Chauncey Billiups and Rozier got arrested by the FBI on gambling charges.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15038956]If that is the case this is a nothing burger, for a second I for sure thought Billups was gambling on games Pete Rose style.[/QUOTE]

Sorta depends.

If this stuff all stems from before he was head coach of the Blazers, I agree the "illegal poker" really isnt a big deal at all. To me anyway.

If he was doing this after he became head coach, regardless of how innocuous the crime may be, it shows an absurd lack of judgement and priorities to risk this kind of embarrassment to play poker.

So IMO the timeline/recency of it is the biggest question.

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Jordan and alot of you old timers would be absolutely cooked today. :lol Society is so much stricter now.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15038958]Sorta depends.

If this stuff all stems from before he was head coach of the Blazers, I agree the "illegal poker" really isnt a big deal at all. To me anyway.

If he was doing this after he became head coach, regardless of how innocuous the crime may be, it shows an absurd lack of judgement and priorities to risk this kind of embarrassment to play poker.

So IMO the timeline/recency of it is the biggest question.[/QUOTE]


I don’t know. What group of rich and powerful people with jobs in the public eye would you say don’t play cards or gamble on activities with friends?

I’m sure those activities go far higher than nba coaches

[QUOTE=tpols;15038961]Jordan and alot of you old timers would be absolutely cooked today. :lol Society is so much stricter now.[/QUOTE]

I don’t know if society is stricter or we just have people in power looking for media headlines. 30 or 40 years ago a lot of people acted like gambling was morally wrong. Like you were a bad person. We couldn’t bet money on anything around my grandma. They used to talk about somebody’s gambling husband, like he was a drug addict. He was the shame of the family.

There were church groups opposed to state lotteries specifically benefiting education.

Society doesn’t mind gambling anymore.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;15038955]Abc is saying it’s a mafia related poker game and rozier is a separate but related case.

Theyre really out here breaking up poker games and calling it news.[/QUOTE]

Word. Waste of resources and man power.

The FBI needs to be abolished.

But just to argue. Why do people let degenerate gamblers off the hook and no one else?

If you’re a drug addict, alcoholic, or womanizer you usually are called out for being a POS and ridiculed a little bit. Especially if arrested.

But gamblers face no heat.

Dudes like Barkley and Dana White can go on TV and talk about gambling away 100 million dollars like it’s nothing.

Lmao.

[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;15038975]The FBI needs to be abolished.

But just to argue. Why do people let degenerate gamblers off the hook and no one else?

If you’re a drug addict, alcoholic, or womanizer you usually are called out for being a POS and ridiculed a little bit. Especially if arrested.

But gamblers face no heat.

Dudes like Barkley and Dana White can go on TV and talk about gambling away 100 million dollars like it’s nothing.

Lmao.[/QUOTE]

They get criticized about as much as folks who smoke cigs or drink alcohol. What more needs to be done?

Billups playing poker with the wrong people.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;15038967]I don’t know if society is stricter or we just have people in power looking for media headlines. 30 or 40 years ago a lot of people acted like gambling was morally wrong. Like you were a bad person. We couldn’t bet money on anything around my grandma. They used to talk about somebody’s gambling husband, like he was a drug addict. He was the shame of the family.

There were church groups opposed to state lotteries specifically benefiting education.

Society doesn’t mind gambling anymore.[/QUOTE]

Uncontrolled gambling can wreck a family quicker than any drug can. Some guys lose their house or whole worth in a week and jump off a roof top. I believe gambling addiction has #1 suicide rate.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038979]They get criticized about as much as folks who smoke cigs or drink alcohol. What more needs to be done?[/QUOTE]

Naw people like Barkley and Dana White can openly admit on TV to gambling away hundreds of millions of dollars like it’s nothing then tell everyone that they don’t care and will never stop.

When Charlie Sheen says the same crazy stuff about drugs and prostitutes people wig out.

[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;15038985]Naw people like Barkley and Dana White can openly admit on TV to gambling away hundreds of millions of dollars like it’s nothing then tell everyone that they don’t care and will never stop.

When Charlie Sheen says the same crazy stuff about drugs and prostitutes people wig out.[/QUOTE]

No one wigs out over folks drinking alcohol, pushing/promoting it. Same deal with gambling. I’m confused.

Drug abuse and prostitution. That’s nasty business. But Sheens business. You want the moral compass adjusted to that is funny. Folks like Barkley are criticized for being “dumb”, “stupid” gambling away his bread. Not sure we need to turn the energy up louder.

[QUOTE=Wally450;15038981]Billups playing poker with the wrong people.[/QUOTE]He should exercise better judgment but at least he wasn't betting on the games he was coaching. That would have been a huge deal. Playing poker with the mob may have led to that one day but a poker game can be declared "illegal" if the host is taking a few bucks from the pot. There are people that have organized a poker night with friends in a way that the government would deem illegal and didn't even know it. I'm sure that Billups had an idea of who he was playing with and for that he was foolish but I don't like seeing what he did get lumped in with Rozier (not saying you are doing this, just speaking about general opinion). Based on what little we know right now it's different.

Tanking coming up in allegations. Maybe nba finally addresses this shit?

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038995]Tanking coming up in allegations. Maybe nba finally addresses this shit?[/QUOTE]
If the FBI is going to try and go after teams for tanking they would be going too far. Sometimes a team just sucks. If a team wins 40 games they're gonna send the owner coach and GM to prison?