Did Shohei Ohtani just have the greatest individual game in sports history?

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038070]Barry the only player in mlb history with 400hr 400sb before “roids”. Tell me more[/QUOTE]

Bonds never had a season where he stole 59 bases.

Bonds never even pitched before while Ohtani finished top 4 in Cy Young voting.

Bonds isn't even the best Giants player ever. Mays was better.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038068]Very rare. As far as hitting and pitching at that level, it hasn't been seen since Babe Ruth.

Ohtani also stole 59 bases last season, first player ever with 50 home runs and 50 stolen bases in a season.[/QUOTE]

And players have to do both or can they sub someone else in for the other task?

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15038075]And players have to do both or can they sub someone else in for the other task?[/QUOTE]

Pitchers are usually terrible hitters. Most pitchers don't even bat, when they are pitching for the day they are usually subbed out for another hitter.

If you pitched for the National League, your pitcher was forced to hit during the game, but they changed that rule a couple of years ago so they no longer have to bat.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038077]Pitchers are usually terrible hitters. Most pitchers don't even bat, when they are pitching for the day they are usually subbed out for another hitter.

If you pitched for the National League, your pitcher was forced to hit during the game, but they changed that rule a couple of years ago so they no longer have to bat.[/QUOTE]


Interesting, thanks

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038073]Bonds never had a season where he stole 59 bases.

Bonds never even pitched before while Ohtani finished top 4 in Cy Young voting.

Bonds isn't even the best Giants player ever. Mays was better.[/QUOTE]

No. Mays best giant ever. Bonds best player ever.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038085]No. Mays best giant ever. Bonds best player ever.[/QUOTE]

Relative to their era Babe Ruth will never be topped. He was hitting more home runs than some teams and also had a season where he was the best pitcher in the American League.

Not even MJ was that dominant. Ruth was by far the best athlete of the 20th century.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15038063]So, I dont know shit about baseball, how common is it for a player to throw and bat? Or be the best at both, which he seems to be?[/QUOTE]

Never has happened like this before.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038093]Relative to their era Babe Ruth will never be topped. He was hitting more home runs than some teams and also had a season where he was the best pitcher in the American League.

Not even MJ was that dominant. Ruth was by far the best athlete of the 20th century.[/QUOTE]

Didn’t see babe Ruth play. Didn’t see Wilt play. Barry goat. MJ goat. :confusedshrug:

[U]1920[/U]
Ruth - 54 home runs
#2 guy - 19 home runs

Ruth did that with beer.

Bonds needed steroids to surpass him in home runs and did it in an era where home runs came by easier.

Ruth was so far ahead of his time it's ridiculous. The only facet of the game where you could give Ruth a negative is his fielding. He wasn't bad, but clearly not on the level of Mays or Bonds in their primes. Mays is probably the best player ever if we are only taking hitting/fielding into account.

The only problem is Ruth is by far the best hitter ever and at one point was one of the best pitchers in the league. Still holds the record for most innings pitched in a world series game with 14 innings, a game where he only gave up 1 run.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038050]Roids[/QUOTE]

Was literally the best player in baseball before roids lol.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038103][U]1920[/U]
Ruth - 54 home runs
#2 guy - 19 home runs

Ruth did that with beer.

Bonds needed steroids to surpass him in home runs and did it in an era where home runs came by easier.

Ruth was so far ahead of his time it's ridiculous. The only facet of the game where you could give Ruth a negative is his fielding. He wasn't bad, but clearly not on the level of Mays or Bonds in their primes. Mays is probably the best player ever if we are only taking hitting/fielding into account.

The only problem is Ruth is by far the best hitter ever and at one point was one of the best pitchers in the league. Still holds the record for most innings pitched in a world series game with 14 innings, a game where he only gave up 1 run.[/QUOTE]

What happened to your “we done with the 90’s” because they were all bums arguments lol

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038104]Was literally the best player in baseball before roids lol.[/QUOTE]

Prime Bonds was only averaging 36 home runs a year before he took steroids. Then later on had a 5 year stretch in his mid-late 30's where he averaged 50 home runs with steroids.

Wouldn't even be in the convo with Ruth or Mays if he played clean.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15038105]What happened to your “we done with the 90’s” because they were all bums arguments lol[/QUOTE]

We are done with the 90's because Bonds was apart of it.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038108]Prime Bonds was only averaging 36 home runs a year before he took steroids. Then later on had a 5 year stretch in his mid-late 30's where he averaged 50 home runs with steroids.

Wouldn't even be in the convo with Ruth or Mays if he played clean.[/QUOTE]

You never played baseball and don’t understand the game

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038109]We are done with the 90's because Bonds was apart of it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you discredit MJ and wilt for supposedly playing with firemen and plumbers or whatever but then you use the dominance over their peers argument to say Ruth is the goat.

You have no intellectual consistency and it’s pretty clownish. You don’t have consistent trains of thought you basically just pick a person who you like randomly and backtrack doing logical gymnastics to justify it.