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[QUOTE=RoseCity07]I hope they riot. SRS. I hope a cop dies in LA over this. I won't feel bad at all. One innocent dead for another innocent. There has to be a price. Police need consequences.[/QUOTE]
After reading your posts covering the wide variety of topics ISH provides, I've come to the conclusion that you're an all around dumb dude
[QUOTE=Dresta]I hope people do riot, and hopefully they burn down [I]your[/I] house in the process for saying such a scummy thing.
Hoping for some unknown individual, whose life and personality you do not know anything about, to be murdered, in reprisal for another event that has nothing to do with you and which you know nothing about, is the sign of a real piece of shit, a petty and vengeful low-life, with a bloodlust when it comes to situations [I]which do not involve him[/I].
i.e. a coward who wants someone else to be killed (obviously, from afar) for not being as much of a coward as they are. A coward putting on a front of childish bravado is what you are. I'd like to see you go and inform the family against whom the right and just 'price' and 'reprisal' had been made, and that whoever's father/husband/son/brother had been killed to even up the score and satisfy your piece of mind.
That's how the tribal societies of old used to live (a life would be sacrificed to balance things out, to bring peace between tribes). I see this tribal instinct still runs hot in your blood. I'm only glad we have a Constitutional framework that specifically guards against such petty tribalism, and seeks to protect the rights of the individual against such arbitrary nonsense.[/QUOTE]
Ether
I work in downtown LA occasionally, sometimes at night, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the homeless here. They are dangerous to the people working here, and dangerous to themselves. They need to be forcibly moved somewhere else.
Most the transients who camp out in the fashion district, are severely mentally ill, and highly aggressive. If you are a weak bum, you won't survive in downtown LA at night. You can hear them hooting, hollering, and preying on each other in the middle of the night, it's crazy. And 95% of the people who work in the areas the transients inhabit in downtown LA are Latino and Asian yet 90% of the transients on the street at night are black and 10% are white in my observations. Not that their aren't some bums who are Latino or Asian, but because of their smaller statures, or because they have some semblance of family who will take them in, they disappear at night. It's a good thing too because they wouldn't survive at night here on the outlying areas of tent city, at least not without a strong pimp.
[QUOTE=Meticode]If he got a hold of a gun, the shooting was justified in my eyes. I'm curious if he got a hold of it because it sounded lik they were tasering him right before the shots.
In any case, this happens, every day, all over the world. Put aside race, religion, creed, beliefs, whatever...it's in our destiny to destroy each other. And will continue doing so. Our loved ones will die, people we don't know ever existed will die. Can you live in a world like this?[/QUOTE]
Ya thats how I feel. If he was going for a gun, it was justified to use lethal force on him.
If he wasnt going for a gun they shouldnt have and it was murder.
M[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Ya thats how I feel. If he was going for a gun, it was justified to use lethal force on him.
If he wasnt going for a gun they shouldnt have and it was murder.[/QUOTE]
So if a guy is swinging and kicking at cops (as witnesses have claimed), theyre supposed to just go ahead and take it, right? Forget whether the guy is on angel dust or has some kind of weapon in his pocketor whatever, if hes attacking you and you dont see a gun, just go ahead an wrassle with him! That'll work out real well. Its a brilliant idea, really. Cops vs violent, belligerent suspects wrasslin in the street! Thats a great idea to be having guys with wives and kids gettin down wit aganst crackhead nutjobs.
Afterall cops are authority figures so it sounds so cool and edgy when you criticise them! Yeah!
[QUOTE=Dresta]I hope people do riot, and hopefully they burn down [I]your[/I] house in the process for saying such a scummy thing.
Hoping for some unknown individual, whose life and personality you do not know anything about, to be murdered, in reprisal for another event that has nothing to do with you and which you know nothing about, is the sign of a real piece of shit, a petty and vengeful low-life, with a bloodlust when it comes to situations [I]which do not involve him[/I].
i.e. a coward who wants someone else to be killed (obviously, from afar) for not being as much of a coward as they are. A coward putting on a front of childish bravado is what you are. I'd like to see you go and inform the family against whom the right and just 'price' and 'reprisal' had been made, and that whoever's father/husband/son/brother had been killed to even up the score and satisfy your piece of mind.
