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[QUOTE=oldtimer28;14484028]I have these trolls on ignore. They are sadly lost causes that show their dogmatic irrationality each time they breathe.
Shame they try to bring down happy, healthy, and thinking people through fear and attempts at insults and intimidation.[/QUOTE]
That idiot kabar was so certain that trump colluded with russia that he started insulting everyone that disagreed with him. I just called him an idiot throughout the entire time.
That thread didnt age very well
[QUOTE=kabar;14483861]Do you have a spreadsheet cataloguing your shitty ISH threads? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Aren't you the guy who supports the official narrative regarding social distancing, masks, travel bans, and overwhelmed hospitals?
[QUOTE=oldtimer28;14484028]I have these trolls on ignore. They are sadly lost causes that show their dogmatic irrationality each time they breathe.
Shame they try to bring down happy, healthy, and thinking people through fear and attempts at insults and intimidation.[/QUOTE]
I don't need to put them on ignore. Just ask kabar a few basic questions regarding his position and he'll disappear.
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14484056]That idiot kabar was so certain that trump colluded with russia that he started insulting everyone that disagreed with him. I just called him an idiot throughout the entire time.
That thread didnt age very well[/QUOTE]
Trump said to social distance, wear masks, ban travel, and get the vaccine. I'm pretty sure kabar agrees with Trump on all 4 accounts ... even believes in the "overwhelmed hospital" narrative.
[QUOTE=JohnnySic;14484054]The Dems must be pissed. They were probably saving this bogus variant for midterms. They were gonna bring back the white supremacy nugget after Kyle's trial (if you paid attention, you may have noticed that covid/vaccine mania was fairly quiet during the trial) but had to can that plan after the Waukesha incident. So its back to fear porn. Guess they'll have to come up with something else later.[/QUOTE]
Question for you. If this was just a bogus variant, why would they come out with it now instead of waiting when it was more beneficial? The economy was beginning to get back to better than the last 15 months, and suddenly new restrictions. You mention the Waukesha incident. What is your reasoning there, genius? Let's hear what the new Qanon conspiracy is. :lol
This doesn't seem worse than the average covid variant according to early accounts so I do think people should not overreact. I don't like seeing countries close down air travel or panic just a couple of days after the news broke without actually doing their due diligence. Reach out to the epidemiologists first to look into it instead of automatically jumping to lockdowns..
[QUOTE=bladefd;14484158]Question for you. If this was just a bogus variant, why would they come out with it now instead of waiting when it was more beneficial? The economy was beginning to get back to better than the last 15 months, and suddenly new restrictions. You mention the Waukesha incident. What is your reasoning there, genius? Let's hear what the new Qanon conspiracy is. :lol
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I made myself pretty I think.
1.) The Dems were going to push white supremacy again after the Kyle trial (It was pretty clear that Kyle was going to get off.) They actually did for a couple of days post trial, then Waukeshia happened, which killed their mojo considering white people (including a child) were murdered by a pro-BLM'er. That's why its relevant.
2.) They're bring out the variant now because they have no other choice. The Dems thrive on manufactured crises and negative energy. With white supremacy off the table for now, their only other fake crisis option other than covid is climate change and no one who isn't a drooling idiot cares about that. So, covid it is.
3.) None of this is Qanon, just a personal theory. I dont subscribe to Qanon but compared to the drivel that comes from the left, Qanon is actually preferarble.
[QUOTE=JohnnySic;14484167]I made myself pretty I think.
1.) The Dems were going to push white supremacy again after the Kyle trial (It was pretty clear that Kyle was going to get off.) They actually did for a couple of days post trial, then Waukeshia happened, which killed their mojo considering white people (including a child) were murdered by a pro-BLM'er. That's why its relevant.
2.) They're bring out the variant now because they have no other choice. The Dems thrive on manufactured crises and negative energy. With white supremacy off the table for now, their only other fake crisis option other than covid is climate change and no one who isn't a drooling idiot cares about that. So, covid it is.
3.) None of this is Qanon, just a personal theory. I dont subscribe to Qanon but compared to the drivel that comes from the left, Qanon is actually preferarble.[/QUOTE]
Qanon is much more factual than CNN
[QUOTE=JohnnySic;14484167]I made myself pretty I think.
