Trump kicks Zelensky out of the White House.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14982245]America first, chico. Been 4yrs since we've seen that happening. Done with free handouts[/QUOTE]

It's more of Russia First now. :ohwell:

And in true bully fashion, Trump could not take on Zelensky one on one, he had to bring his butt boy Vance along so it would be two on one.

Anyone notice when Trump met Zelenksy at the door he immediately cracked a joke commenting on how underdressed Zelenksy looked? Height wise Trump towers over him too. It reminded me back of my younger days when I first was working in business... I got similar comments from people who were tenured in the game. It can make you feel really small and underprepared. Later, even a reporter asked him the same question and Trump silently let Zelensky give a sheepish nothing answer. It among countless other interactions were incredibly uncomfortable to watch and basically the entire meeting from start to finish was Trump basically asserting to Zelenksy that you are small and feed out of my hand on command and - I'm disappointed in you. He was basically treated like someone who was going to get fired if it weren't for some sort of other type of connection.

My big take away from this was the conversation was about 100 times more hostile than I expected it to be. But I do see where Trump is coming from, at one point Zelensky tried to call out Vance for political moral grandstanding and that's when the incredible anger and hostile talking-to happened. I say talking-to because Trump and Vance basically dominated Zelensky at that point in front of everyone, not just the media but the entire world. There's a valid point that yeah, you shouldn't be calling out a neutral arbiter of good faith and peace and challenging them when you've got both everything to gain and everything to lose. But damn. The exchange was a brutal sit down, shut up, and cooperate command or we'll pull your support and watch you get obliterated type of tone from that point forward. No minced words.

Having been in tense conversations about much smaller scale, but fairly important things in the past, I can say if I were Zelensky I'd be absolutely furious at how I was treated straight from the get-go. But there is some truth in all of this that if the hand that feeds you wants the fighting to stop you really do have to comply. The rug can be yanked out from under you so now is not the time to puff out your chest and "stand up to" or challenge statements by Trump or Vance like he attempted to do which pissed them off.

I had a lot of confidence a peace agreement would be made. At this point it could go either direction I've no idea. If Zelensky puts his ego and pride above all else, there won't be a deal. If he puts his and his countries survival above all else, he'll come back with a different attitude to negotiate again. Trump did tweet or whatever that the door is open for when Zelensky actually decides he wants peace to come back and talk again.

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brutal. tell em donny. zelensky got a reality check for real today. he's holding an empty hand and he's ruining his country and getting thousands of people killed for nothing.

wish trump would put little bibi in his place like this.

[video=youtube;1S2jxEi7TBs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S2jxEi7TBs[/video]

Trump fixing the war in 24 hours ....

:roll::roll::roll:

"with us, you have some cards. without us, you don't have any cards".

WHEW! that's what i'm talkin bout!

Z is in a bad spot - he should have negotiated with Russia at the beginning of war and not listened to Biden/Boris Johnson. Now 3 years later - what does he have - a destroyed country and hundreds of thousands dead - I guess there's whatever was skimmed off the top from (unaccountable) aid.

I don't get the US will "feel" it comment - we could just withdraw aid and say bye bye - we're not gonna feel anything - Ukraine will be the ones without weapons/aid.

Peepol here so stupid especially Mexicans who have no clue but construction

Anyone ever ask Mexico for opinion? They tariff about go up even after better border they pay for free

Zelensky idiot, he need America so he come to beg
Trump try to stop peepol die so want peace zelensky want win war
Can not win war without peepol diring so he have compromise… but he say no


Peepol say trump dumb, what you want him to do? He already try to get more money idiot Biden just give away. If idiot want to try to war against superpower do without my tax money.

We all ask what we get investing in this war… Biden does not care, glad trump do

I bet democrat here sucky sucky peepee for own DEI policy

So nice to bully when you have the upper hand. Let's see Vance do that to Putin.

[QUOTE=Gudo;14982330]So nice to bully when you have the upper hand. Let's see Vance do that to Putin.[/QUOTE]



Aww look at liberal cry because trump tough in begged wanting billions to kill more peepol

I bet he have shirt say

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[QUOTE=StickyWice;14982333]Aww look at liberal cry because trump tough in begged wanting billions to kill more peepol

I bet he have shirt say

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Dude, I'm not even an American.

Also, Vance talking about diplomacy, then acting immediately on the contrary as soon as Zelensky kept him in check. Lol pure comedy.

[QUOTE=Gudo;14982335]Dude, I'm not even an American.[/QUOTE]


Are you low iq? I never say you American. But I say what you are.. a dumbass.

This is horrible for Zelensky. Europe will have to come to his rescue or else Ukraine risks losing all those people and having a war ravaged country for nothing. If Europe doesn't help him he's probably going to lose more land than he would have if he had negotiated with Putin and avoided war completely. In which case he will go down as one of the worst leaders ever.

Even if he didn't agree with Trump, he should have kept his mouth shut for the good of his people but apparently his ego moves him more than his compassion for Ukraine's women and children