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[QUOTE=RRR3;14834012]Injury caused Wade to be bad in the playoffs unless we’re pretending he was good in the 2013 or 2014 playoffs.[/QUOTE]
Wade was pretty good in some series like the 2013 Finals and 2014 ECF. He was still an all-star.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14833963]and Pippen is only considered a superstar because he played with MJ. Nobody on ISH would even know who he was otherwise[/QUOTE]
You are a ****ing retard.
[QUOTE=SATAN;14834033]You are a ****ing retard.[/QUOTE]
Wc back!
[QUOTE=dankok8;14834021]Wade was pretty good in some series like the 2013 Finals and 2014 ECF. He was still an all-star.[/QUOTE]
Wade averaged 15.9/4.6/4.8 on 49.8 TS% in the 2013 playoffs, if that's your standard for All-Star, I assume you think Dion Waiters was a beast.
In 2014, he averaged 17.8/3.9/3.9 on 56.0 TS%, I guess those could be all-star numbers, but it would certainly be considered a weak all-star.
Fact is, LeBron got historically weak help from his second option in those playoffs. No one wants to admit it because Wade is a big name though so obviously he was elite his whole career!
[QUOTE=RRR3;14834037]Wade averaged 15.9/4.6/4.8 on 49.8 TS% in the 2013 playoffs, if that's your standard for All-Star, I assume you think Dion Waiters was a beast.
In 2014, he averaged 17.8/3.9/3.9 on 56.0 TS%, I guess those could be all-star numbers, but it would certainly be considered a weak all-star.
Fact is, LeBron got historically weak help from his second option in those playoffs. No one wants to admit it because Wade is a big name though so obviously he was elite his whole career![/QUOTE]
Yep but as I said he was much better in a few key series. When they needed Wade in the 2013 Finals, he showed up. Same in the 2014 ECF where he came up big. In the early rounds, the Heat weren't going to lose anyways.
[B]2013 Finals: 19.6/4.0/4.6 on 50.5 %TS (-1.1 rTS) with 2.3 topg[/B] (23.5/6.0/4.8 on 52.7 %TS (+1.1 rTS) with 2.8 topg the last four games)
[B]2014 ECF: 19.8/4.3/4.7 on 61.5 %TS (+11.4 rTS) with 2.7 topg [/B]
He admittedly had a rough series in the 2014 Finals but he still showed up big in two important series.
[QUOTE=dankok8;14834126]Yep but as I said he was much better in a few key series. When they needed Wade in the 2013 Finals, he showed up. Same in the 2014 ECF where he came up big. In the early rounds, the Heat weren't going to lose anyways.
2013 Finals: 19.6/4.0/4.6 on 50.5 %TS (-1.1 rTS) with 2.3 topg (23.5 ppg the last four games)
2014 ECF: 19.8/4.3/4.7 on 61.5 %TS (+11.4 rTS) with 2.7 topg
He admittedly had a rough series in the 2014 Finals but he still showed up big in two important series.[/QUOTE]
The Pacers took the Heat to game seven in 2013, and Wade put up 15.4/5.1/4.3 on 49.6 TS%, so extremely disingenuous to act like they weren't challenged in the East. LeBron averaged 29.0/7.3/5.3 with on 60.9 TS% with incredible defense that series, that's why they won. If you're gonna give him credit for the 2014 finals and a very mediocre 2013 finals for a second option, you better admit he was awful in the 2013 ECF.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14834128]The Pacers took the Heat to game seven in 2013, and Wade put up 15.4/5.1/4.3 on 49.6 TS%, so extremely disingenuous to act like they weren't challenged in the East. LeBron averaged 29.0/7.3/5.3 with on 60.9 TS% with incredible defense that series, that's why they won. If you're gonna give him credit for the 2014 finals and a very mediocre 2013 finals for a second option, you better admit he was awful in the 2013 ECF.[/QUOTE]
Sure Wade was pretty bad in the 2013 ECF. I honestly thought he was better because his Game 7 was good.
[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14833942]It's not sympathy, it's just adding a little more context. Lot of Bron haters are like "MJ only had Pippen and Lebron had a bunch of superstars". This is true on some level, but the games in which you played with superstars is clearly important. You don't need to have a lot of different superstar teammates if the ones you already have on your team play with you for a decade lol.
Wade, Kyrie, AD have been injury prone and missed tons of games. When did MJ ever have key teammates miss games in the postseason? Not often. Same goes for most of the other stars I listed.[/QUOTE]
Pippen didn't average over 20 points until he was in his fifth season. The OP is a list of names and numbers with no context.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14834131]Pippen didn't average over 20 points until he was in his fifth season. The OP is a list of names and numbers with no context.[/QUOTE]
This. Obviously just trying to stir something up.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14833928]That's what happens when you go from team to team vs sticking with one team for most of your career. Not feeling much sympathy.[/QUOTE]
You would think this would be common sense but apparently it isn't to most.
I don't think people appreciate how badly MJ would humiliate lebron H2H.
The resident tin foil hat wearing window licking retard up in here talking about common sense. :roll: