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[QUOTE=Bronbron23]So mj barely shot or worked on shooting threes but he was still as good as LeBron who works on it all the time. Good argument bro :facepalm[/QUOTE]
look how quickly they start attacking LeBron, typical Jordan stan defense mechanism :roll:
btw how would you know how much MJ worked on his 3 point shot? were you right there in the gym with him as he was practicing :oldlol:
I don't even understand what the argument is here. Op are you saying it's not in fact easier to make shots at a closer range?
[QUOTE=bigkingsfan][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k[/url]
As you can see, John Rogers exposes MJ lack of range.[/QUOTE]
Ok so we have an all star performance and a game of mj playing one on one in his 40's. Great comebacks guys :facepalm
MJ 'benefiting' from the 3point line would only make sense if:
1) He didn't win a single championship, let alone 3 of them, until the line moved in, to which one could *reasonably* correlate the shortened 3 point line with him 'suddenly' winning championships.
2) The rest of the league, including better 3point shooters than him, didn't have access to the same shortened 3point line and therefore no ability to leverage it to their advantage as MJ supposedly did. Why wasn't Reggie Miller winning championships in 95, 96 or 97? Certainly a shorter 3point line would have made it 'easier' for someone who was really a great 3point shooter?
3) He didn't win the championship in 98 once the line had moved BACK to his original length, showing the shortened line wasn't a necessity for his 96 and 97 championships, just as they weren't for his 91, 92, and 93 titles.
So in closing, 4 of MJs 6 championships were won at the longer distance. One can reasonably opinionate that the other 2 would have been won at the longer distance as well.
[QUOTE=bigkingsfan][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k[/url]
As you can see, John Rogers exposes MJ lack of range.[/QUOTE]
In before OP points out the two 3's MJ drained in that video.
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon]I don't even understand what the argument is here. Op are you saying it's not in fact easier to make shots at a closer range?[/QUOTE]
The argument is simple actually. There is a common belief amongst Jordan haters that mj benefited from the shortened three point line but I proved that that is a false narrative because mj actually shot better from three in the post season when the three point line was regulation.
As far as it being easier to shoot from farther out I'm not really sure. That wasn't my point. In general it's easier the closer you are but It's probably different for everyone depending on where you are on the floor. I know they showed a stat from Damian Lillard's post season this year and he shot a higher percentage from way past the three point line than from mid-range or right as the three point line. I have think Steph is as good from three than he is from mid range also.
[QUOTE=Phoenix]MJ 'benefiting' from the 3point line would only make sense if:
1) He didn't win a single championship, let alone 3 of them, until the line moved in, to which one could *reasonably* correlate the shortened 3 point line with him 'suddenly' winning championships.
2) The rest of the league, including better 3point shooters than him, didn't have access to the same shortened 3point line and therefore no ability to leverage it to their advantage as MJ supposedly did. Why wasn't Reggie Miller winning championships in 95, 96 or 97? Certainly a shorter 3point line would have made it 'easier' for someone who was really a great 3point shooter?
3) He didn't win the championship in 98 once the line had moved BACK to his original length, showing the shortened line wasn't a necessity for his 96 and 97 championships, just as they weren't for his 91, 92, and 93 titles.
So in closing, 4 of MJs 6 championships were won at the longer distance. One can reasonably opinionate that the other 6 would have been won at the longer distance as well.[/QUOTE]
He did benefit a career 33% shooter jumps to 43% his first full season with a WNBA 3 point line lol how is that not benefiting :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Manny98]He did benefit a career 33% shooter jumps to 43% his first full season with a WNBA 3 point line lol how is that not benefiting :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
He shot under 25% in 98 and won the title. It only benefited his 'percentages' in those seasons, it didn't impact whether or not he won the championship you retarded inbreed. It's like you missed the point that 4 out of 6 titles were won at the longer line....or ignored....either way its your ignorance.
[QUOTE=Manny98]He did benefit a career 33% shooter jumps to 43% his first full season with a WNBA 3 point line lol how is that not benefiting :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Ok so he benefited in the regular season then is what your saying because as I've shown it didn't benefit him the post season and thus in winning chips so how exactly did it benefit him?
[QUOTE=Phoenix]He shot under 25% in 98 and won the title. It only benefited his 'percentages' in those seasons, it didn't impact whether or not he won the championship you retarded inbreed. It's like you missed the point that 4 out of 6 titles were won at the longer line....or ignored....either way its your ignorance.[/QUOTE]
Yes it benefited his percentages i rest my case
[QUOTE=Manny98]Yes it benefited his percentages i rest my case[/QUOTE]
I wasn't arguing that, so what case are you resting? I said the shorter line had no bearing on his ability to win championships. Do you have a counter to that, considering 4 of 6 titles were won at the longer line? Take your time and come up with something better than a 5 year old's retort
MJ thread? First post? Manny. 4th? Lambruh
2ezy :applause: :applause:
[QUOTE=Phoenix]I wasn't arguing that, so what case are you resting? I said the shorter line had no bearing on his ability to win championships. Do you have a counter to that, considering 4 of 6 titles were won at the longer line? Take your time and come up with something better than a 5 year old's retort[/QUOTE]
Df are you blabbering about
OP tried making a point that MJ didn't benefit from a shortened line when he clearly did as you even said so yourself as his percentages increased
[QUOTE=Manny98]Df are you blabbering about
OP tried making a point that MJ didn't benefit from a shortened line when he clearly did as you even said so yourself as his percentages increased[/QUOTE]
And I'm making the point that who gives a fukk what he shot from 3 as if it kept him from winning championships. There's a lot of better 3point shooters who won jackshit, so the entire 'MJ wasn't a 3 point shooter' is dumb anyways. What would being a better 3point shooter have done? Gotten him 7 titles instead of 6? You want him to be even more 'GOATER' so you have more reason to go off yourself in mommys basement? It's a pointless argument in the context of his career.
[QUOTE=Manny98]Yes it benefited his percentages i rest my case[/QUOTE]
You mean it benefited his regular season percentages right? Because as I've shown it didn't benefit him in the post season what so ever.