Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
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Wade averaged 15.9 ppg on 45.7% in the 2013 playoffs
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Wade half-assed it through the weak East and then turned it up for the Finals (20/4/5 on 48% with 2 steals in the Finals)
So again:
1) when did Wade average 15 on 34% like pippen in the 96' Finals?..
2) when did bosh or love average 4/8 for the entire playoffs like 97' Rodman?
3) when did wade average 15 on 41% AND bosh get 4/8 (like pip & rodman in 98' Finals)
4) when did Wade average 17.6 on 40.8% like pip for the entire 96-98' PO?
Furthermore, Lebron had a 3rd star in case Wade wasn't playing well - unfortunately, Lebron couldn't activate Bosh because he's been reduced to spot-up shooter.. so it's all on lebron
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
This is true. How did Lebron go 2/4, including a terrible choke in the 2011 Finals with a player much superior to Kobe? This doesn't add up.
[QUOTE=RRR3]Wage averaged 15.9 ppg on 45.7% in the 2013 playoffs[/QUOTE]
Hold up, Wade's supposedly so much better than Kobe. Did Lebron turn Wade into a role player or is Wade really not better than Kobe?
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=3ball][B]Wade half-assed it through the weak East and then turned it up for the Finals [/B](20/4/5 on 48% with 2 steals in the Finals)
So again:
1) when did Wade average 15 on 34% like pippen in the 96' Finals?..
2) when did bosh or love average 4/8 for the entire playoffs like 97' Rodman?
3) when did wade average 15 on 41% AND bosh get 4/8 (like pip & rodman in 98' Finals)
4) when did Wade average 17.6 on 40.8% like pip for the entire 96-98' PO?
Furthermore, Lebron had a 3rd star in case Wade wasn't playing well - unfortunately, Lebron couldn't activate Bosh because he's been reduced to spot-up shooter.. so it's all on lebron[/QUOTE]
Just the opposite for 96, 97 and 98 Pippen.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
It's crazy people think Bran is better than Kobe when Bran ran to a man that arguably had a better peak than Kobe.
So Kobe won with a Bosh type player WITHOUT a player that arguably peaked higher than him.
Too easy.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Just the opposite for 96, 97 and 98 Pippen.[/QUOTE]
Pippen averaged 17.6 on 40.8% for the entire 96-98' playoffs
So Jordan 3-peated with 14' Wade..
13' Wade was better than those numbers... :confusedshrug:.... (20/5/5 on 48% in Finals)
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=3ball]Pippen averaged 17.6 on 40.8% for the entire 96-98' playoffs[/QUOTE]
That's better than Wade's 2013 and 2014
[QUOTE]So Jordan 3-peated with 14' Wade.. [/QUOTE]
Wade didn't sniff All defensive teams like Pippen in 96-98
[QUOTE]13' Wade was better than those numbers... :confusedshrug:.... (20/5/5 on 48% in Finals)[/QUOTE]
Postseason Pippen 96-98 >>>>>>>>> Postseason Wade 13 and 14 and it's not even close.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=ImKobe]This is true. How did Lebron go 2/4, including a terrible choke in the 2011 Finals with a player much superior to Kobe? This doesn't add up.
Hold up, Wade's supposedly so much better than Kobe. Did Lebron turn Wade into a role player or is Wade really not better than Kobe?[/QUOTE]
He wasn’t better than Kobe in 2013, no.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=3ball]Wade half-assed it through the weak East and then turned it up for the Finals (20/4/5 on 48% with 2 steals in the Finals)
So again:
1) when did Wade average 15 on 34% like pippen in the 96' Finals?..
2) when did bosh or love average 4/8 for the entire playoffs like 97' Rodman?
3) when did wade average 15 on 41% AND bosh get 4/8 (like pip & rodman in 98' Finals)
4) when did Wade average 17.6 on 40.8% like pip for the entire 96-98' PO?
Furthermore, Lebron had a 3rd star in case Wade wasn't playing well - unfortunately, Lebron couldn't activate Bosh because he's been reduced to spot-up shooter.. so it's all on lebron[/QUOTE]
•Wade averaged 18.8 PPG on 40.5% against the Bulls in the 2011 playoffs.
•Wade averaged 15.2 PPG on 43.8% against the Spurs in the 2014 finals. He was dealing with injuries to be fair, as was Pippen for some of the series you posted.
Everyone has bad series. Even legends.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=ImKobe]2013? Wade was only 31? How is a 31 y.o Wade not better than 17th season Kobe? Something doesn't add up here.[/QUOTE]
Because Kobe had better longevity. Duh.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
Imagine Pippen as a teammate!?
Could he carry a 1-9 career loser?
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]That's better than Wade's 2013 and 2014
Wade didn't sniff All defensive teams like Pippen in 96-98
Postseason Pippen 96-98 >>>>>>>>> Postseason Wade 13 and 14 and it's not even close.[/QUOTE]
We can only look at Wade's Finals numbers because the East didn't require an all-out effort like MJ's East did - heck, Lebron won the 2014 ECF by averaging only 22 ppg!!!!
So when we look at the Finals stats, Wade was better than Pippen in 2013, and Wade's 14' Finals equals Pippen's 96' or 98'
But the real kicker is that Lebron has another Pau Gasol-level star at 3rd option!!!... :eek: ...
So even if Wade is off, Lebron can activate Bosh - the problem is that bosh [U]can't[/U] be activated because he's been reduced to spot-up shooter in lebron-ball.. so it's all on lebron
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=RRR3]Because Kobe had better longevity. Duh.[/QUOTE]
So wade at age 31 was already worse than a 34 y.o Kobe on his last legs? How does that happen?
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?
[QUOTE=ImKobe]So wade at age 31 was already worse than a 34 y.o Kobe on his last legs? How does that happen?[/QUOTE]
Because Wade's game is physically taxing. Dude was a slasher with no fear going to the cup.
Athleticism, speed and strong cuts.
He also played consistent defense. Unlike Kobe.
Re: How could the "goat" team up with a player this much better than Kobe.. and lose?