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It's an incontrovertible fact that the late 90s was the worst era for NBA talent since the merger.
Post expansion, pre globalisation.
[QUOTE=AussieSteve;15013653]It's an incontrovertible fact that the late 90s was the worst era for NBA talent since the merger.
Post expansion, pre globalisation.[/QUOTE]
Stick to Cricket Mate!
or
Ozzy rules football.
fk globalization. single entity that destroyed NBA forever.
That doesnt mean its not weak.
Those teams could be shit
Nick Wright take 30 minutes to answer any question.
We're still discussing that weak watered down era :oldlol:
[QUOTE=gengiskhan;15013668]Stick to Cricket Mate!
or
Ozzy rules football.
fk globalization. single entity that destroyed NBA forever.[/QUOTE]
I'm just saying that there were a lot of guys getting court time in 1996 that wouldn't have in 1988, because there were 6 more teams, but no increase in talent pool. It's common sense.
There were 6 guys who would have been a second option in 1988, who were now first. 12 guys who were the third option who were now 2nd. Lots of guys starting, who would have been coming off the bench.
In the 2000s, the talent pool increased, so the league has gotten stronger since then
[QUOTE=AussieSteve;15013877]I'm just saying that there were a lot of guys getting court time in 1996 that wouldn't have in 1988, because there were 6 more teams, but no increase in talent pool. It's common sense.
There were 6 guys who would have been a second option in 1988, who were now first. 12 guys who were the third option who were now 2nd. Lots of guys starting, who would have been coming off the bench.
In the 2000s, the talent pool increased, so the league has gotten stronger since then[/QUOTE]
The new talent pool is worse than the old one because Americans are much worse at basketball
Shaq, MJ, and Robinson have been replaced by Ant and Ja.. This massive decline in the best source of players and the majority of the NBA (Americans) is why today's NBA player is far worse than previous eras
[QUOTE=AussieSteve;15013877]I'm just saying that there were a lot of guys getting court time in 1996 that wouldn't have in 1988, because there were 6 more teams, but no increase in talent pool. It's common sense.
There were 6 guys who would have been a second option in 1988, who were now first. 12 guys who were the third option who were now 2nd. Lots of guys starting, who would have been coming off the bench.
In the 2000s, the talent pool increased, so the league has gotten stronger since then[/QUOTE]
The new talent pool is worse than the old one because Americans are much worse at basketball
Shaq, MJ, and Robinson have been replaced by Ant and Ja.. This massive decline in the best source of players and the majority of the NBA (Americans) is why today's NBA player is far worse than previous eras ..
Today's spaced-out hands-off beginner format also produces weaker players, regardless of where they're from, aka Jokic < Hakeem... Embiid < Ewing, etc
[QUOTE=AussieSteve;15013877]I'm just saying that there were a lot of guys getting court time in 1996 that wouldn't have in 1988, because there were 6 more teams, but no increase in talent pool. It's common sense.
There were 6 guys who would have been a second option in 1988, who were now first. 12 guys who were the third option who were now 2nd. Lots of guys starting, who would have been coming off the bench.
In the 2000s, the talent pool increased, so the league has gotten stronger since then[/QUOTE]
There's only so many minutes to be played. Stockpiling All Star talent on 3 teams where only a few of them get to play meaningful minutes doesn't make the league better. At some point, even the team doesn't get better. What's the use of having Terrell Brandon sitting on the bench watching Mark Price? Cleveland wasn't better for having an All Star sitting on the bench just like the 49'ers weren't better because Steve Young was on the sidelines watching Joe Montana. These guys needed to play. The 80's had guys like Kevin Johnson and Drazen Petrovic coming off the bench who were allowed to flourish when given the opportunity to play big minutes.
The expansion Hornets got Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson. You'd rather them rot on the bench watching Brad Daugherty for 5 years just so we can say Cleveland was "loaded"? What's the point if they're not playing or barely used? Or splitting time with an All Star center?
Was Detroit worse for letting Rick Mahorn go? He took his physical presence to Philadelphia and made them a little more solid. Was Chicago worse for letting BJ Armstrong go? They won 72 games the next season.
