New York Times: These Places Could Run Out of Hospital Beds as Coronavirus Spreads

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14050978]What you mean jelly bean?? Trump continuously takes the credit for keeping the Covid deaths to the levels they are today, and not the 2.2 million count that the doom and gloomers were predicting back in March.


Trump saved millions of people.


[B]And you dare besmirch the man?? Shameful and foolhardy![/B][/QUOTE]
No Carlos, you missed the point of my question entirely. What Cleverness argues is that the media is hyping the virus and its effects and causing mass hysteria. He's claiming that hospitals are nowhere near stretched to max capacity, even when the nightly news have doctors and nurses claiming they are running out of ICU beds and are being overworked with the amount of sick people they are treating. ..why doesn't Trump argue that's not what's actually happening since Cleverness is always putting up charts claiming hospitals are nowhere near to full capacity as the media/hospitals,/mayors/doctors/nurses claim? Simple question, bro.

If this is a media fabricated crisis, why isn't Trump calling it out, that's right up his alley, no?

[QUOTE=TheMan;14050993]No Carlos, you missed the point of my question entirely. What Cleverness argues is that the media is hyping the virus and its effects and causing mass hysteria. He's claiming that hospitals are nowhere near stretched to max capacity, even when the nightly news have doctors and nurses claiming they are running out of ICU beds and are being overworked with the amount of sick people they are treating. ..why doesn't Trump argue that's not what's actually happening since Cleverness is always putting up charts claiming hospitals are nowhere near to full capacity as the media/hospitals,/mayors/doctors/nurses claim? Simple question, bro.

If this is a media fabricated crisis, why isn't Trump calling it out, that's right up his alley, no?[/QUOTE]

How many times does Trump have to say "Fake News" in reference to the media before it finally sets in for you people??

:lol

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14051015]How many times does Trump have to say "Fake News" in reference to the media before it finally sets in for you people??

:lol[/QUOTE]
:facepalm

I recall him and Cuomo fighting about the lack of ventilators in NY but I'm asking a different question...please provide a link showing Trump contesting the media and doctor's claims about running out of ICUs in America's biggest covid19 hotspots, something recent, like from the last 2 weeks...I honestly haven't seen him contest the claims.

This could potentially be a game changer, Cleverness needs to notify the administration, Trump's presidency is on the line! The media claims are fake, Cleverness has graphs, damn it!!!

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14051015]How many times does Trump have to say "Fake News" in reference to the media before it finally sets in for you people??

:lol[/QUOTE]

that phrase doesn't hold any weight with trump because he just throws it out there whenever he hears something he doesn't like. that doesn't mean he's not right about it sometimes, but he just uses it as a simple excuse.

[QUOTE=Cleverness;14050938]Hospitalizations update:

Mild scenario: 10 million
Moderate scenario: 21 million
Dire scenario: 31 million

Reality so far: 0.35 million ([URL="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html"]source[/URL])

The scenario we are living in is far less than the Mild one (understatement), but somehow the hysteria is kept at the Dire level.

Also, COVID-19 hospitalizations are being inflated. Here's one reason: [URL="https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/17/hhs-begin-distributing-10-billion-additional-funding-hospitals-high-impact-covid-19-areas.html"]HHS To Begin Distributing $10 Billion in Additional Funding to Hospitals in High Impact COVID-19 Areas[/URL]



It makes a lot more sense why every "suspected probable COVID" hospitalization is being counted. Even sprained ankles are counted as COVID-19 hospitalizations. [url]https://twitter.com/pryto5/status/1262184346703802373[/url][/QUOTE]

@TheMan because Trump is an idiot who has let the scientists at the Dept of Hysteria run things this entire time. FYI I'm not a Trump supporter; I just call out the hypocrisy when I see it. Attack him for shit he actually ****s up on (ie not doing jack shit besides tweet/speeches while the cities were burning during the riots).

The only he did on his own seems to be the travel bans, which would have made sense if CDC/FDA didn't take 2 months to get testing underway. By late March it was too late to eradicate, so we went with half-ass lockdowns to flatten the curve. Those lockdowns turned into "let's try to prevent all death" with zero achievable goals/objectives, no cost/benefit analysis, yet have caused massive destruction to the lives of hundreds of millions as well as future generations. As for hospitals, I've addressed that too many times to count in the official thread, pretty much debunking the myth that they're overwhelmed from COVID.

:facepalm

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[url]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html[/url]

[url]https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018/archive.htm#ref1[/url]

[QUOTE=Cleverness;14026034][SIZE=4][URL="nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/17/upshot/hospital-bed-shortages-coronavirus.html"]These Places Could Run Out of Hospital Beds as Coronavirus Spreads[/URL]
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[B]If coronavirus spreads quickly, many hospitals could become overwhelmed.[/B]
Published March 17, 2020

[U]Predictions for number of US adults hospitalized[/U]

[B]Mild scenario: 10 million.[/B] Moderate scenario: 21 million. Dire scenario: 31 million


Actual number thus far: [B][SIZE=4]0.29 million[/SIZE][/B] ([URL="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html"]CDC[/URL])

They were off by a factor of 100, but by all means, let the same level of hysteria continue.[/QUOTE]

Update

The cumulative number of hospitalizations with COVID-19 is now [B][URL="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html"]0.7 million[/URL][/B] over 37 weeks.

Will we reach the Mild scenario?

Note: 2017-2018 flu hospitalized [URL="https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018/archive.htm#ref1"]810,000[/URL] over ~16 weeks.