Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
[QUOTE=Rico2016;14031508]Well...lol No
LeBron is already ahead of MJ so if Giannis is ahead of LBJ he is obviously ahead of MJ.
Top 3 CEMENTED
LBJ, KAJ, Russell
Next two
Shaq, MJ
That is top 5. Giannis could push Shaq or MJ out, possibly. Cracking into the top 3 though? Not a chance.[/QUOTE]
You put shaq over MJ man. Cmon....
KAJ is a monster, but people forgot what Magic did during those years man. Look at magics stats when he was carrying. The man dropped 40 and a triple double as a rookie. I'm sorry, Magic over Kareem.
MY top 3: MJ, Lebron, Magic.
Bill Russell played during a time when there was like 3 other 7ft black men, That shit aint fair lol.
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
[QUOTE]KAJ is a monster, but people forgot what Magic did during those years man.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but in a way that is favorable to him. People conflate late 80's Magic with early 80's Magic. Yeah, he averaged 9 APG but Nixon averaged 8 APG from 1980-1983 during the same time frame on the same teams.
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
Giannis got exposed at the last World Championship. Nobody who has been shown to be that one dimensional can be top 5 all time.
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
his talent in a vacuum is nowhere near top 5 GOAT let alone even top 25 GOAT.
the guy just dribble charges in to the paint every possession for a layup or dunk. And if the defense sags 15 feet off takes a baby deer jumper.
He would be dikembe mutumbo in past eras which is still nice, but he's gotten a huge boost from today's era of spacing, monopolizing, and palming.
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
[QUOTE=tpols;14031560]He would be dikembe mutumbo in past eras [/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock;14031586]:facepalm[/QUOTE]
tpols can't be taken seriously either :lol Big time racist and Kobe lover at the same time, WITH a cartoon character avatar. Weird fellow
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
It's gonna come down to rings, durability, and longevity. In general, he could be the best PF ever peak-prime wise at some point. I like to see guys be on a superstar level for at least 5 years to give them that mantle for sure. He's just about at that point. He's like an evolution to what KG brought to the table. A positionless 7 foot phenom who is a freak athlete, great passer, great rebounder, and great rebounder in one package. Scoring wise, KG was in that very good to great type of area. Giannis is a more dominant scorer than KG was. Even though KG's scoring skillset was more skilled.
But IF he wins rings, who knows how high he could climb up the charts. He needs to concentrate FIRST on being the GOAT PF. He's gonna need at least 3 rings to pass Duncan by on the GOAT PF charts. I don't think he'll need five IF his numbers continue to be this dominant. Solo accolades, Peak-prime value, numbers, and redefining a position can make up for NOT having as many rings as Duncan. If he wins NO RINGS, then no chances he's a top 5 GOAT.
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
Tpols really is one of the worst posters here among those who attempt to give off a “serious fan” vibe and act like they really care about the intricacies of the sport. Even if Mutombo were half the athlete Giannis is to make it a better comparison....his obvious hating comparison is to a hall of famer? Which when you consider he thinks Giannis is bad at basketball is pretty hilarious.
Has virtually no appreciation for any aspect of basketball but handles and shooting which is why he reps the likes of Hot Sauce as a basketball genius....ignoring that he’s never seen Hot sauce make a legal drive in his life....
One of those trolls who compartmentalizes argument to one topic with no thought given to how that line of thinking plays out overall.
But when dealing with someone who wants the rich to pay way more in taxes and for the government to seize portions of companies for being too successful.....while also being pro Trump?
Hes probably just an all around troll to be ignored by people looking for honest discussion.
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
He does not.
Was exposed in international play.
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14031609]Tpols really is one of the worst posters here among those who attempt to give off a “serious fan” vibe and act like they really care about the intricacies of the sport. Even if Mutombo were half the athlete Giannis is to make it a better comparison....his obvious hating comparison is to a hall of famer? Which when you consider he thinks Giannis is bad at basketball is pretty hilarious.
Has virtually no appreciation for any aspect of basketball but handles and shooting which is why he reps the likes of Hot Sauce as a basketball genius....ignoring that he’s never seen Hot sauce make a legal drive in his life....
One of those trolls who compartmentalizes argument to one topic with no thought given to how that line of thinking plays out overall.
But when dealing with someone who wants the rich to pay way more in taxes and for the government to seize portions of companies for being too successful.....while also being pro Trump?
Hes probably just an all around troll to be ignored by people looking for honest discussion.[/QUOTE]
For an all around troll to be ignored a lot of my arguments seem to stick in your head.
And very specifically so. :lol
it's like you have a diary on me big dog.
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14031609]Tpols really is one of the worst posters here among those who attempt to give off a “serious fan” vibe and act like they really care about the intricacies of the sport. Even if Mutombo were half the athlete Giannis is to make it a better comparison....his obvious hating comparison is to a hall of famer? Which when you consider he thinks Giannis is bad at basketball is pretty hilarious.
Has virtually no appreciation for any aspect of basketball but handles and shooting which is why he reps the likes of Hot Sauce as a basketball genius....ignoring that he’s never seen Hot sauce make a legal drive in his life....
One of those trolls who compartmentalizes argument to one topic with no thought given to how that line of thinking plays out overall.
But when dealing with someone who wants the rich to pay way more in taxes and for the government to seize portions of companies for being too successful.....while also being pro Trump?
Hes probably just an all around troll to be ignored by people looking for honest discussion.[/QUOTE]
Kblaze just dropped a steaming pile of shit on dudes forehead
Yowzers
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
[QUOTE=tpols;14031631]For an all around troll to be ignored a lot of my arguments seem to stick in your head.
And very specifically so. :lol
it's like you have a diary on me big dog.[/QUOTE]
You and welfarefan are actually a scary tandem :lol
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
[QUOTE=Axe;14031686]You and welfarefan are actually a scary tandem :lol[/QUOTE]
i've sonned the fella so many times, my arguments are ingrained deep in his mind.
i think it all stems back to the westbrook grudge where he got shitted on.
Bringing up hot sauce lmao... i have like 2 posts on him and he remembers them.
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Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
[QUOTE=tpols;14031631]For an all around troll to be ignored a lot of my arguments seem to stick in your head.
And very specifically so. :lol
it's like you have a diary on me big dog.[/QUOTE]
After all these years reasonable people actually blend together. Only the worst things I read stand out. Especially when it’s someone like you so prone to repeat takes for months at a time at every mention of a player. You’re a shit take factory turning out opinions of noteworthy idiocy at pretty epic rate. Me noticing you just means you’re a clown dancing on the side of the road and most of ish is just walking by like rational adults.
Of course you remember seeing a clown.
The clown is acting foolish for the express purpose of being seen. That’s what internet trolls are.
Re: Giannis has the potential to be a top 5 player of all-time.
I dont need to act foolish to be seen.
If that was the case, you'd ignore me, like the rest.