Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
[QUOTE=Artillery]:oldlol: at Lakers godfather trade package consisting of injury prone Lonzo/Lavar and this cripple Ingram. Meanwhile Russell and Randle are killing it away from this toxic organization. Kobe mangled this franchise and left it in a forever broken state.[/QUOTE]
I mean you have to be a real piece of human garbage to make post after post making fun of a young kid's illness that could possibly end his career.
Mods/Jeff have you no shame? :facepalm
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
[QUOTE=Artillery]:oldlol: at Lakers godfather trade package consisting of injury prone Lonzo/Lavar and this cripple Ingram. Meanwhile Russell and Randle are killing it away from this toxic organization. Kobe mangled this franchise and left it in a forever broken state.[/QUOTE]
Imagine reading that a young, talented player may never play basketball again in his life and having these be your first thoughts about it.
You are a pathetic loser that has been absolutely TRAUMATIZED by Kobe Bryant's success since you joined this site 12 years ago. I understand that you can't grasp what it's like to have your professional career put into jeopardy since I'm sure you don't have one, but there's no room for your degenerate immaturity in these kinds of threads.
Time to put that alt back on the shelf, sad f[COLOR="Black"]a[/COLOR]ggot.
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
[quote=PCCM_29][COLOR=Gray][B]it's really important as to WHY they have it.[/B][/COLOR][/quote][COLOR=Teal][B]Pretty much. There have been cases where no clear RFs were found and were labeled "idiopathic". In this day and age though, with access to excellent medical care, that's rarely the case anymore.[/B][/COLOR]
[COLOR=Teal][B]Still, one has to wonder.. say he has a cervical rib that's causing this whole shebang. The chances of missing that on a routine x-ray in a professional athlete isn't very high. Other possible risk factors have to be ruled in/out before a definitive diagnosis is reached.[/B][/COLOR]
[COLOR=Teal][B]I'll give you this though, it's on his dominant arm, and he'd been playing more minutes lately prior to experiencing his symptoms. So there is that.[/B][/COLOR]
[COLOR=Teal][B]In general when it comes to athletes with medical conditions, it's symptoms that don't happen under stress that usually prove worse prognostically.[/B][/COLOR]
[COLOR=Teal][B]Given his age (compared to Bosh when they had DVTs) it seems they caught it early (or it happened early) and that may just be the difference between a career fulfilled or potentially cut short.
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Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
Well Doctor Suess said it so it must be true. :rolleyes:
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
[QUOTE=PCCM_29]Correct. Both Bosh and Ingram have Deep Vein Thrombosis, but it's really important as to [B]WHY they have it.[/B]
A DVT is essentially a blood clot that develops, typically when the blood in the veins have stasis (aka, not flowing around easily, such as when you're on a long plane flight). Other risk factors include being in a "hyper-coagulable state" where your blood is literally thicker than normal due to an imbalance between pro- and anti- coagulants (i.e having cancer makes your blood thicker due to excess presence of a pro-coagulant known as tissue factor; others are hereditary such as a condition known as Factor 5 Leiden; indeed getting older increases the percentage of pro-coagulants relative to anti-coagulants, thus older people are at higher risk following a long flight than younger individuals). The last major risk factor is trauma; thus DVTs are very common following surgery for example, especially hip fracture repairs where the large pelvic veins are manipulated.
Going back to Bosh and Ingram. In Bosh's condition, it appeared he had lower extremity DVTs, and perhaps flying around a lot put him at increased risk. But a lot of NBA players play frequently, so why did he of all people get a DVT? It's possible he also has a mildly hyper-coagulable state, so with both risk factors present, he began to develop blood clots. It's important to note that DVTs by and large are a Lower Extremity problem. To have DVTs in the arms are very rare, and typically occur due to the presence of some other unique risk factor.
For Ingram, he appears to likely have an anatomic anomaly, that is compressing the veins of his upper extremities and preventing normal outflow, thus promoting stasis of the blood, which led to his upper extremity DVT. [B]Contrary to what happened with Bosh[/B] because Ingram's condition appears to be an anatomic problem and the underlying blood itself is not abnormal, doing a surgical repair (decompressing an area where the vein in compressed) [B]could cure him fully[/B]. He will need to be on anti-coagulation for 3 months to help stabilize and dissolve the clot that is already present; then a more definitive therapy will be needed to ensure this does not happen again. He may need to have his left shoulder examined as well, since we are typically very symmetric in our anatomy, and if one side is narrow, the opposite outlet may also be at risk. I work in an ICU and upper extremity DVTs occur typically when we have a catheter inserted into one of the large veins of the body; rarely do DVTs occur in other situations without a clear reason.
It is conjecture that this is what is happening with Ingram, but I can't think of another reason as to why Ingram has this condition. His presentation is text book.[/QUOTE]
Is there a chance he got the DVT from a tattoo on his arm?
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
[QUOTE=G0ATbe]He should've been traded. Would've been another one of those LeBron moves that look like it could be bad in the long run but then isn't. Just like the Wiggins for Love move.[/QUOTE]
You guys have no ****ing dignity.
But I shouldn't be surprised after what I saw from you in that IT sister's death thread :facepalm .
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
the goat is Baphomet.
purify yourselves in the waters of lake titicaca. oh wait...its dead
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
pelicans almost got fleeced with that handicapped (literally) deal...
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
[QUOTE=FreezingTsmoove]Ingram is so violent and angry on his drives despite being so skinny, I am honestly not suprised this happened. Dude gives out a lot of punishment every time he drives in and he doesnt have the strength for defenders to bounce off him, they bounce into him[/QUOTE]
That's what I was thinking too. Guys are just colliding with his bones.
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
what are the odds that both players in this league who developed clots played with lebron
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
[QUOTE=bluechox2]what are the odds that both players in this league who developed clots played with lebron[/QUOTE]
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/vc8cMTi.jpg[/IMG]
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
the demons controlling lebron are powerful and nasty.
Brandon Ingram just the latest.
Re: Brandon Ingram has Paget-Schroetter syndrome
Worrying news for sure. Hope he comes through ok and can ball again.