Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final

[QUOTE=Euroleague][B]He's Michael Jordan of Euroleague [I]at minimum[/I].[/B] Same effect Jordan had, only with vastly inferior team, with much harder defense rules, much more strict refs, and against other teams that are much better than his team by comparison.[/QUOTE]

Let's be real, Spanoulis is past his prime.

He brought his A game in the last quarter alone and it was enough to decide the winner.

The way Euroleague basketball is played is that you simply can't have dominant scorers. It's soo different than the NBA.

The rotations are tighter, star players don't have nearly as much freedom as in the NBA. It's awfully difficult to score.

It's not only the physicality and the rules, it's the fact that you don't have the requisite number of touches or the freedom to create and try.

I honestly think Kentucky or Duke wouldn't score more than 30 points in such a setting. With the defensive intensity these two teams played tonight, they would beat the top NCAA teams by 50.

It's like comparing oranges to apples.

[QUOTE=fandarko]You don't have a clue, it's a completely different game.

It's too tight and physical, the paint is crowded (no defensive 3 seconds), they should make some changes to the rules.

No NBA team would have an easy time against these 4 Euroleague teams under such rules.[/QUOTE]
So in a league where there is more spacing and worse defense Spanoulis could only average 2.8 ppg a game and couldn't even beat out Rafer Alston for a starting guard spot? :confusedshrug:

Euroleague is a ****ing joke. I'd rather watch the WNBA, much higher level of basketball.

Is he better than the other Euroleague Michael Jordan aka Anthony Parker?
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[QUOTE=Milbuck]Right, and also in a league with high school JV level competition.[/QUOTE]

CSKA

SF Sonny Weems/Andrei Kirilenko
PF Andrei Vorontsevich/Victor Khryapa

When healthy, 3 of 4 players are better than Nikola Mirotic, and the one that is not (Weems) is 10 times less of a pu$$y than Mirotic is and is also better than him on defense. Which means he could actually be more useful than him in serious basketball.

Yet, Mirotic was out there in the Bulls - Cavs playoffs series quite a bit, and people are claiming the Bulls want to fire Thibodeau for not playing him more....

Yeah, that is some "high school JV level competition".....

[B]Lay off the crack pipe.[/B]

:biggums:

[QUOTE=Euroleague]CSKA

SF Sonny Weems/Andrei Kirilenko
PF Andrei Vorontsevich/Victor Khryapa

When healthy, 3 of 4 players are better than Nikola Mirotic, and the one that is not (Weems) is 10 times less of a pu$$y than Mirotic is and is also better than him on defense. Which means he could actually be more useful than him in serious basketball.

Yet, Mirotic was out there in the Bulls - Cavs playoffs series quite a bit, and people are claiming the Bulls want to fire Thibodeau for not playing him more....

Yeah, that is some "high school JV level competition".....

[B]Lay off the crack pipe.[/B]

:biggums:[/QUOTE]
Mirotic is the 2nd greatest Euroleague player of all time just behind Giannis. Show some respect.

[QUOTE=fandarko]Let's be real, Spanoulis is past his prime.

He brought his A game in the last quarter alone and it was enough to decide the winner.

The way Euroleague basketball is played is that you simply can't have dominant scorers. It's soo different than the NBA.

The rotations are tighter, star players don't have nearly as much freedom as in the NBA. It's awfully difficult to score.

It's not only the physicality and the rules, it's the fact that you don't have the requisite number of touches or the freedom to create and try.

I honestly think Kentucky or Duke wouldn't score more than 30 points in such a setting. With the defensive intensity these two teams played tonight, they would beat the top NCAA teams by 50.

It's like comparing oranges to apples.[/QUOTE]

I meant by impact.

Spanoulis is not past his prime. He actually gets better every year, similar to players like Nash and Olajuwon.

CSKA simply put huge and extremely athletic defenders on him and stacked the paint (not even allowed under NBA rules) and then if he made a drive, they sent 2 weak side shot blockers at him.

It just took him awhile to figure out tactically what their defense was, which was quite smart by Itoudis, who knows him extremely well, since he coached him for 4 years in a club and also several years in national team play.

Once he figured out what they were doing, he took his time and picked the hell out of them, by taking Vorontsevich and De Colo out on the elbow in ISO where they could not get help on switches and no weak side help either. Then he destroyed them.

A sophomore NBA player is better than the Euroleague GOAT. Let that sink in.

[QUOTE=24-Inch_Chrome]A sophomore NBA player is better than the Euroleague GOAT. Let that sink in.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol:

seriously, who watches that shit? and why does op feel devotion?

Spanoulis was 4/15 shooting the ball (26%) if anyone cares.

[QUOTE=24-Inch_Chrome]Euroleague is a ****ing joke. I'd rather watch the WNBA, much higher level of basketball.[/QUOTE]

You clearly don't have a clue, any debate is pointless.

Like I said, it's a completely different game.

You should ask any US player who plays there how hard it is to score the ball.

How complicated it is to get minutes.

A child would say "Harden would average 30 there".

But Harden wouldn't play more than 27-28 minutes in a top Euroleague team.

He would have to play defense.

He wouldn't get nearly as many touches.

He would have to rely more on his outside scoring, forget about driving to the basket as much as he does.

Forget about having the green light to shoot it every time you want.

It's team first.

Granted, the top 20-40 players would be equally successful (thought their numbers would probably be slightly down).

But for everybody else - it would be a complicated process to adjust, if ever.

Because IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAME.

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]:oldlol:

seriously, who watches that shit? and why does op feel devotion?[/QUOTE]

Hicks from Arkansas and people in Europe who don't get the NBA on TV. :lol

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Spanoulis was 4/15 shooting the ball (26%) if anyone cares.[/QUOTE]

He scored these four field goals in the clutch (3-3 from three and 1-1 from two).

Without having watched the game you can't grasp the level of intensity and pressure. It was point for point.

Spanoulis shot 26%, Printezis carried him once again (just like he did vs Barca hitting the game winner).

4-15, 26%.

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:sleeping

NBA > NCAA > WNBA > High School basketball > Euroleague.