The expansion Magic were in the Finals within 6 years. The NBA in the 90's had plenty of talent to justify adding new teams.
[QUOTE=Da_Realist;15014108]There's only so many minutes to be played. Stockpiling All Star talent on 3 teams where only a few of them get to play meaningful minutes doesn't make the league better. At some point, even the team doesn't get better. What's the use of having Terrell Brandon sitting on the bench watching Mark Price? Cleveland wasn't better for having an All Star sitting on the bench just like the 49'ers weren't better because Steve Young was on the sidelines watching Joe Montana. These guys needed to play. The 80's had guys like Kevin Johnson and Drazen Petrovic coming off the bench who were allowed to flourish when given the opportunity to play big minutes.
The expansion Hornets got Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson. You'd rather them rot on the bench watching Brad Daugherty for 5 years just so we can say Cleveland was "loaded"? What's the point if they're not playing or barely used? Or splitting time with an All Star center?
Was Detroit worse for letting Rick Mahorn go? He took his physical presence to Philadelphia and made them a little more solid. Was Chicago worse for letting BJ Armstrong go? They won 72 games the next season.
The expansion Magic were in the Finals within 6 years. The NBA in the 90's had plenty of talent to justify adding new teams.[/QUOTE]
I feel like you're putting words in my mouth.
Im not saying the best players were worse because of expansion. I'm not saying that there weren't still great teams.
I'm saying that, on average, every roster was worse top to bottom than it was pre expansion and post globalisation. It's not a controversial statement. There were 25% more roster spots and no increased talent pool to fill them until globalization gained momentum. So, obviously, they were filled with people who otherwise wouldn't have made the league.
[QUOTE=AussieSteve;15013877]I'm just saying that there were a lot of guys getting court time in 1996 that wouldn't have in 1988, because there were 6 more teams, but no increase in talent pool. It's common sense.
There were 6 guys who would have been a second option in 1988, who were now first. 12 guys who were the third option who were now 2nd. Lots of guys starting, who would have been coming off the bench.
In the 2000s, the talent pool increased, so the league has gotten stronger since then[/QUOTE]
the way things are going......
WTC25 will be won by Proteas!
they only trail by 69 runs down only 2 wickets.
Starc might get early wicket tomorrow. Cummins looks cooked. Hazelwood is threatening enough and might get another.
Losing WTC Finals to Safaris aint looking good for aussies for next 5 yrs.
Starc is 35 now. will retire soon. Steve Smith will retire too. Cummins will retire soon too.
Ozzies aint competing for WTC until 2031 looks like.
[QUOTE=AussieSteve;15013877]I'm just saying that there were a lot of guys getting court time in 1996 that wouldn't have in 1988, because there were 6 more teams, but no increase in talent pool. It's common sense.
There were 6 guys who would have been a second option in 1988, who were now first. 12 guys who were the third option who were now 2nd. Lots of guys starting, who would have been coming off the bench.
In the 2000s, the talent pool increased, so the league has gotten stronger since then[/QUOTE]
the way things are going......
WTC25 will be won by Proteas!
they only trail by 69 runs down only 2 wickets.
Starc might get early wicket tomorrow. Cummins looks cooked. Hazelwood is threatening enough and might get another.
Losing WTC Finals to Safaris aint looking good for aussies for next 5 yrs.
Starc is 35 now. will retire soon. Steve Smith will retire too. Cummins will retire soon too.
Ozzies aint competing for WTC until 2031 looks like.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15013706]That doesnt mean its not weak.
Those teams could be shit[/QUOTE]
Weakest NBA era ever
Gengkid flailing and boomer double posting
[QUOTE=gengiskhan;15014283]the way things are going......
WTC25 will be won by Proteas!
they only trail by 69 runs down only 2 wickets.
Starc might get early wicket tomorrow. Cummins looks cooked. Hazelwood is threatening enough and might get another.
Losing WTC Finals to Safaris aint looking good for aussies for next 5 yrs.
Starc is 35 now. will retire soon. Steve Smith will retire too. Cummins will retire soon too.
Ozzies aint competing for WTC until 2031 looks like.[/QUOTE]
Smith isn't retiring any time soon. He'll pass Sachin when it's all said and done.