Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
You're lying through your teeth that flu shots were mandatory everywhere.
They have been completely voluntary across the entire corporate level, and of course any blue collar or low wage job. Only a % of healthcare workers have been mandated and maybe a few other outlier places. And military since they travel abroad. I have teachers and nurses in my family circle and it was never mandatory.
And to take it further, in many cities they want proof of your medical status to go out to a store or absolutely anywhere. Im sure your bitch ass will tell us its always been like that too. :oldlol:
Its crazy how you can lie so brazenly and act like this exercise isn't brand new.
Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
I have a bunch of teachers in my family and I just asked them... They said flu shots were NEVER mandatory.
They would bring in a tent with a CVS rep, and it was voluntary to get it on your lunch break. Same thing in every office job I've ever seen.
You're a straight out liar dude.
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[QUOTE=hiphopanonymous;14480831]You seem to have missed the part where there is no mandatory Covid 19 vaccine that has even made the list (and assuming it would, would allow these same exemptions)[/QUOTE]
You seem to have missed the part where all the links you posted only apply to child care and kids under 12.
There is however Covid19 vaccine mandates in the real world for a lot of jobs now with no religious or personal exemptions. Your comparison doesn't make much sense. When you can tell me the last time you had to show proof of Small pox or Flu shot vaccination to enter a restaurant, gym or any other public event then you will have a fair point.
Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
[QUOTE=tpols;14480836]You're lying through your teeth that flu shots were mandatory everywhere.
They have been completely voluntary across the entire corporate level, and of course any blue collar or low wage job. Only a % of healthcare workers have been mandated and maybe a few other outlier places. I have teachers and nurses in my family circle and it was never mandatory.
And to take it further, in many cities they want proof of your medical status to go out to a store or absolutely anywhere. In sure your bitch ads will tell us its always been like that too. :oldlol:
Its crazy how you can lie so brazenly and act like this exercise isn't brand new.[/QUOTE]
lol am I? And are you twisting my words a bit? Just by being contracted with the largest employer in my area - to enter their doors I needed to get a flu shot. Teachers [I]in my state[/I] need flu shots. Many medical professions need a flu shot and some private jobs just do it to fit into an insurance niche. You are working yourself into a tizzy just trying to deny the way the world already works.
And the funniest part is the Covid vaccine in my area appears to be treated the same as a flu vaccine. You can get it if you want, or not, in aforementioned 'most' private sectors. But the ones that tend to say you have to get a flu shot just add in the Covid vaccine. That's been my experience being contracted and badged into a variety of local businesses (it's the corporations that do this btw, nothing small) - if they mention one they mention the other. If they don't - It doesn't get brought up. I'm only speaking off my experiences don't @ me with denial :oldlol:
Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21;14480843]You seem to have missed the part where all the links you posted only apply to child care and kids under 12.
There is however Covid19 vaccine mandates in the real world for a lot of jobs now with no religious or personal exemptions. Your comparison doesn't make much sense. When you can tell me the last time you had to show proof of Small pox or Flu shot vaccination to enter a restaurant, gym or any other public event then you will have a fair point.[/QUOTE]
Yes that's how your government appears to approach creating a generation of vaccinated people. And currently Covid isn't even on that list.
Reading between the lines though if you follow the pattern they may never make any vaccine mandatory for adults. Maybe, one day, something like a Covid vaccine that gets approved for kids could just quietly get added to the public school mandatory list. In which case - WW3?
*TRIGGERED*
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This is an article from 2009 on flu shots and teachers.
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[B]The American Federation of Teachers unanimously passed a resolution Wednesday strongly opposing mandatory seasonal and H1N1 influenza immunization, and instead, encouraging its members to weigh the risks and benefits of flu vaccinations and make their own informed decisions. [/B]It also encouraged employers to develop comprehensive pandemic flu plans.
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[URL="https://www.aft.org/press-release/american-federation-teachers-strongly-opposes-mandatory-flu-vaccinations"]https://www.aft.org/press-release/american-federation-teachers-strongly-opposes-mandatory-flu-vaccinations[/URL]
This is what happens when the media brainwashes people. The truth gets completely distorted and lost.
Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
[QUOTE=hiphopanonymous;14480845]Yes that's how your government appears to approach creating a generation of vaccinated people. And currently Covid isn't even on that list.
Reading between the lines though if you follow the pattern they may never make any vaccine mandatory for adults. Maybe, one day, something like a Covid vaccine that gets approved for kids could just quietly get added to the public school mandatory list. In which case - WW3?
*TRIGGERED*[/QUOTE]
Cool story bruh. So when was the last time you got asked for your flu shot proof to attend any restaurants, gyms or live events? According to you this is nothing new right?
Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
[QUOTE=jstern;14480503]Maybe I'm missing something very obvious. I just don't understand the black and white nature of many of the pro Covid vaccine people. Where if you don't want this vaccine, then that means that you're against others.
There's a significant difference between Polio and the China thing. The China one rarely kills kids, or young people unless they have an average of 3 comorbidities, most of the deaths come from people 85 years or older (who make up 2% of the population), the other one can paralyze and deform kids and adults of all ages. And that's not even the start of it.
