The Trump Border Wall Saga

Wait wait..

So the president can declare emergency to get something done and if Congress votes to stop that, the president can veto that Congressional vote.

How is that exactly constitutional? Was it even in the original Constitution? It pretty much gives the president a blank check over Congress. Only the courts can stop it then..

Imagine the sort of precedent it sets if the courts allow it.. Some future president can declare emergency for healthcare spending being out of control and try to pass national healthcare that way. Someone can declare emergency for military industrial complex and try to get funding slashed. What about something for climate change or for college loans or other stuff? We can see some crazy stuff potentially :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]The wall is the dumbest shit ever

Thankfully we will have that dummy in office for 2 more years[/QUOTE]

Easy to say that from the NE.

[QUOTE=Hawker]Easy to say that from the NE.[/QUOTE]
i live in a state that borders mexico, can confirm the fence is the dumbest sh1t ever.

[QUOTE=highwhey]i live in a state that borders mexico, can confirm the fence is the dumbest sh1t ever.[/QUOTE]
yup

[QUOTE=bladefd]Wait wait..

So the president can declare emergency to get something done and if Congress votes to stop that, the president can veto that Congressional vote.

How is that exactly constitutional? Was it even in the original Constitution? It pretty much gives the president a blank check over Congress. Only the courts can stop it then..

Imagine the sort of precedent it sets if the courts allow it.. Some future president can declare emergency for healthcare spending being out of control and try to pass national healthcare that way. Someone can declare emergency for military industrial complex and try to get funding slashed. What about something for climate change or for college loans or other stuff? We can see some crazy stuff potentially :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

This isn't the first national emergency btw.

[QUOTE=highwhey]i live in a state that borders mexico, can confirm the fence is the dumbest sh1t ever.[/QUOTE]

Lot of texans would disagree with you as well.

Jus' saying.

[QUOTE=Hawker]Lot of texans would disagree with you as well.

Jus' saying.[/QUOTE]
certainly not the texans that are landowners in the proposed build areas [IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/k4fq9GJx/sass2.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Hawker]This isn't the first national emergency btw.[/QUOTE]

First one over something foolish that won't stop any drugs or illegal immigration as it is touted to do..

[QUOTE=highwhey]certainly not the texans that are landowners in the proposed build areas [IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/k4fq9GJx/sass2.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

That's legit.

But this isn't the first time the federal government has used force on landowners.

[QUOTE=bladefd]First one over something foolish that won't stop any drugs or illegal immigration as it is touted to do..[/QUOTE]

I'd really doubt that. Not that you're actually in favor of decreasing illegal immigration anyway.

[QUOTE=Hawker]I'd really doubt that. Not that you're actually in favor of decreasing illegal immigration anyway.[/QUOTE]

Illegal immigration in-flow has already been at a decline for over a decade.. It's a [URL="http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/"]fact[/URL] that the Lil Donny administration seems allergic to because it goes against their bogeyman narrative of rapists, gangsters, killers & terrorists coming in from Mexico.

[QUOTE=Hawker]That's legit.

But this isn't the first time the federal government has used force on landowners.[/QUOTE]
i'm not against border security measures, i'm against this idiot doing whatever it takes to get his symbol and re-election ticket.

the effectiveness of adding 55 more miles to the fence is not even arguable, it's not going to do jack sh1t.

i wish magafam was smart enough to realize that the only ones getting shafted over this fence addition will be americans (some of them losing their land and the rest of us wasting taxpayer money).

mexicans and other illegal immigrants will continue to cross the border illegally through the open 1,200 miles that exists.

[QUOTE=highwhey]
the effectiveness of adding 55 more miles to the fence is not even arguable, it's not going to do jack sh1t. [/QUOTE]

promised a big, beautiful border wall.

got hustled into accepting [URL="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/congress-reaches-deal-to-fund-quarter-of-trump-border-wall"][B]55 more miles of the great wall of dubya[/B][/URL].

it's been an honor watching the art of the deal in action, in real time.
































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[QUOTE=bladefd]Illegal immigration in-flow has already been at a decline for over a decade.. It's a [URL="http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/"]fact[/URL] that the Lil Donny administration seems allergic to because it goes against their bogeyman narrative of rapists, gangsters, killers & terrorists coming in from Mexico.[/QUOTE]


Every year I hear stories on the news about groups of illegals dying in the back of trucks as theyre smuggled in through 110 degree weather like cattle.

It also may be so that fewer people simply volunteer such information over the last decade.

Even if it hs declined, it doesnt matter what is happening right at this moment. It’s a big picture issue. For our own safety and economic stability we have to be in control of the country’s border. Anything can happen in the future.

Youre just not intelligent enough to stray from the mainstream narrative. Youre afraid to be called a racist, just like they want. Youre filled with a phony superiority for taking an auto-pilot opposite stance to whatever Trump says, just like they want.

Youre a try hard. A dumb sheep, a beta, and a POSER. Just like they want.

[QUOTE=highwhey]i'm not against border security measures, i'm against this idiot doing whatever it takes to get his symbol and re-election ticket.

the effectiveness of adding 55 more miles to the fence is not even arguable, it's not going to do jack sh1t.

i wish magafam was smart enough to realize that the only ones getting shafted over this fence addition will be americans (some of them losing their land and the rest of us wasting taxpayer money).

mexicans and other illegal immigrants will continue to cross the border illegally through the open 1,200 miles that exists.[/QUOTE]


Why specifically are you so against the wall? In the big picture it’s not a big expenditure, and youre a tax-and-spend proponent anyway.

Is there like a serious, logical reason you oppose just putting up a wall on the border, the way many neighborhoods put up gates? Or people put fences around their yards? Or the way you would put an alarm system on your home?

Like do you have intelligent reasons, or are you just emotionaly triggered?