MJ's Stats in Each Playoff Series Against Top 5 Ranked Defenses

[QUOTE=Kvnzhangyay]Yeah peak it might be above PG, maybe even SF or PF, but longevity matters too...

just like why Duncan is ahead of a lot of other PFs[/QUOTE]

SF:

Lebron James
Larry Bird
Kevin Durant
Elgin Baylor
Dr J
Charles Barkley

How would you order that? Need to cut someone also.

[QUOTE=VengefulAngel]SF:

Lebron James
Larry Bird
Kevin Durant
Elgin Baylor
Dr J
Charles Barkley

How would you order that? Need to cut someone also.[/QUOTE]

I'd start with Chuck since he was a power forward :biggums:

[QUOTE=Kvnzhangyay]Yeah peak it might be above PG, maybe even SF or PF, but longevity matters too...

just like why Duncan is ahead of a lot of other PFs[/QUOTE]

I don't think Duncan is the best example. 03 is a top 5 Playoff run ever. No other PF approached that.

Peak PG is the weakest set I'd say. But that's a given.

Yep, he sure liked to hoist shots up. Wouldnt be surprised if especially his Finals FGA average was around or in the 30s.

[QUOTE=3ball].

MIA 1997 ECF (61-21.. #1 ranked defense.. 30.2.. 8.6.. 2.6.. 47.5% TS.. 38.7% FG)


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MJ with the earliest known dedication to Kobe this season.

[QUOTE=plowking]MJ with the earliest known dedication to Kobe this season.[/QUOTE]
just think.. that was MJ's worst playoff series ever (30.2ppg, 8.6 rebs, 47.5% TS).


otoh, lebron imitates kobe much better:


SAS 2007 Finals (22.0.. 7.0.. 6.8.. [B]42.8% TS[/B].. 35.6% FG)

DAL 2011 Finals ([B]17.8[/B].. 7.2.. 6.8.. 54.1% TS.. 47.8% FG.. and GOAT choke)


Yikes.. :eek:
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[QUOTE=3ball]i know, just think.. that was jordan's worst playoff series ever (30.2ppg, 8.6 rebs, 39% vs Miami's #1 defense).


otoh, lebron imitates kobe much better:


SAS 2007 Finals (22.0.. 7.0.. 6.8.. [B]42.8% TS[/B].. 35.6% FG)

DAL 2011 Finals ([B]17.8[/B].. 7.2.. 6.8.. 54.1% TS.. 47.8% FG.. and GOAT choke)


Yikes.. :eek:[/QUOTE]

You think he was worse in that series than in the '96 Finals?

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]You think he was worse in that series than in the '96 Finals?[/QUOTE]
MJ put the series away on the road in game 3 with a great performance. Bulls were up 3 - 0. Near impossible to lose the series by that point. He was missing a ton of gimmes. Both were poor shooting series. That Heat team, and Sonics were tremendous defensively.

[QUOTE=dubeta]Jordan and Jerry West are pretty comparable though, Jordan has the rings but West put up monster numbers as well[/QUOTE]
:roll: Repped

NBA Finals performance ... that is pretty telling.



[B]Tier 1 -> GOAT, unmatched combination of usage and offensive efficiency[/B]

[IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b6FIqFXQqDU/VIsOe3KfapI/AAAAAAAADjo/4gZVg7b_Wss/s1600/5.jpg[/IMG]


[B]Tier 2 -> dominant big men[/B]

[IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BeO2eYQi0DU/VIsOe9DngQI/AAAAAAAADjw/sDGoNvYjkNo/s1600/6.jpg[/IMG]



[B]Tier 3 -> manufactured superstars[/B]

[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5X7dz7aK8DE/VIsOe54_MxI/AAAAAAAADjk/_vNUXQTEE9c/s1600/7.jpg[/IMG]


[B] Other[/B]

[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ISznwqrtqpE/VIsOf0GYSNI/AAAAAAAADj0/VCFwfr-0VWo/s1600/8.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Anaximandro1]NBA Finals performance ... that is pretty telling.



[B]Tier 1 -> GOAT, unmatched combination of usage and offensive efficiency[/B]

[IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b6FIqFXQqDU/VIsOe3KfapI/AAAAAAAADjo/4gZVg7b_Wss/s1600/5.jpg[/IMG]


[B]Tier 2 -> dominant big men[/B]

[IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BeO2eYQi0DU/VIsOe9DngQI/AAAAAAAADjw/sDGoNvYjkNo/s1600/6.jpg[/IMG]



[B]Tier 3 -> manufactured superstars[/B]

[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5X7dz7aK8DE/VIsOe54_MxI/AAAAAAAADjk/_vNUXQTEE9c/s1600/7.jpg[/IMG]


[B] Other[/B]

[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ISznwqrtqpE/VIsOf0GYSNI/AAAAAAAADj0/VCFwfr-0VWo/s1600/8.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]


"manufactured superstars"

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[QUOTE=3ball]just think.. that was MJ's worst playoff series ever (30.2ppg, 8.6 rebs, 47.5% TS).


otoh, lebron imitates kobe much better:


SAS 2007 Finals (22.0.. 7.0.. 6.8.. [B]42.8% TS[/B].. 35.6% FG)

DAL 2011 Finals ([B]17.8[/B].. 7.2.. 6.8.. 54.1% TS.. 47.8% FG.. and GOAT choke)


Yikes.. :eek:
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[QUOTE=3ball]just think.. that was MJ's worst playoff series ever (30.2ppg, 8.6 rebs, 47.5% TS).


otoh, lebron imitates kobe much better:


SAS 2007 Finals (22.0.. 7.0.. 6.8.. [B]42.8% TS[/B].. 35.6% FG)

DAL 2011 Finals ([B]17.8[/B].. 7.2.. 6.8.. 54.1% TS.. 47.8% FG.. and GOAT choke)


Yikes.. :eek:
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ouch

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The "elite" 1988 Cleveland Cavaliers defense was as good at limiting points allowed on a per possession basis as the 2004 Atlanta Hawks (25th out of 29).

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Dat 1998 Pacers defense though.....