The Polio vaccine took decades to develop. So now we want to make mandatory experimental mRNA shots, where any talk of any side effect is completely censored, where Maddey de Garay side effects were listed as a stomach ache, and where so many people with myocarditisbeing told that it's just anxiety.
I mean if a person thinks a vaccine is a vaccine, that they're all the same. That if one is safe then ALL are safe, even brand new ones. That if you're against one then you're against all. Then what can you do?[/QUOTE]
Yep. I know people that are pro vaccines except for the covid vaccine. Makes sense.. not everyone that is against the covid vaccine is anti-vax.
Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
Has anyone in here been mandated without option of testing?
Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
[QUOTE=hiphopanonymous;14480844]lol am I? And are you twisting my words a bit? Just by being contracted with the largest employer in my area - to enter their doors I needed to get a flu shot. Teachers [I]in my state[/I] need flu shots. Many medical professions need a flu shot and some private jobs just do it to fit into an insurance niche. You are working yourself into a tizzy just trying to deny the way the world already works.
And the funniest part is the Covid vaccine in my area appears to be treated the same as a flu vaccine. You can get it if you want, or not, in aforementioned 'most' private sectors. But the ones that tend to say you have to get a flu shot just add in the Covid vaccine. That's been my experience being contracted and badged into a variety of local businesses (it's the corporations that do this btw, nothing small) - if they mention one they mention the other. If they don't - It doesn't get brought up. I'm only speaking off my experiences don't @ me with denial :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
He has been getting so worked up about covid/vaccines for over a year now. I remember when he was getting so nutty over bill gates and population control/tracking chips last year. I would not mind him too much. Don't waste too much of your time.
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[QUOTE=Off the Court;14480892]Has anyone in here been mandated without option of testing?[/QUOTE]
Nope. Nobody has ever asked me for my covid card either. Same with my family and friends. Nobody has been asked to provide the card to enter the store or restaurant or place. I carry my card in my wallet but have not removed it to show anyone since I put it in my wallet in April after getting my 2nd shot. People don't care as much as tpols and all these clowns complain nonstop about. My dad occasionally forgot his mask, and nobody asked him to mask up.
Well, my aunt/uncle were asked for their covid cards when they went for their boosters. Another uncle was asked for it before getting a colonoscopy and going under anesthesia. That was it.
Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
[QUOTE=hiphopanonymous;14480834]You have to have the annual flu shot to even be a teacher in many states, and you have to have the annual flu shot to work most any medical field anywhere and some jobs just outright require it for falling into certain insurance brackets. Jobs that are at this stage asking for or leaning towards privately decided mandatory Covid vaccines are are the same kinds of jobs that are likely to require a flu shot and it usually is for liability or insurance reasons. Even if some aren't, there are places that require a flu shot that don't require the Covid shot.
These vaccines laws are changing absolutely nothing about how are society was ALREADY structured. We've had mandatory vaccines at a government level and they aren't new. Covid isn't even one of them and if one ever does become one... [B]so!?[/B] We've had private businesses wanting people to have annual vaccines, [B]it's nothing new[/B]. Add Covid to the mix... [B]so!?[/B] And we have avenues for government exemptions for all current mandatory vaccines and this would also apply to any hypothetical covid governed vaccine (which again doesn't even exist!) - [B]it's nothing new[/B].
You guys act so fearful turn off your media outlets for a bit and relax, smell the fresh air life as you know it is not being threatened :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
This is nothing new everyone! So what?!?
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Re: Vaccines MANDATORY in ALL STATES!
[QUOTE=theman93;14481012]This is nothing new everyone! So what?!?
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[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/10/15/fact-check-post-misleads-whos-vigiaccess-tool/6101202001/[/url]
[QUOTE]Reports submitted through VigiBase are monitored by the Swedish organization [URL="https://www.who-umc.org/global-pharmacovigilance/who-programme-for-international-drug-monitoring/the-story-of-umc-and-the-who-programme/"]Uppsala Monitoring Centre[/URL], which operates the WHO Progamme for International Drug Monitoring.
When reports of suspected adverse drug reactions are submitted to VigiBase "we only validate that the minimum required information is available," Skold said.
That includes information about a patient, a drug, the suspected reaction or event and a reporter, she said.
"The reports in VigiBase are not vetted by us or WHO upon submission," Skold said. "Some countries may vet their reports themselves before submitting, but with large amounts of data to process, it is probably more common to submit reports after only minimum, likely automated, vetting."
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[QUOTE=BurningHammer;14481054][url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/10/15/fact-check-post-misleads-whos-vigiaccess-tool/6101202001/[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]USA Today issues daily fact checks, but many of their supposed corrections are actually just regurgitated narratives peddled by the mainstream media and often indistinguishable from leftist politicians’ talking points.
The newspaper has a history of propping up slanted, unnecessary, and long-winded explanations attempting to justify certain statements and behaviors to fit their narrative.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/03/usa-todays-fact-checks-are-actually-corrupt-partisan-spin/[/url]
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[QUOTE=theman93;14481062][URL]https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/03/usa-todays-fact-checks-are-actually-corrupt-partisan-spin/[/URL][/QUOTE]
>quoting a far-right media site
[url]https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/[/url]