Trouble in paradise? Musk slams Trump's "big beautiful bill"

[QUOTE=diamenz;15011620]it is a shit bill. it's uniparty 101, but it's all on the republicans lets make that much clear. expect nothing less from house republicans and cuckboy mike johnson who's primary goal above all is to grant their donors their tax cuts that they were promised, debt be damned. i don't ever want to hear congressional republicans cry about how dems may end up spending recklessly anytime down the line because they don't give a god damn about the debt, aside from this thomas massie who's apparently the only principled republican that's speaking out against it.

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look at that - cuts to ss programs to pad the pockets of the rich, at a time in history where the wealth disparity is at an all time high, we just saw the largest transfer of wealth during covid and the middle class [I]still[/I] continues to shrink. it costed one trllion $ last year to [B]service[/B] the debt. lol. what a joke our congress is. honestly it doesn't matter anyway - it's far too gone to reverse at this point.



politicians? how about calling this out for what is it - [U][B]republican[/B] politicians[/U]. it's not hard.[/QUOTE]

What? You actually think Democrat politicians would spend less? LOL. Thank God for Manchin nixing that monstrosity Build Back Better.

[QUOTE=rmt;15011636]What? You actually think Democrat politicians would spend less? LOL. Thank God for Manchin nixing that monstrosity Build Back Better.[/QUOTE]

no of course they wouldn't. quite the contrary - dems are known to spend, spend, spend. republicans on the other hand are supposed to be principally fiscally conservative. you can't see this for what it is and call it out accordingly?

I do agree this bill is an abomination. They should be taking a chain saw to that budget.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15011559]I @‘d at TheMan, not this fat ass beaner

Bait and switch[/QUOTE]

All beans think alike

[QUOTE=rmt;15011644]I do agree this bill is an abomination. They should be taking a chain saw to that budget.[/QUOTE]

that's as far as you'll go huh. [B]lol[/B]. don't want go [B]too[/B] far calling out corrupted congressional republicans, right?

this isn't trump's bill [B]yet[/B], so your chance to step on some toes of those that deserve it is now. are you principled or are you too caught up in the bullshit? better maintain some space for yourself just in case this ends up passing the senate as-is, right?

any other magas wanna call this bill out? here's your chance to lend yourselves some credibility. this one is a 'gimme'. it should be so easy. can you do it? or are you just too caught up in 'sidisms' to grow a pair?

"oh but dems"!!!

sounds like the same old bullshit you like you call them out on their hypocrisies (valid too, btw) but when it comes to stepping up the plate you're as quiet as a *ucking church mouse.

"everyone turns conservative when they get older"! it's too bad y'all don't act like it.

lol unbelievable.

op i'm looking in your direction especially. for all the shit you talk about the democrats (yep, rightfully so too), you wanna call out some house republicans? you should be at em like a rottweiler here.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15011639]no of course they wouldn't. quite the contrary - dems are known to spend, spend, spend. republicans on the other hand are supposed to be principally fiscally conservative. you can't see this for what it is and call it out accordingly?[/QUOTE]

The worst spenders are Republicans. Reagan and W are the worst offenders in modern times. Both parties spend, but Dems spend less on average.

Looking at this Bill and saying "but Democrats......" is textbook whataboutism though.

Republicans are in office.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15011660]that's as far as you'll go huh. [B]lol[/B]. don't want go [B]too[/B] far calling out corrupted congressional republicans, right?

this isn't trump's bill [B]yet[/B], so your chance to step on some toes of those that deserve it is now. are you principled or are you too caught up in the bullshit? better maintain some space for yourself just in case this ends up passing the senate as-is, right?

any other magas wanna call this bill out? here's your chance to lend yourselves some credibility. this one is a 'gimme'. it should be so easy. can you do it? or are you just too caught up in 'sidisms' to grow a pair?

"oh but dems"!!!

sounds like the same old bullshit you like you call them out on their hypocrisies (valid too, btw) but when it comes to stepping up the plate you're as quiet as a *ucking church mouse.

"everyone turns conservative when they get older"! it's too bad y'all don't act like it.

lol unbelievable.

op i'm looking in your direction especially. for all the shit you talk about the democrats (yep, rightfully so too), you wanna call out some house republicans? you should be at em like a rottweiler here.[/QUOTE]

Please calm down - they are all corrupt, but it's a binary choice between Dems and Repubs (the lesser evil). I've already expressed my opinion at length in the Stock Market thread - zero based budgeting. But REALISTICALLY, politicians are going to get for themselves and their constituents - regardless of Musk, DOGE, Rand Paul, etc. - they are going to keep spending and decrease the value/reserve currency of the US dollar.

