Schumer forces name change for 'big, beautiful bill' moments before it passes

Imagine taking economic advice from a self proclaimed broke adult. :oldlol:

Just 2 months ago you all swore to the heavens that we were headed for a deep recession and that the stock market would never recover. None of you know what you're talking about. You're all just led by your emotions. Show some humility and be quiet for once.

If you guys knew what was best for the economy you wouldn't be so angry and miserable from having no money.

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15020076]I'd rather be hungry than have the government feed me[/QUOTE]

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You’re fat

[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;15020057]The poor doesnt have money to redistribute. How many tacos have you sold so far where your profits went to elon musk?[/QUOTE]

Suck my enchilada, chinito

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15020076]I'll say this right off the bat.... f*ck SNAP, I don't believe in Food Stamps. I'd rather be hungry than have the government feed me, so I support cuts to that. Where is your pride America?



[B]For years I once qualified for SNAP and never took advantage of it[/B] like others did... Seriously, where is your pride? 42 million people? That number should be closer to 30 million... learn how to fast.



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if you [B]really[/B] needed it, you would have taken it.

yes, there are people that take advantage of it, don't need it, can do without it, etc.

but the people that indeed [B]need[/B] it shouldn't suffer or be inconvenienced because of those bad apples. people with health issues and disabilities go through enough trouble, stres and frustration in their lives, a lot more than you or i can even imagine. i witness it first hand, everyday.

cutting that shit out from under them is just straight up *ucking wrong. wanna reform? then reform. but don't cut it out on a whim just to please your donors with their tax breaks.

i don't get how anyone (that's aware enough, which is most of you here are) can go to bat for this bill. it's an absolute pile of dog shit.

This will increase our debt by much more than 3 Trillion

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;15020147]This will increase our debt by much more than 3 Trillion[/QUOTE]

5.5 trillion, by the time it's all said and done. and by then, the beneficial parts of the bill such as no tax on tips and overtime pay will have sunsetted while the tax cuts remain permanent. all aboard the gravy train.

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yes, there are people that take advantage of it, don't need it, can do without it, etc.
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Food Stamps should be for unemployed, homeless, living in the ghetto type folks.

Not middle class citizens.... and many middle class folks are receiving food stamps.


I just feel like you should go full "Cinderella Man" before accepting food stamps.

also food stamps creates a mindset of government dependence.




Not defending the bill, especially if it's adding to the National debt.... just disagree with Food stamps

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15020076]I'll say this right off the bat.... f*ck SNAP, I don't believe in Food Stamps. I'd rather be hungry than have the government feed me, so I support cuts to that. Where is your pride America?



For years I once qualified for SNAP and never took advantage of it like others did... Seriously, where is your pride? 42 million people? That number should be closer to 30 million... learn how to fast. [/QUOTE]
I think this is the most ignorant take I've read on here in a long time, not surprising considering the source, but still. Can't afford to eat or feed your children, just fast bro :lol

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15020179]I think this is the most ignorant take I've read on here in a long time, not surprising considering the source, but still. Can't afford to eat or feed your children, just fast bro :lol[/QUOTE]

I'm not advocating to scrap food stamps all together... I'm just saying it should be a little bit harder to qualify for Food Stamps than it is now.

You get a $500 child tax credit to help with some of that burden if you have kids. You have 2 kids? There's an extra $1000 for the year.


I'm sorry but Food Stamps should not be for average middle class Americans and that's what I've encountered in the past.

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15020178]Food Stamps should be for unemployed, homeless, living in the ghetto type folks.

Not middle class citizens.... and many middle class folks are receiving food stamps.


I just feel like you should go full "Cinderella Man" before accepting food stamps.

also food stamps creates a mindset of government dependence.




