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[QUOTE=90sgoat;15019988]Ayton is a rim runner.[/QUOTE]
I was gonna say... when I watched him play in Pheonix when they made Finals, he was definitely dipping into the paint all the time off the PnR. I think Xiao is confusing lob threat with roll man. Hes not daniel gafford. Hes much more skilled.
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15019955]On paper it's a lot of talent but I dont believe you can trust the motor of Wiggins or Ayton. Didnt Wiggins randomly take like four months off a couple years ago? And Ayton is known to sulk. They would also have terrible depth in this scenario.
I dont see this as a recipe for a championship contender.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=tpols;15019990]I was gonna say... when I watched him play in Pheonix when they made Finals, he was definitely dipping into the paint all the time off the PnR. I think Xiao is confusing lob threat with roll man. Hes not daniel gafford. Hes much more skilled.[/QUOTE]
Gafford isnt a bum though
Looks like wiggins is highly sought for the timely contributions he made during the 2022 finals.
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[QUOTE=tpols;15019910]If theyre all healthy no chance. Youre wildly off. Lakers right now are sitting at #4 spot in the title odds and thats without Wiggins. Theyre ahead of the wolves as well.[/QUOTE]
Title odds don't actually mean anything though. Ayton does not move the needle at all for the Lakers in the playoffs, although he will help during the regular season.
Not sure that adding Wiggins to this current team does much either...
The Lakers have talent but so much of it is redundant. They simply aren't going to be a well built team with Luka/Lebron/Reaves unless the rest of the roster is very specifically filled out.
[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15020002]Title odds don't actually mean anything though. Ayton does not move the needle at all for the Lakers in the playoffs, although he will help during the regular season.
Not sure that adding Wiggins to this current team does much either...
The Lakers have talent but so much of it is redundant. They simply aren't going to be a well built team with Luka/Lebron/Reaves unless the rest of the roster is very specifically filled out.[/QUOTE]
Dude I suggest you check DeAndre Aytons playoff numbers. He has great production, super efficient with always double double. Hes a MASSIVE upgrade for Lakers over Jackson Hayes or whoever.
If anything you have it backwards. His numbers were better in the playoffs than they were in the regular season. I checked the numbers and didnt believe them myself.
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15019955]On paper it's a lot of talent but I dont believe you can trust the motor of Wiggins or Ayton. Didnt Wiggins randomly take like four months off a couple years ago? And Ayton is known to sulk. They would also have terrible depth in this scenario.
I dont see this as a recipe for a championship contender.[/QUOTE]
Empty stats.
[QUOTE=90sgoat;15019989]Good call to trade Rui, got exposed against T-Wolves.
[B]I don't know why Lebron is so adamant to trade Knecht, except that he's white.[/B] Knecht is going to be a really solid player.[/QUOTE]
He's played with Reeves for several years, does he seem adamant to trade him? You think he didn't sign off off on Luka? GTFO with this bullshit, man.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15019818]With Luka & Reaves already having defensive limitations it makes sense as to why they are trying to get rid of Dalton. You lose some size getting rid of Rui, but it explains the push they are making for Horford.
Maybe LA is waiting to see if they can grab Horford before they make the deal.[/QUOTE]
Horford? Is LA trying to put together a team of 40-year-olds?
And LOL at the autistic idiot melting down in this thread. :lol
Axe throws bitch fits night and day
The reason is quite simple
He has a problem stemming from
His lofty estrogen level
So true.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15020017]Empty stats.[/QUOTE]
Not at all.
I watched him dismantle the Mavs defense and score at will in the playoffs until Luka took over.
He's a very talented scorer from the low block to midrange.
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15019955]On paper it's a lot of talent but I dont believe you can trust the motor of Wiggins or Ayton. Didnt Wiggins randomly take like four months off a couple years ago? And Ayton is known to sulk. They would also have terrible depth in this scenario.
I dont see this as a recipe for a championship contender.[/QUOTE]
Wiggins had personal issues(dad died). He was solid last year. Lakers shouldn’t give up a 1st however. Rui is pretty good and knecht is enough of an asset
Curry won a chip with him
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15020086]Curry won a chip with him[/QUOTE]
weak year
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15020087]weak year[/QUOTE]
Cope
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15020087]weak year[/QUOTE]
2020 was a joke, and 2023 was a weak year. The 2022 chip was legit.
Cope.
[QUOTE=Full Court;15020102]2020 was a joke, and 2023 was a weak year. The 2022 chip was legit.
Cope.[/QUOTE]What’s wrong with 2020? Everyone competed under the same conditions, no? So it was fair competition. If anything the Lakers got screwed out of hca.