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[QUOTE=tpols;14443942]Odom had a much better jumper than Simmons. He was also much more talented.[/QUOTE]
They're comparable in styles and hype.
[QUOTE=97 bulls;14443978]They're comparable in styles and hype.[/QUOTE]
Eh... I wouldn't really say that. Simmons was a #1 prospect who is scared to shoot. Odom was never scared of anything. He was a much smoother player. Simmons is awkward.
[QUOTE=tpols;14444005]Eh... I wouldn't really say that. Simmons was a #1 prospect who is scared to shoot. Odom was never scared of anything. He was a much smoother player. Simmons is awkward.[/QUOTE]
Both are 6'10+ with guard skills who were to be the face of the NBA but underachieved.
[QUOTE=97 bulls;14444007]Both are 6'10+ with guard skills who were to be the face of the NBA but underachieved.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say Odom underachieved based on his background. He really overcame all odds and had a great career. Simmons was a rich kid #1 pick who ended up being a spoiled brat and punk when it mattered most in the playoffs. I get that their physical measurables are similar but nothing else is.
[QUOTE=97 bulls;14443978]They're comparable in styles and hype.[/QUOTE]
Odom was never scared to score. Different mental altogether.
[QUOTE=tpols;14444009]I wouldn't say Odom underachieved based on his background. He really overcame all odds and had a great career. Simmons was a rich kid #1 pick who ended up being a spoiled brat and punk when it mattered most in the playoffs. I get that their physical measurables are similar but nothing else is.[/QUOTE]
Lol yall just like to argue. I'm going off their careers as basketball players. They were both highly touted coming into the league. Even getting comparisons to Magic Johnson.
[QUOTE=MadDog;14444026]Odom was never scared to score. Different mental altogether.[/QUOTE]
Lol. You really wanna do this? OK. Please explain why Odom and Simmons both average the same amount of PPG.
[QUOTE=97 bulls;14444036]Lol. You really wanna do this? OK. Please explain why Odom and Simmons both average the same amount of PPG.[/QUOTE]
You definitely don't want to do that. You're that poster whining over comparing era stats. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=MadDog;14444042]You definitely don't want to do that. You're that poster whining over comparing era stats. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Smart man. But I'm not comparing stats. I said they have the same style. The rebuttal is Ben Simmons doesn't shoot or Odom isn't afraid to shoot like Simmons. Well why are they basically at the same level as far as scoring?
[QUOTE=97 bulls;14444093]Smart man. [B]But I'm not comparing stats.[/B] I said they have the same style. The rebuttal is Ben Simmons doesn't shoot or Odom isn't afraid to shoot like Simmons. Well why are they basically at the same level as far as scoring?[/QUOTE]
Bruh what? You literally just compared their points lol. Ben is afraid to score and will pass up on shots. Odom never had that issue. His problem was an inconsistent approach. He was the Lakers glue guy and depending on what was needed, that is what they asked of him.
Odom's the type of player you had to watch. Didn't always show in the numbers, but lowkey he had high value.
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[QUOTE=MadDog;14444120]Bruh what? You literally just compared their points lol. Ben is afraid to score and will pass up on shots. Odom never had that issue. His problem was an inconsistent approach. He was the Lakers glue guy and depending on what was needed, that is what they asked of him.
Odom's the type of player you had to watch. Didn't always show in the numbers, but lowkey he had high value.[/QUOTE]
I'm saying they basically were the same player. Neither either is or was lived up to the hype.
Here's the issue. When you say one is afraid to shoot but the other wasn't, but the points are virtually the same. WHY IS THAT?
[QUOTE=97 bulls;14444148]I'm saying they basically were the same player. Neither either is or was lived up to the hype.
Here's the issue. When you say one is afraid to shoot but the other wasn't, but the points are virtually the same. WHY IS THAT?[/QUOTE]
You contradicted yourself by comparing their PPG. Odom would score more today, but that's not even the point. If you watch the games, you'll see teams sag off Simmons and hes scared to take ANY jumper. His form is broke and he mentally shys away. Odom didnt do that. Defenders played him tight. If they sagged? He would definitely pull up.
It also brings up another discussion. Sagging defenders increase defensive pressure on teammates. Paint gets clogged.
Odom >>> Bosh and Love.