That's how the tribal societies of old used to live (a life would be sacrificed to balance things out, to bring peace between tribes). I see this tribal instinct still runs hot in your blood. I'm only glad we have a Constitutional framework that specifically guards against such petty tribalism, and seeks to protect the rights of the individual against such arbitrary nonsense.[/QUOTE]
Eye for an eye. Cop dies. Was he innocent? Well so was this guy on the street. No weapon. Homeless. Cops murdered him. There needs to be a price for this. Cops keep doing this and they think they can get away with it. Enough is enough.
[QUOTE=RoseCity07][B]Eye for an eye. Cop dies. Was he innocent? Well so was this guy on the street.[/B] No weapon. Homeless. Cops murdered him. There needs to be a price for this. Cops keep doing this and they think they can get away with it. Enough is enough.[/QUOTE]Luckily for us, the legal system doesn't work in such an arbitrary way so as to have reprisals after every killing or murder :oldlol:.
It seems you want to live under a form of tribal law, where instead of trial by jury and the assumption of innocence, we get tribal leaders sacrificing one of their own as a form of restitution to the family of the first victim.
I suggest you go live in ISIS territory, as it's the kind of law they practice. If that's the kind of place you want to live in, then so be it, but give up the petty self-righteousness because you're just a massive shitstain, pure and simple.
[QUOTE]Less than an hour before he was killed Sunday, a nearby security camera showed Africa apparently dealing drugs -- the sad & only real currency of Skid Row's economy.
The footage then shows Africa getting into a fight with the man in the orange tent next to him, violently tipping the tent & kicking the man. Police arrive and talk to Africa, but he jumps into the tent -- prompting officers to draw their guns.
Africa then jumps out, swinging his arms at police. LA police say he tried to grab an officer's gun, & that's when he was shot.
LA Police Chief Charlie Beck called the incident "[I]an extreme tragedy.[/I]"
"[I]We feel great compassion in the LAPD for people who live in conditions of homelessness, & often mental illness, with no treatment,[/I]" Beck said.
"[I]We prepare our officers to deal as best they can with them, but the reality is this is much more than a problem that the police alone can solve.[/I]"
Rev. Andy Bales, Union Rescue Mission CEO, said the dismal conditions of LA's Skid Row makes it a tinder box for more problems.
"[I]There is no other major city in the US that has a skid row like ours[/I]," he said.
"[I]2,000 human beings living on the street. Until we deal with that, we're going to continue to have an explosive situation[/I]."
It's unclear when the Coroner's office will release Africa's real name.
From there, it's unclear where Africa's remains will go.
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horrible way to live your life. being homeless seems like hell on earth.
[QUOTE=BRabbiT][B]"There is no other major city in the US that has a skid row like ours,"[/B] he said.
[B]"2,000 human beings living on the street. Until we deal with that, we're going to continue to have an explosive situation." [/B][/QUOTE]
You know, it's funny, years ago George Carlin "joked" that we should just wall off big plots of land in the middle of nowhere in America, and send these people there. And because it's Carlin, liberals eat that shit up coming from him, because Carlin is cool, and it's cool to like Carlin, and he's immune to criticism from liberals.
Of course, if someone TODAY said the exact same thing, even in a comedy routine, he'd probably be boo'd mercilessly by realmenweargreen, rose city, deucewallaces, and other PVSSY F@GGOTS who have to take the sensitive opinion always because they're scared of being criticized. Have you ever wondered WHY those guys are always on the liberal side? It's not because of independent analysis and conclusion, it's becuase that's the politically correct [I]safe[/I] side, and they are [I]afraid[/I] to give opinions that could lead them to be excluded or ostricized from their group of peers. They're weak beta men, they're herd animals, they need the shelter that groupthink provides them. Intelligent people, or even other people who might not be all that bright but have other thigns going for them which give them confidence, can say '**** it, i'm giving my opinion.' But LOSER MEN like deuce, droid, rmwg, sarcastic, etc. they're literally towing a line of dogma because they've probably been ridiculed all their childhood and finally found some peers to accept them as adults (a support network of betas if you will), and they're afraid to get shut out of it by saying somethign insensitive! Waaahh! THe irony of course is that dogma includes liking Carlin, who, if we could posthumously give him a lie detector test, would almost certainly have been more serious than not when he proposed that idea in his bit.
