Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=3ball]It's okay brah, Curry beats lebron in championships because he knows a better way to play basketball than lebron (ball movement, efficient offense, clutch)
So it doesn't matter that lebron can match Curry in this one area (impact on team ortg) - because lebron-ball has a much lower ceiling than curry-ball and can't win
it's apples and oranges tbh - this stat should only be used to compare winning brands of ball like Kobe/curry/durant, otherwise a bad brand/ball-domination can inflate the stat like it does for lebron[/QUOTE]
so not only do you cherry pick stats. you also cherry pick the time to use them :roll: :roll:
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE.. IN THE NBAFINALS
THREAD IS OVER :roll:
[url]https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612747/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=5[/url][/QUOTE]
Bodied!:roll: :roll:
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
3ball on a Curry meltdown binger...seriously wtf is 3balls problem? Someone needs to take away this autistic ass retards access to the internet.
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=3ball]In addition to Curry having a weaker offensive impact, as shown in the OP...
he's bad at contested jumpshots from three and midrange - his poor [url=http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13719435&postcount=32]contested efficiency[/url] means he isn't an all-time jumpshooter
and [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13681661&postcount=41]80%[/url] of his threes are open (system player), more than Dame or Harden[/QUOTE]
Sorry MJ wasn't an elite 3 point shooter :cry:
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=3ball]In addition to Curry having a weaker offensive impact, as shown in the OP...
he's bad at contested jumpshots from three and midrange - his poor [url=http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13719435&postcount=32]contested efficiency[/url] means he isn't an all-time jumpshooter
and [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13681661&postcount=41]80%[/url] of his threes are open (system player), more than Dame or Harden[/QUOTE]
Thanks for showing me the advanced stat section of basketball reference. LeBrons career VORP blows Jordan out of the water. Was always a big Jordan guy but I hate to admit it but LeBron is probably better.
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE.. IN THE NBAFINALS
THREAD IS OVER :roll:
[url]https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612747/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=5[/url][/QUOTE]
My stats are for the whole playoffs and yours are for the last 5 games only
Kobe leads the Lakers by a mile for the whole playoffs (18.0 to Odom's 11.6)
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
LeBron has more playoff points than MJ
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=3ball]My stats are for the whole playoffs and yours are for the last 5 games only
Kobe leads the Lakers by a mile for the whole playoffs (18.0 to Odom's 11.6)[/QUOTE]
OP: Cherry picks
OP when someone else does the same: :mad:
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=3ball]My stats are for the whole playoffs and yours are for the last 5 games only
Kobe leads the Lakers by a mile for the whole playoffs (18.0 to Odom's 11.6)[/QUOTE]
So he played great vs the shitty WEST TEAMS.. They play a soft brand of bball..
KOBE SHOULD NOT HAVE WON THE 2010 NBA FINALS.. He was horrid.. THANK YOU.. SO much more ammo :applause:
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=StrongLurk]OP: Cherry picks
OP when someone else does the same: :mad:[/QUOTE]
Using an entire playoff run isn't cherry-picking..
Not that it matters - Kobe's impact > Curry's.. that's all that matters
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=3ball]Using an entire playoff run isn't cherry-picking..
Not that it matters - Kobe's impact > Curry's.. that's all that matters[/QUOTE]
It is when these players have MANY playoff runs. Face it, you're a cherry picking, autistic loser.
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=3ball]Using an entire playoff run isn't cherry-picking..
Not that it matters - Kobe's impact > Curry's.. that's all that matters[/QUOTE]
How about LeBron's impact. Leading everyone in playoff points :eek:
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
[QUOTE=StrongLurk]Sorry MJ wasn't an elite 3 point shooter :cry:[/QUOTE]
MJ was good at threes:
[INDENT]1) [I]When it mattered[/I] - 43% on 3.3 attempts in 91-93' Finals.. 35.2% on 2.2 attempts in 85-93' playoffs
[I] When he tried[/I] - he attempted less than 1.5 every year except 90' and 93' when he attempted 3+ and shot 38% and 35%[/INDENT]
That's without practicing or thinking he needed it to win.. :eek:
In today's game, his 3-point shot would be as elite as his fadeaway became - he'd be all-time from 3 just like midrange