Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=Prometheus]Just think back to the common perception of LeBron James after the 2016 Finals. And then compare it to now.
After getting DESTROYED by KD two years in a row and now this absolute disaster of a season in LA...
Has anyone ever gone from ruler of all the earth to a total laughingstock in just two and a half years? It's honestly hilarious.
Kobe must be laughing SO. F*CKING. HARD. at all of it. The difference in how those two are viewed in socal has gotten even bigger! hahahahaha![/QUOTE]
He's hardley a laughing stock but he's definitely getting worse. He's not good enough to carry a team anymore without help but what 34 year old can? If you put a couple all stars around him and some good defenders that can pick up his slack on defence he can still win a chip. Not sure if he'll ever get that though
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=Bronbron23]He's hardley a laughing stock but he's definitely getting worse. He's not good enough to carry a team anymore without help but what 34 year old can? If you put a couple all stars around him and some good defenders that can pick up his slack on defence he can still win a chip. Not sure if he'll ever get that though[/QUOTE]
He was never good enough to carry a team without help from multiple all star calibre players....
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=Bronbron23]He's hardley a laughing stock but he's definitely getting worse. He's not good enough to carry a team anymore without help but what 34 year old can? If you put a couple all stars around him and some good defenders that can pick up his slack on defence he can still win a chip. Not sure if he'll ever get that though[/QUOTE]
If you replaced Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, Rondo & McGee with guys that were the same exact level of player as they currently are, and instead, the replacements were better at shooting and defending while being worse at iso scoring, all of this LeBron can't play in the West talk would evaporate over night and they would be pushing for homecourt in the West.
But... none of those guys can shoot or defend particularly well other than for brief stretches.
LeBron didn't fall off a cliff from last year to this year and it's not a result of playing in the West.
LeBron is barely two dimensional offensively and he always has been... he either shoots a three, or, you set a pick for him and he bullies his way to the basket and scores or kicks it out for three. That is his game. But this year, he has nobody to kick it to. And his defense is worse than ever.
But yeah... give him some shooters and some halfway decent defenders and the Lakers would be above 40 wins right now.
My gut tells me that this is the weakest supporting cast he's ever had in terms of shooting ability save maybe his first year or two in Cleveland as a rookie.
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=DeRozan m8]He was never good enough to carry a team without help from multiple all star calibre players....[/QUOTE] well technically no but those early cavs teams weren't great and he got 2 wins against the warriors team in 2015 with nobody.
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=Ben Simmons 25]If you replaced Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, Rondo & McGee with guys that were the same exact level of player as they currently are, and instead, the replacements were better at shooting and defending while being worse at iso scoring, all of this LeBron can't play in the West talk would evaporate over night and they would be pushing for homecourt in the West.
But... none of those guys can shoot or defend particularly well other than for brief stretches.
LeBron didn't fall off a cliff from last year to this year and it's not a result of playing in the West.
LeBron is barely two dimensional offensively and he always has been... he either shoots a three, or, you set a pick for him and he bullies his way to the basket and scores or kicks it out for three. That is his game. But this year, he has nobody to kick it to. And his defense is worse than ever.
But yeah... give him some shooters and some halfway decent defenders and the Lakers would be above 40 wins right now.
My gut tells me that this is the weakest supporting cast he's ever had in terms of shooting ability save maybe his first year or two in Cleveland as a rookie.[/QUOTE] yeah it's probably the worst team he's ever had and definitely the worst fit for his style of play.
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=Ben Simmons 25]If you replaced Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, Rondo & McGee with guys that were the same exact level of player as they currently are, and instead, the replacements were better at shooting and defending while being worse at iso scoring
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Same exact level of player, but better shooters AND defenders? So..... Better players?
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
Perhaps there was never much grace to start
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Spectacular fail regardless
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
the last person i saw that degraded as fast as lebron has this season was patrick swayze when he battled pancreatic cancer.
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=Prometheus]Just think back to the common perception of LeBron James after the 2016 Finals. And then compare it to now.
After getting DESTROYED by KD two years in a row and now this absolute disaster of a season in LA...
Has anyone ever gone from ruler of all the earth to a total laughingstock in just two and a half years? It's honestly hilarious.
Kobe must be laughing SO. F*CKING. HARD. at all of it. The difference in how those two are viewed in socal has gotten even bigger! hahahahaha![/QUOTE]
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Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
1 year he's back on top of the nba ladder. No. 1 in the West, and a top 2 mvp candidate.
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=DeRozan m8;13623616]He was never good enough to carry a team without help from multiple all star calibre players....[/QUOTE]
This guy has down syndrome.
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=SmokyMcNasty;13623599]Should've never went West. Let's be honest. He feasted on the East's weak competition. That's how he's so productive in the playoffs. Could've went to the Sixers.
Made ya bed. Now sleep in it.[/QUOTE]
Sixers are sucking this year. They are the 6th seed in the East. LeBron signing with the Lakers was always the right choice. Traded ingram, ball and hart for Anthony Davis in the off season.
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=Prometheus;13623364]Just think back to the common perception of LeBron James after the 2016 Finals. And then compare it to now.
After getting DESTROYED by KD two years in a row and now this absolute disaster of a season in LA...
Has anyone ever gone from ruler of all the earth to a total laughingstock in just two and a half years? It's honestly hilarious.
Kobe must be laughing SO. F*CKING. HARD. at all of it. The difference in how those two are viewed in socal has gotten even bigger! hahahahaha![/QUOTE]
Wait another 5+ years and the only thing LeBron will be remembered for is losing in the finals.
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=bullettooth;14000855]Wait another 5+ years and the only thing LeBron will be remembered for is losing in the finals.[/QUOTE]
You wish babyboi :lol
Re: LeBron's SPECTACULAR fall from grace
[QUOTE=Manny98;14000856]You wish babyboi :lol[/QUOTE]
Dude, it's already happening. Are you being deliberately ignorant or are you really just that dense?