Distance traveled per 48 minutes - Lebron's is a league-bottom 3.0 miles

Still 3 miles more than I run in a day.

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Their are so many factors that we can simply say that Lebron does not expend as much energy as off ball players. If isolated every variable except for distance ran and test their energy expenditure than you can that Lebron does not expend energy but you cannot so your analysis is bias.


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Again, Kawhi does all the things you say Lebron does, AND he runs an extra 1/2 mile per game.

And as you can see from the gifs above, scoring off-ball uses more energy than just running a longer distance.


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Also Lebron plays much more minutes than those players

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The stat measures PER 48 MINUTES - so playing time has nothing to do with it.. Stop being biased and turning a blind eye to the facts.

is op retarded? do u really think a half mile over a 48 minute basis is that tiring? it's not the running part that's tiring. i can run around a basketball court for 48 minutes with little to no trouble.

Damn, I guess JJ Redick > LeBron.

[QUOTE=3ball]Again, Kawhi does all the things you say Lebron does, AND he runs an extra 1/2 mile per game.

And as you can see from the gifs above, scoring off-ball uses more energy than just running a longer distance.



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What facts your facts mean nothing without actually testing. You acting like your hypothesis is fact. For it to be fact you have actually test by isolating the variables. Kawhi might do the same things but you have to test it to consider it to be considered facts. You are trying to act like a scientist but you are just using observations that are not rooted in cold hard statistics to make your point.

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[B]Damn, I guess JJ Redick > LeBron.[/B]


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For athletic players like MJ, off-ball play often requires MORE athleticism than ball-dominance does.
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sounds like GOAT-tier navigation effiency paired with an excellent equal-opportunity running style

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sounds like GOAT-tier navigation effiency paired with an excellent equal-opportunity running style


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In addition to running an extra half mile per game, elite off-ball play requires the elite athleticism seen above, along with superior skill and smarts.

Accordingly, it's much harder than today's AAU, playground-style ball-dominance..

Look at the gif above - MJ's relentless off-ball game created an assist for Toni and increased the playmaking capacity of the team.. His off-ball game allowed his teammates to partake in the playmaking process, which made them bigger threats and increased strategic options... Hence, 6/6... :applause: :bowdown:

[QUOTE=3ball]0.5 miles is a ton - it's 20% more than Lebron every game..

And it isn't just Curry - it's ALL off-ball players - Korver, Danny Green, Kawhi, etc.. Off-ball players travel about 20% further in games than ball-dominators like Lebron, Harden, CP3, etc.

So the notion that Lebron expended so much energy "running the show" for Cleveland is proven wrong by the stats... The stats also prove that even though ball-dominators travel the least distances in games, they still have the highest time of possession, which proves they stand around a lot.[/QUOTE]
Nope. It's closer to 15%.

Korver, Green, Curry, etc.. What do they all have in common? They constantly run around screens to get open for a 3. That's why they run more than most players. Kobe, LeBron, KD, etc. don't need to. That's not their game. Also, those players are like 50lbs lighter than LeBron. If you still can't figure it out, I can't help you.

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Nope. It's closer to 15%.

Korver, Green, Curry, etc.. What do they all have in common? They constantly run around screens to get open for a 3. That's why they run more than most players. Kobe, LeBron, KD, etc. don't need to. That's not their game. Also, those players are like 50lbs lighter than LeBron. If you still can't figure it out, I can't help you.


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In addition to running an extra half mile per game, elite off-ball play FOR ATHLETIC PLAYERS requires the elite athleticism seen above, along with superior skill and smarts.

Accordingly, it's much harder than today's AAU, playground-style ball-dominance.

Look at the gif above where MJ dunks on Shaq - MJ's relentless off-ball game created an assist for Toni, which made him a bigger threat, and increased the playmaking capacity of the team.. His off-ball game allowed him to achieve elite stats within an equal-opportunity offense that was run well enough to go 6/6.
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[I]Despite having the [url=http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/possessions/?sort=TOP&dir=1&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs]highest time of possession[/url] per game, ball-dominators like Lebron, Harden, and CP3 actually travel the [url=http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/speed/?sort=DIST_48&dir=1]least distance[/url] each game, presumably because they stand around half the time pounding the rock and not actually going anywhere..

Of course, we already know that in Lebron's case, he's a SF, so his ball-dominance turns a normally high-assisted position into a low-assisted one, which has served to drastically reduce his team's [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385446]assist frequency[/url] relative to his peers. [/I]

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I'm OBSESSED with LeBron and my life is absolutely pointless without him.[/QUOTE]

:applause:

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[I]Despite having the [url=http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/possessions/?sort=TOP&dir=1&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs]highest time of possession[/url] per game, ball-dominators like Lebron, Harden, and CP3 actually travel the [url=http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/speed/?sort=DIST_48&dir=1]least distance[/url] each game, presumably because they stand around half the time pounding the rock and not actually going anywhere..

Of course, we already know that in Lebron's case, he's a SF, so his ball-dominance turns a normally high-assisted position into a low-assisted one, which has served to drastically reduce his team's [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385446]assist frequency[/url] relative to his peers. [/I][/QUOTE]

Wow, 3ball just took a big dump on Branstans and all they can do is sit there, hold the L, and take it. I honestly expected a better rebuttal, but the mad scientist just found another way to use facts to prove a solid point.

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[I]Despite having the [url=http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/possessions/?sort=TOP&dir=1&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs]highest time of possession[/url] per game, ball-dominators like Lebron, Harden, and CP3 actually travel the [url=http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/speed/?sort=DIST_48&dir=1]least distance[/url] each game, presumably because they stand around half the time pounding the rock and not actually going anywhere..

Of course, we already know that in Lebron's case, he's a SF, so his ball-dominance turns a normally high-assisted position into a low-assisted one, which has served to drastically reduce his team's [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385446]assist frequency[/url] relative to his peers. [/I][/QUOTE]

I'm a HUGE le[B]BRONZE[/B] fan and I agree, we take the L on this one like usual :cry: :cry: :cry: I wish le[B]BRONZE[/B] was as good as kobe :banghead: :banghead:

exposes the fraudulent tired excuse for his 39% shooting against single coverage