straight) than just 20%.
But I agree with you that the "origin" of homossexuality does not matter. Gay people do exist and they should be respected and have equal rights as straight people.
*[url]http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2008/09/30/what-did-francis-collins-really-say-about-homosexuality/[/url]
2*[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19130206[/url][/QUOTE]
yeah, but we should note that the fact that it does not appear to be genetic does not mean it is a choice. you mention social influence as a factor, people dont have a choice about whether or not they will be abused as a child.
[QUOTE=lakers_forever]You should read this link*. Just a small part:
An area of particularly strong public interest is the genetic basis of homosexuality. Evidence from twin studies does in fact support the conclusion that heritable factors play a role in male homosexuality. However, the likelihood that the identical twin of a homosexual male will also be gay is about 20% (compared with 2-4 percent of males in the general population), indicating that sexual orientation is genetically influenced but not hardwired by DNA, and that whatever genes are involved represent predispositions, not predeterminations.
Science still can't anwser it precisely. It's not just a choice, but it's also not just genetic. There are genetic factors, [B]but there's [U]also[/U] social influence[/B] (for instance, abused boys tend to be gay in a higher % than the rest of the male population*2). If it was just genetic, identical twins would always be both gay or at least much closer to 100% (closer and not 100%, because some would just lie that they are straight) than just 20%.
But I agree with you that the "origin" of homossexuality does not matter. Gay people do exist and they should be respected and have equal rights as straight people.
*[url]http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2008/09/30/what-did-francis-collins-really-say-about-homosexuality/[/url]
2*[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19130206[/url][/QUOTE]
Bingo. In a lot of instances, it does become a choice but certainly not a conscious one. The notion that anyone can consciously choose to be straight or gay is ridiculous. However, a lot of gay people I have met over the years have had significant, significant issues with one parent or the other.
Of course, not every person that has significant issues with a parent turns out gay. There are a multitude of factors.
Also... these parents don't know the word of God. The way they act and think is the result of social influence and certainly not a result of acting based off of the word of God. They're the disgrace.
[QUOTE=Nanners]yeah, but we should note that the fact that it does not appear to be genetic does not mean it is a choice. you mention social influence as a factor, [B] people dont have a choice about whether or not they will be abused as a child[/B].[/QUOTE]
You are right about that.
But there are studies about other social influences other than abuse.
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You guys need to realise that attraction is not genetic. Nothing has ever been found genetically that proves people are born gay. Nothing at all. Its a myth.
Attraction occurs during your life and can change. Some guys grow up liking fat girls, some like skinny girls, some like tall girls, small girls, black girls, white girls etc. Some as we have seen on ISH like trannies, some like girls that use strap ons, and some like guys.
Humans are humans. There is no gay vs not gay, its like a spectrum with varying degrees of attraction at different points in the spectrum.
[QUOTE=lakers_forever]You are right about that.
But there are studies about other social influences other than abuse.[/QUOTE]
i havent looked at the research but it seems like homosexuality is something that develops fairly early. nobody is straight until they are 50 years old and then suddenly become gay right? so it seems that something or some combination of things from early life is responsible.
people dont have a choice about their childhood.
[QUOTE=Nanners]i havent looked at the research but it seems like homosexuality is something that develops fairly early. [B]nobody is straight until they are 50 years old and then suddenly become gay right?[/B] so it seems that something or some combination of things from early life is responsible.
people dont have a choice about their childhood.[/QUOTE]
It happens. There are guys who never knew they were gay until they were married for 10 years with kids.
[QUOTE=sweggeh]It happens. There are guys who never knew they were gay until they were married for 10 years with kids.[/QUOTE]
yeah, but i dont think those are actually people who started straight and then became gay at a late age. those people started out gay or at least confused from the start, but repressed their gayness their entire life until they finally couldnt take it anymore
I don't condone homosexuality, but those parents are sick in the head.
I'd love to beat his dad and mom down.