1.) The Dems were going to push white supremacy again after the Kyle trial (It was pretty clear that Kyle was going to get off.) They actually did for a couple of days post trial, then Waukeshia happened, which killed their mojo considering white people (including a child) were murdered by a pro-BLM'er. That's why its relevant.
2.) [B]They're bring out the variant now because they have no other choice. The Dems thrive on manufactured crises and negative energy. With white supremacy off the table for now, their only other fake crisis option other than covid is climate change and no one who isn't a drooling idiot cares about that. So, covid it is.[/b]
3.) None of this is Qanon, just a personal theory. I dont subscribe to Qanon but compared to the drivel that comes from the left, Qanon is actually preferarble.[/QUOTE]
Why though? What do they gain from smashing the stock market and a somewhat recovering economy? There is no election right now in the near few months. This doesn't boost Biden's approval rating if we have to go into more lockdowns & restricted travel. If anything, it could hurt his approval rating. It can make inflation worse. Why would he or democrats want to risk that?
The 4 individuals who tested positive for the Omicron variant all had the safe and effective* vaccines.
[IMG]https://beckernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screenshot-11_26_2021-6_36_26-PM.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=theman93;14484250]The 4 individuals who tested positive for the Omicron variant all had the safe and effective* vaccines.
[IMG]https://beckernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screenshot-11_26_2021-6_36_26-PM.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
the vaccines don't prevent spread or infection. you know this.
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14484177]Qanon is much more factual than CNN[/QUOTE]
you’re a ****ing idiot
[QUOTE=theman93;14484250]The 4 individuals who tested positive for the Omicron variant all had the safe and effective* vaccines.
[IMG]https://beckernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screenshot-11_26_2021-6_36_26-PM.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
so, do you wanna explain why a vaccine would be effective against a NEW strain of the virus?
[QUOTE=outofstomach;14484383]so, do you wanna explain why a vaccine would be effective against a NEW strain of the virus?[/QUOTE]
I'm not the one claiming that. That would be the experts. You should take it up with them.
[QUOTE]Collins also stressed the need for people to get vaccinated and for those who are fully vaccinated to get their booster shots.
"The booster — it basically enlarges the capacity of your immune system to recognize all kinds of different spike proteins it's never seen," Collins said.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/11/28/1059623783/fauci-says-the-omicron-variant-will-inevitably-appear-in-the-u-s[/url]
[QUOTE]Fauci Says Omicron Likely More Contagious So Get Vaccinated[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-28/no-reason-to-panic-over-omicron-but-boosters-aid-says-nih-head[/url]
[QUOTE=theman93;14484395]I'm not the one claiming that. That would be the experts. You should take it up with them.
[url]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/11/28/1059623783/fauci-says-the-omicron-variant-will-inevitably-appear-in-the-u-s[/url]
[url]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-28/no-reason-to-panic-over-omicron-but-boosters-aid-says-nih-head[/url][/QUOTE]
i don't want to get into a one-up back & forth here because i honestly don't like to participate in that, but from your article:
[QUOTE]Collins appeared on CNN's State of the Union said he thinks people who have already been vaccinated "[B]will probably be OK," but that scientists will likely need two or three weeks to determine that[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, said “there’s no reason to panic, but ... a great reason to go get boosted” with the discovery of omicron last week in South Africa. [B]Existing vaccines have worked against mutations and [U]may[/U] again now[/B], he said on “Fox News Sunday.” [/QUOTE]
i think the covid hysteria is overblown as well and fauci & friends are hacks, but let's at least ATTEMPT to be fair here.
It is pretty wild. The vaccines that were literally just given out are no longer effective against new variants. Which are what is present now, only a few months later.
So they don't work short term (< a year) and there's no studies long term (3-5+ years) so how can somebody possibly come to the conclusion they are the fix all solution? It really is absolute illogical insanity. Propaganda really does work.
[QUOTE=tpols;14484593]It is pretty wild. The vaccines that were literally just given out are no longer effective against new variants. Which are what is present now, only a few months later.
So they don't work short term (< a year) and there's no studies long term (3-5+ years) so how can somebody possibly come to the conclusion they are the fix all solution? It really is absolute illogical insanity. Propaganda really does work.[/QUOTE]
ugh.
again, they're not saying for certain that the vaccines do indeed work or don't work again omicron. or am i missing something?
the vaccines (according to 'them') were indeed 'effective' against delta.