Not defending the bill, especially if it's adding to the National debt.... just disagree with Food stamps[/QUOTE]
The problem is you’re only looking at this from one perspective. I’ll raise you that someone with a full time job should be able to afford at least a shitty apartment, not live in a tent on the side of the road. I do agree food stamps is a shitty bandaid fix, what we really need to do is heavily price control inelastic goods and services: housing, medicine and food… at least at a very baseline. Privatize/ tariff/ what-have-you luxury goods all you want- capitalism, but in a society where we can support this kind of wealth there is no reason we can’t make sure the average working household can’t live a respectable life with access to the necessities and are able to retire with dignity. The problem is we keep trying to subsidize with govt programs, what we need to do instead is regulate labor rights and limit greedy corporate price gouging necessities.

obviously this bill sucks for a lot of reasons, especially the allocation of funds for critical programs like medicaid to other not so critical areas. 150 billion budget for ice. their current budget is 10 billion. the marines budget is 50 billion. neither federal law enforcement agency has a budget that touches 150 billion. that's absolutely insane and i gurantee you that it will be given out in mass contracts for detention centers to be built and operated by donnie's donors. that sh1t is so fcking corrupt to the max level. not to mention the police state concerns.

[QUOTE]$45 billion for building new immigration detention centers[/QUOTE]

immigration is an absolute joke in this country. the conservatives have used it as the boogeyman for decades to scare their vote base into voting against liberal policy immigration laws, but they themselves are using it for nefarious reasons including cheap labor, syphoning money through building expensive detention centers and overcharging for immigration transport.

only one other country has a bigger military/defense budget than ice's current budget, and that's china.

Trumpers are saying this is not ending Medicare but moving them to employment based health care coverage.

So the 80-year-old dementia patient living in a nursing home must now get a job?

I'm sure he could fit right in working as a fellow clerk in Chewing's jewelry store,

[QUOTE=highwhey;15020218]obviously this bill sucks for a lot of reasons, especially the allocation of funds for critical programs like medicaid to other not so critical areas. 150 billion budget for ice. their current budget is 10 billion. the marines budget is 50 billion. neither federal law enforcement agency has a budget that touches 150 billion. that's absolutely insane and i gurantee you that it will be given out in mass contracts for detention centers to be built and operated by donnie's donors. that sh1t is so fcking corrupt to the max level. not to mention the police state concerns.



immigration is an absolute joke in this country. the conservatives have used it as the boogeyman for decades to scare their vote base into voting against liberal policy immigration laws, but they themselves are using it for nefarious reasons including cheap labor, syphoning money through building expensive detention centers and overcharging for immigration transport.

only one other country has a bigger military/defense budget than ice's current budget, and that's china.[/QUOTE]

I never want to hear about fiscal responsibility or DOGE from any Republican again. Anything they saved went into massive historic taxcuts and insane increases in things like ICE funding. What the hell does ICE need 150+ billion dollars per year for? More than total military budget of every country other than US and China.. Our military budget is also going up past a trillion.

Medicare is going to be impacted too. "The legislation allows more medications to be exempt from Medicare’s price negotiation program, which was created to lower the government’s drug spending. Now, manufacturers will be able to keep those prices higher."

Adding 3.3 trillion to the debt. Whatever happened to using "fiscal responsibility" as a counter-argument and goal?

Mostly crickets in this thread from MAGA on this board after this bill passed (a couple of personal attacks but no defense of the bill). Where you at, MAGA??

Did Trump cut deals for you too to fall in line like Republicans in both houses?

[QUOTE]Representative Ralph Norman, Republican of South Carolina, who staged an open revolt against the bill but ultimately fell in line with his colleagues to support the legislation, refused to detail what he was offered in return for his support.
“It’ll be sometime next week,” he said about when the public would learn the details of what deals were struck to coax him and others into backing the multitrillion-dollar package.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=bladefd;15020256]I never want to hear about fiscal responsibility or DOGE from any Republican again. Anything they saved went into massive historic taxcuts and insane increases in things like ICE funding. What the hell does ICE need 150+ billion dollars per year for? More than total military budget of every country other than US and China.. Our military budget is also going up past a trillion.

Medicare is going to be impacted too. "The legislation allows more medications to be exempt from Medicare’s price negotiation program, which was created to lower the government’s drug spending. Now, manufacturers will be able to keep those prices higher."

Adding 3.3 trillion to the debt. Whatever happened to using "fiscal responsibility" as a counter-argument and goal?

Mostly crickets in this thread from MAGA on this board after this bill passed (a couple of personal attacks but no defense of the bill). Where you at, MAGA??

Did Trump cut deals for you too to fall in line like Republicans in both houses?[/QUOTE]

Do you still live with your parents and struggle to cover the 100 dollar internet bill even while you pay zero rent?