Now of course he probably wouldn't have supported anything that extreme in a literal sense, and neither do I, but the point if that we have to look for solutions that might not be so sensitive, might not be so warm and cozy in the immediate term. The right answer isn't always the easy answer, and sometimes people have conflicted agendas and you just have to deal with it. Maybe people with homes and people without homes are going to view this thing differently. Well, we can try to compromise and accommodate to a point, but considering people with homes far outnumber those without, if the debate on solutions reaches an impasse I think it's fair for people to say "yeah well this is how we want it so this is how we're gonna MAKE it" even if homeless people and loser liberals who need somethign to cry about with play the victim/sympathy card because homeless are the little guy.
It's just amazing how many obstacles we avoid in our society because you get meek, insecure, needy losers who desperately take the PC position because it's the only thing that can possibly define them, since they are otherwise sooooo unbelievably soft, vapid, and beta. Like if you asked Lamar Doom for an opinion on this shit, maybe he'd do the right thing and say "i dont have one" but if you really forced him to say something, he'd probably just repeat whatever the liberal line is. That's called a safety mechanism. It's not because he's some profound analyzer of social quandaries, he's just going with the safest most sensitive opinion because he knows that shields him from any backlash. And we've got TOOONNNNSSSSS of these people in AMerica. Many of them do it simply to stand out in from of females, since they aren't going to win any masculinity competitions anyway, they might as well try and take a different angle to impress girls since women tend to be far more liberal on average.
I dunno, the shit is wild. The world could be so much better if everyone were smart and logical, but alas, it is not meant to be :(
lol@africa .. lets be real .. they did this guy a favor and his neighbor a favor .. probably would've killed him or maimed his ass eventually
[QUOTE=BRabbiT]horrible way to live your life. being homeless seems like hell on earth.[/QUOTE]
absolute worst .. and I don't see how you can get out of that once you're there .. especially if you don't have any friends/family and/or have mental problems .. you're pretty much fkd
Watch the video and tell me that if the homeless man cooperated he would be alive today. Somebody, anybody.
People are so fuhcking stupid. Don't put hands on police, don't try to fight them, don't try to take their guns and you will be alive. It's not fuhcking rocket science, but for some it is just too tough a concept to grasp.
[QUOTE=Akrazotile]M
So if a guy is swinging and kicking at cops (as witnesses have claimed), theyre supposed to just go ahead and take it, right? Forget whether the guy is on angel dust or has some kind of weapon in his pocketor whatever, if hes attacking you and you dont see a gun, just go ahead an wrassle with him! That'll work out real well. Its a brilliant idea, really. Cops vs violent, belligerent suspects wrasslin in the street! Thats a great idea to be having guys with wives and kids gettin down wit aganst crackhead nutjobs.
Afterall cops are authority figures so it sounds so cool and edgy when you criticise them! Yeah![/QUOTE]
lol @ bringing up the cop's wives and kids. Do these assholes want a cookie?
Of course they should wrestle with unarmed suspects. They're UNARMED. What part of "this is a job" are you dimwits not getting? If they don't like the inherent dangers that come with being a police officer, they should quit. Isn't that what you Limbaugh fangirls say to Walmart workers? If they're afraid of losing their pension, I don't care.
What's next? "Sorry sir, I had to shoot the guy--he was making me run after him!! What if I trip and land face first on the pavement chasing after him? That would prevent me from going home to see my kids!" - GTFOH with that shit.
If the man was reaching for a gun, that's another story. But shooting guys who are only kicking and screaming is murder period.
Cooperate with police, live to see another day.
Fight with Police, try and grab their gun, risk getting shot
That's the way it is. That's the way it should be. That's the way it will always be.
It's not fuhcking rocket science. It's called reality. It's necessary. We should not be making it easier for criminals, we should not be protecting and sympathizing with criminals who attack other civilians and then attack police. Get fuhcking real. Get real. Get fuhcking real
[QUOTE=Akrazotile]M
So if a guy is swinging and kicking at cops (as witnesses have claimed), theyre supposed to just go ahead and take it, right? Forget whether the guy is on angel dust or has some kind of weapon in his pocketor whatever, if hes attacking you and you dont see a gun, just go ahead an wrassle with him! That'll work out real well. Its a brilliant idea, really. Cops vs violent, belligerent suspects wrasslin in the street! Thats a great idea to be having guys with wives and kids gettin down wit aganst crackhead nutjobs.
Afterall cops are authority figures so it sounds so cool and edgy when you criticise them! Yeah![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]So if a guy is swinging and kicking at cops (as witnesses have claimed), theyre supposed to just go ahead and take it, right?[/QUOTE]
Somewhat depends on the situation. In general yes, punches and kicks aren