I save my principles for my personal/family life - why get stressed over something I personally cannot change? Better to invest in some bitcoin and gold for the future. And enjoy one of my favorite time of the year - NBA playoffs and French Open/Wimbledon. Good diet, exercise/resistance training, deep sleep, family/friends and LESS STRESS - the recipe for seniors (me) and really any age.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15011660]that's as far as you'll go huh. [B]lol[/B]. don't want go [B]too[/B] far calling out corrupted congressional republicans, right?

this isn't trump's bill [B]yet[/B], so your chance to step on some toes of those that deserve it is now. are you principled or are you too caught up in the bullshit? better maintain some space for yourself just in case this ends up passing the senate as-is, right?

any other magas wanna call this bill out? here's your chance to lend yourselves some credibility. this one is a 'gimme'. it should be so easy. can you do it? or are you just too caught up in 'sidisms' to grow a pair?

"oh but dems"!!!

sounds like the same old bullshit you like you call them out on their hypocrisies (valid too, btw) but when it comes to stepping up the plate you're as quiet as a *ucking church mouse.

"everyone turns conservative when they get older"! it's too bad y'all don't act like it.

lol unbelievable.

op i'm looking in your direction especially. for all the shit you talk about the democrats (yep, rightfully so too), you wanna call out some house republicans? you should be at em like a rottweiler here.[/QUOTE]

Please calm down - they are all corrupt, but it's a binary choice between Dems and Repubs (the lesser evil). I've already expressed my opinion at length in the Stock Market thread - zero based budgeting. But REALISTICALLY, politicians are going to get for themselves and their constituents - regardless of Musk, DOGE, Rand Paul, etc. - they are going to keep spending and decrease the value/reserve currency of the US dollar.

I save my principles for my personal/family life - why get stressed over something I personally cannot change? Better to invest in some bitcoin and gold for the future. And enjoy one of my favorite time of the year - NBA playoffs and French Open/Wimbledon. Good diet, exercise/resistance training, deep sleep, family/friends and LESS STRESS - the recipe for seniors (me) and really any age.

Sorry for the double post.

[QUOTE=rmt;15011698]Please calm down - they are all corrupt, but it's a binary choice between Dems and Repubs (the lesser evil). I've already expressed my opinion at length in the Stock Market thread - zero based budgeting. But REALISTICALLY, politicians are going to get for themselves and their constituents - regardless of Musk, DOGE, Rand Paul, etc. - they are going to keep spending and decrease the value/reserve currency of the US dollar.

I save my principles for my personal/family life - why get stressed over something I personally cannot change? Better to invest in some bitcoin and gold for the future. And enjoy one of my favorite time of the year - NBA playoffs and French Open/Wimbledon. Good diet, exercise/resistance training, deep sleep, family/friends and LESS STRESS - the recipe for seniors (me) and really any age.[/QUOTE]

it's simple. because the majority of people, especially here, are unwilling to call out the bullshit of their own side. this bill is the perfect opportunity to do so - there's arguably next to nothing good abput it. people choose side-ism bullshit over their own integrity and stance on issues. you think giving this shit a pass adds to your or anyone's credibility? ugh, 'people gonna people' aren't they?

call the bullshit out, left or right, trump or biden and turn around and give credit where credit is due, period. like i said, it's not hard, unless you're a *ucking child and you're just in it all for the lulz, which i'm beginning to think op is. damn shame.

Taco Trump and Elon pissing on each other.

Pass the popcorn.

Even MTG is now against the Big Beautiful Bill. :eek:

I'm not sure what the left is celebrating here. Sure it probably gets them wet in the pants to see republicans in-fighting, but at the same time it blows a hole in their entire campaign.

"We're living under an oligarchy..."
"Musk owns Trump..."
"Trump is a cult leader..."
"Nobody on the right ever criticizes Trump..."

Unless this is all one big put on, none of those arguments are valid anymore. Trump is acting against Elon's wishes and prominent republicans are criticizing his bill.

You never know what any of their real intentions are, after all you can never trust a politician, but this type of in-fighting is the sign of a healthy party actually. There *should* be room for disagreement on certain things.

Unlike the left which actually *does* operate like a cult and will exile you over the first sign of disobedience. Which is why no one was allowed to talk about Brandon's health.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15011793]I'm not sure what the left is celebrating here. Sure it probably gets them wet in the pants to see republicans in-fighting, but at the same time it blows a hole in their entire campaign.

"We're living under an oligarchy..."
"Musk owns Trump..."
"Trump is a cult leader..."
"Nobody on the right ever criticizes Trump..."

Unless this is all one big put on, none of those arguments are valid anymore. Trump is acting against Elon's wishes and prominent republicans are criticizing his bill.

You never know what any of their real intentions are, after all you can never trust a politician, but this type of in-fighting is the sign of a healthy party actually. There *should* be room for disagreement on certain things.

Unlike the left which actually *does* operate like a cult and will exile you over the first sign of disobedience. Which is why no one was allowed to talk about Brandon's health.[/QUOTE]

So what do YOU think about this bill?