Re: Would you trade Jokić today for the entire 06 nuggets at 06 cap numbers?
Of course it's a huge shift in value. Camby was 32 in '06 and was a DPOY winner the following year and then #2 the next.
He would be like the 175th highest paid player in the league.
Come on now, don't be a dumbass
Re: Would you trade Jokić today for the entire 06 nuggets at 06 cap numbers?
[QUOTE=Carbine;15019170]Of course it's a huge shift in value. Camby was 32 in '06 and was a DPOY winner the following year and then #2 the next.
He would be like the 175th highest paid player in the league.
Come on now, don't be a dumbass[/QUOTE]
Players with limited offense arent the commodity today they were in those days. Camby wasnt terrible offensively but he wasnt a weapon either. I think a lot of teams would take a good three point shooter over Camby if given the choice in today's game.
Jonas Valanciunus makes 10 million today. Rob Williams III makes 13M. You think Camby would be making 25+? I dont.
Re: Would you trade Jokić today for the entire 06 nuggets at 06 cap numbers?
As a reasonably healthy Prime free agent? He is not signing somewhere for $10 million.
Re: Would you trade Jokić today for the entire 06 nuggets at 06 cap numbers?
Dude, Claxton from the Nets is on a 25 million per year contract.
Camby is better than Claxton.
Why even mention Jonan V? He is an awful defensive big man. It's just an awful point to make by comparing them.
Re: Would you trade Jokić today for the entire 06 nuggets at 06 cap numbers?
[QUOTE=Carbine;15019203]Dude, Claxton from the Nets is on a 25 million per year contract.
Camby is better than Claxton.
Why even mention Jonan V? He is an awful defensive big man. It's just an awful point to make by comparing them.[/QUOTE]
Poeltl just got 104 million. I think Camby for 9 million is a deal.
Re: Would you trade Jokić today for the entire 06 nuggets at 06 cap numbers?
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;15019105]Wouldn’t keep prime Rashard Lewis on a contract that would range from 8 to 21 million? At the time it was considered a laughable overpay but a 1610 guy who can shoot like that in this league?
He’d get targeted and lit up cs some matchups, but at those prices you kinda have to keep him around no?[/QUOTE]
Was thinking about it. Not sure. I don't think he'd be that needed and hurt OKCs defense on bigger minutes.
[QUOTE=Carbine;15019122]Even if you hate Carmelo, the fact he could sign an extension as a severely low rate and the fact he was still super young in '06.... His trade value would be immense around the league. The Bucks would likely take him straight up for Giannis.[/QUOTE]
Well, salaries wouldn't match. So you'd have to start throwing in modern players to match. In the end you gut part of your team to get a modern superstar, which you already had.
Re: Would you trade Jokić today for the entire 06 nuggets at 06 cap numbers?
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;15019278]Poeltl just got 104 million. I think Camby for 9 million is a deal.[/QUOTE]
The question isnt what a bad team is willing to pay Nic Claxton or Jakob Poeltl. A lot of teams give out a lot of shitty contracts.
The question is what *I* see as good hypothetical value for a player who has no track record playing in this era.
I said Camby for nine million is pretty nice. I just added Im not sure it's some seismic shift in what he'd get paid today, considering it's impossible to know where he would stack up today. His patented free throw line jumper isnt as meaningful today. Talent at the center position in general is higher now than it was in 06.
Toody's a four time DPOY and look how people clown him. Theres people who dont think Jokic is an elite center all time because he cant run around the perimeter the way past centers never had to. Camby today is not the same impact as Camby in 06.
You guys acting like Marcus Camby making 10 mil today would be some kind of franchise fate-altering gift from God is nutty.
Re: Would you trade Jokić today for the entire 06 nuggets at 06 cap numbers?
It would be a franchise altering gift from God for the lakers…Knicks….Warriors. Quite a few teams prone to let guys like Gobert look like Moses Malone.
Camby at 9 million probably makes last years lakers legit.
Not that it was the original issue. He’d be one of 5ish useful players for virtually no money.
Andre/Melo/Kmart/Camby/Nene all on impossible value added to a team that can already play modern ball that could flip Melo for any number of star options?
The depth would be insane and you could make the top end Giannis or any number of modern stars at a moments notice.
Young cost controlled Melo would be an almost unprecedented asset to move.