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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
[QUOTE=SATAN;14368860]Why are people shitting on Rudy so much? What did he do to you all?
Who cares if he has a big contract. He'd be an idiot to turn it down.[/QUOTE]
It's since that Chinese Jazz fan was shitting on Mitchell and being a d1ckhead about Rudy.
Kinda like how that Kawhi guy makes every single post about Kawhi, even if its got nothing to do with Kawhi...whilst he also knows nothing about the rules or history of the game and league.
And then the Bron stans...obviously.
Stans make the general posters turn on their obsessions...mainly for their sheer disrespect to other players, and delusion that comes with their stanning
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
when Ayton is carrying a crappy team let me know.
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
[QUOTE=wagexslave;14368861]Yet if he's the higher impact player then why are the Clippers players and fans admitting that Ayton is already a much bigger issue than Rudy was. Even if you give Rudy the edge on defense(which is honestly situational as I already said, since Ayton excels in a lot of situations Rudy struggles in). Not to mention the fact that Ayton is only 22.
Also the fact that he's playing his best ball in the playoffs when it matters most is a GOOD thing, and even more impressive when you consider it's only his first playoff appearance ever. What contender would ever chose a big who's great in reg season but average in the playoffs over a player who's average in the regular season but great in the playoffs?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it’s really not situational. Gobert was a vastly superior defensive player throughout the season. It wasn’t even close. The impact defensively was day and night. Ayton was average at best for a center. A few games in the playoffs doesn’t make it “situational” or put Ayton overall anywhere near Gobert. That’s idiotic.
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
lockdown AD? in the game where ad wasn't injured he put 34 points each on 50% shooting. Jokic was 25/13/6. He isn't locking down anyone. Ayton is more Deandre Jordan than he is rudy, ad or jokes
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
[QUOTE=Rudeboy3;14368878]lockdown AD? in the game where ad wasn't injured he put 34 points each on 50% shooting. Jokic was 25/13/6. He isn't locking down anyone. Ayton is more Deandre Jordan than he is rudy, ad or jokes[/QUOTE]
lol Nice try. Obviously you didn't watch the games, but you should AT LEAST check the defensive matchup stats before you type something stupid as f*ck.
AD's total combined round 1 stats when Ayton was guarding him: 33 points on 11/29 shooting (37.9% FG), 2/5 from 3pt (40%), 4 assists
Joker's total combined round 2 stats when Ayton was guarding him: 53 points on 24/59 shooting(40.7% FG), 2/12 from 3pt (16.7%), 14 assists
Oh btw on the offensive end, when AD was guarding Ayton he shot 100% FG. When Jokic was guarding Ayton he shot 64% FG. They literally couldn't do shit to stop him, he was straight up sh*tting in their Cheerios and making them eat it.
Only reason AD even had those 2 good games was because he was flopping like crazy flailing his arms yelling "AHHHH" any time someone breathed on him and the refs were giving him phantom whistles granting him trips to the line at an insane rate, it was a joke and painful to watch. Dude shot over 20 FTs in game 2 alone. But you'd know that if you actually watched it.
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
People love to praise Gobert on D but give me a big guy like Ayton or Embiid that can move and switch any day come playoff time.
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
Exactly what defensive matchups? AD Jokic still ate him up, gave up 20 fts? You’re a ****ing bum. Giannis even ****ed him the regular season
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
[QUOTE=Rudeboy3;14368908]Exactly what defensive matchups? AD Jokic still ate him up, gave up 20 fts? You’re a ****ing bum. Giannis even ****ed him the regular season[/QUOTE]Ayton was definitely a problem for them. Even Jokic says Ayton’s a problem. You are definitely one of them boxscore watching clowns that thinks the boxscores tell the whole story. Dude just posted the defensive stats on you casuals and you’re still trying to argue and plead your case. :roll:
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
[QUOTE=JohnMax;14368893]People love to praise Gobert on D but give me a big guy like Ayton or Embiid that can move and switch any day come playoff time.[/QUOTE]
Big guys can that can have big impact on both ends
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
[QUOTE=Rudeboy3;14368908]Exactly what defensive matchups? AD Jokic still ate him up, gave up 20 fts? You’re a ****ing bum. Giannis even ****ed him the regular season[/QUOTE]
LOL Continuing to prove my point, which is that you don't have a single f*cking clue about what you're talking about. Giannis literally shot 10 of 24 when guarded by Ayton this season 41.7% FG, 0 of 4 from 3PT
Some other noteworthy matchups guarded by Ayton in the reg season:
Jokic went 13 of 34
Embiid 11 of 23
Jamal Murray 8 of 24
Luka doncic 5 of 14
Sabonis 9 of 20
Christian Wood 11 of 25
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
Ayton has impressive touch on his jumper and hook shot. Also good court awareness where to be. He doesn't play soft either flopping so he's a respectable all star level offensive center and pretty good on defense too which I didn't expect. He saved the suns all night yesterday.
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
This is going to be a test for Gobert. He needs to be taking down notes and imprinting it in his mind who is never ever going to win against him again.
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
[QUOTE=Rudeboy3;14368908]Exactly what defensive matchups? AD Jokic still ate him up, gave up 20 fts? You’re a ****ing bum. Giannis even ****ed him the regular season[/QUOTE]
Box score watcher confirmed
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Re: PG13: Ayton is more agile, more of a presence down low and better finisher than R
[QUOTE=Smoke117;14368854]Rudy is clearly the higher impact player at this point. A small sample size in the playoffs doesn’t change that. Ayton hasn’t done anything at a consistent level to be put over Gobert. I don’t even care about Gobert. Everything I’ve said in relation to him and Mitchell is to pour gasoline on the flames and troll. Trying to put Ayton over him, though, is absolutely ****ing moronic.[/QUOTE]
Gobert is better than Ayton at one thing and that is rim protection. If Gobert had any offensive moves whatsoever, the Suns and Jazz are playing right now but he doesn't so they couldn't take advantage of the Clippers small ball attack the way Phoenix has been able to with Ayton.